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I guess someone as Microsoft just loved SimCity.

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Windows 95 had special code just to fix a bug in the original SimCity | Rock Paper Shotgun[^] Changing the OS just to get round a memory allocation bug? Sheesh ... :laugh:

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    dandy72
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    Does this fix differ from the endless number of [compatibility shims](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/planning/creating-a-custom-compatibility-fix-in-compatibility-administrator) built into Windows?

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Windows 95 had special code just to fix a bug in the original SimCity | Rock Paper Shotgun[^] Changing the OS just to get round a memory allocation bug? Sheesh ... :laugh:

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      David ONeil
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      Quote:

      ...Microsoft obsessed about this, spending a big chunk of change testing every old program they could find...

      That dates us. Being able to remember when MS tested things...

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        ...Microsoft obsessed about this, spending a big chunk of change testing every old program they could find...

        That dates us. Being able to remember when MS tested things...

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        OriginalGriff
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        They still test some things, and pretty exhaustively as well. Peoples' patience, mostly. :sigh:

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          ...Microsoft obsessed about this, spending a big chunk of change testing every old program they could find...

          That dates us. Being able to remember when MS tested things...

          Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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          OriginalGriff
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          THat also translates to "MS Developers were paid to play games at work" :-D

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            THat also translates to "MS Developers were paid to play games at work" :-D

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            David ONeil
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            And I think I heard that most who worked at that time came out with a lot of money...

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              And I think I heard that most who worked at that time came out with a lot of money...

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              OriginalGriff
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              Overtime rates? :-D

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Overtime rates? :-D

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                David ONeil
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                :laugh: Then the bean counters decided to put the money into the bank instead, and here we are with our patience being tested...

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Windows 95 had special code just to fix a bug in the original SimCity | Rock Paper Shotgun[^] Changing the OS just to get round a memory allocation bug? Sheesh ... :laugh:

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  Sim City is/was massively popular. Rule of thumb: if the user changed something and things break, the user blames that something. That is, if the user upgrades to Win95 and things break, user will blame Win95, instead of the sloppy QA that went into Sim City.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Windows 95 had special code just to fix a bug in the original SimCity | Rock Paper Shotgun[^] Changing the OS just to get round a memory allocation bug? Sheesh ... :laugh:

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    Some early posts on Raymond Chen's blog (The Old New Thing) also talk about the lengths that MS were forced to go to to get some of the cr@ppy software that people wrote for 16-bit Windows to run on Windows 95 (he was personally involved, in the sense that he tracked down what was causing problems like this and created fixes). You'd be amazed at some of the stunts they had to pull to get things to work. Compatibility was important, of course, to get Windows 95 accepted in the marketplace (just in case nobody here has mentioned that yet).

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                    • D David ONeil

                      Quote:

                      ...Microsoft obsessed about this, spending a big chunk of change testing every old program they could find...

                      That dates us. Being able to remember when MS tested things...

                      Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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                      gt2847c
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                      MS still tests things... they just outsourced it to their customers. Kinda like Seagate did with their MFM/RLL drives back in the late 80s/early 90s...

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                        MS still tests things... they just outsourced it to their customers. Kinda like Seagate did with their MFM/RLL drives back in the late 80s/early 90s...

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                        CodeZombie62
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                        And Walmart replaced its cashiers with its customers.

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                          Some early posts on Raymond Chen's blog (The Old New Thing) also talk about the lengths that MS were forced to go to to get some of the cr@ppy software that people wrote for 16-bit Windows to run on Windows 95 (he was personally involved, in the sense that he tracked down what was causing problems like this and created fixes). You'd be amazed at some of the stunts they had to pull to get things to work. Compatibility was important, of course, to get Windows 95 accepted in the marketplace (just in case nobody here has mentioned that yet).

                          Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                          davepl (plummer) talks about it too now and then (randomly). DavesGarage[^]

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                            davepl (plummer) talks about it too now and then (randomly). DavesGarage[^]

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                            Paul Sanders the other one
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                            Thanks, I'll check it out.

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