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  • M megaadam

    My new Lenovo laptop refuses to obey the power-settings. It locks the screen after 30-60 seconds. Regardless of power cord/external screen connected or not. Pretty annoying when when reading cumbersome code. I dunno if it is Microelephant's fault or Elephant-Lenovo's fault. Yes: I have upgraded drivers, yes: and barely operating, system. Yes I have Googled. A lot of wiseguys but no help. Quite many ppl with similar, yet different, issues. A colleague with the same comp has the same issue. I third colleague did have it but it disappeared after an update. Not so for us. And rather occasionally, unclear when, it does remain unlocked. Elephant! :mad:

    "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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    obermd
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    Check the BIOS for power settings.

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    • R raddevus

      This is somewhat similar to a problem I recently ranted about where my Win10 laptop with an AMD R7 (8 cores) puts 4 of them to sleep if I'm disconnected from power. Everyone thought it was because of my power settings but no matter how I setup those settings -- even setting it for high performance didn't matter. It always set the 4 (extra) cores to paused if I disconnect the power from the wall. The instant I plug cable in they become available (parked). Here's a snapshot of it[^].

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      obermd
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      This is a BIOS setting. I've seen it on other multi-core laptops as well.

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        This is a BIOS setting. I've seen it on other multi-core laptops as well.

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        raddevus
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        It isn't actually a BIOS setting either. I went down thru the bios and actually turned some options off. Unfortunately, it really isn't a bios setting.

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        • R rnbergren

          and this is why I wrote my stayawake routine that runs in the background. Because sometimes I am just staring at my code trying to figure out what the heck I Was thinking and it takes time because who the heck knows what I was thinking when I coded that thing like 3 days/years ago.

          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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          Matt Bond
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          I use the Caffeine program to do this. Works quite well.

          Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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          • M Matt Bond

            I use the Caffeine program to do this. Works quite well.

            Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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            RickZeeland
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            I use Caffeine too, works perfectly.

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            • M megaadam

              My new Lenovo laptop refuses to obey the power-settings. It locks the screen after 30-60 seconds. Regardless of power cord/external screen connected or not. Pretty annoying when when reading cumbersome code. I dunno if it is Microelephant's fault or Elephant-Lenovo's fault. Yes: I have upgraded drivers, yes: and barely operating, system. Yes I have Googled. A lot of wiseguys but no help. Quite many ppl with similar, yet different, issues. A colleague with the same comp has the same issue. I third colleague did have it but it disappeared after an update. Not so for us. And rather occasionally, unclear when, it does remain unlocked. Elephant! :mad:

              "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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              Joan M
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              Microsoft Powertoys[^] have a mini tool that handles this. My thinkpad doesn't suffer from this though. Maybe they will solve this in an upcoming update. Hope this helps.

              www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                Microsoft Powertoys[^] have a mini tool that handles this. My thinkpad doesn't suffer from this though. Maybe they will solve this in an upcoming update. Hope this helps.

                www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                megaadam
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                Thanks. Although must say, I feel that the idea of installing a [Microelephant] utility to circumvent flawed [Microelephant] system settings is pretty disgusting.

                "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                • R raddevus

                  It isn't actually a BIOS setting either. I went down thru the bios and actually turned some options off. Unfortunately, it really isn't a bios setting.

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                  obermd
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                  Check the performance section. I suspect there's a setting for reduced performance when running on battery.

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                  • R rnbergren

                    and this is why I wrote my stayawake routine that runs in the background. Because sometimes I am just staring at my code trying to figure out what the heck I Was thinking and it takes time because who the heck knows what I was thinking when I coded that thing like 3 days/years ago.

                    To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                    Paul Sanders the other one
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                    Or, in my case, three minutes ago 🙄 Gonna offer that code to the OP?

                    Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                    • M megaadam

                      Thanks. Although must say, I feel that the idea of installing a [Microelephant] utility to circumvent flawed [Microelephant] system settings is pretty disgusting.

                      "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                      Paul Sanders the other one
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                      🤣🤣🐘🐘

                      Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                      • M megaadam

                        My new Lenovo laptop refuses to obey the power-settings. It locks the screen after 30-60 seconds. Regardless of power cord/external screen connected or not. Pretty annoying when when reading cumbersome code. I dunno if it is Microelephant's fault or Elephant-Lenovo's fault. Yes: I have upgraded drivers, yes: and barely operating, system. Yes I have Googled. A lot of wiseguys but no help. Quite many ppl with similar, yet different, issues. A colleague with the same comp has the same issue. I third colleague did have it but it disappeared after an update. Not so for us. And rather occasionally, unclear when, it does remain unlocked. Elephant! :mad:

                        "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                        Davyd McColl
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                        I don't know if this will apply to you, but on my older Dell XPS, there were options in the BIOS which were very similar to some power settings - and took preference. I'd go spelunking through that - especially if a colleague's issue went away after an update.

                        ------------------------------------------------ If you say that getting the money is the most important thing You will spend your life completely wasting your time You will be doing things you don't like doing In order to go on living That is, to go on doing things you don't like doing Which is stupid. - Alan Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXTZM\_uPMY

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                        • M megaadam

                          My new Lenovo laptop refuses to obey the power-settings. It locks the screen after 30-60 seconds. Regardless of power cord/external screen connected or not. Pretty annoying when when reading cumbersome code. I dunno if it is Microelephant's fault or Elephant-Lenovo's fault. Yes: I have upgraded drivers, yes: and barely operating, system. Yes I have Googled. A lot of wiseguys but no help. Quite many ppl with similar, yet different, issues. A colleague with the same comp has the same issue. I third colleague did have it but it disappeared after an update. Not so for us. And rather occasionally, unclear when, it does remain unlocked. Elephant! :mad:

                          "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                          Zvonko Keber
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                          Have you checked out powercfg? It can hel you configure as well as analyse your computers sleep behavior (the systempowerreport option for example) https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/powercfg-command-line-options Good luck

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                          • M megaadam

                            My new Lenovo laptop refuses to obey the power-settings. It locks the screen after 30-60 seconds. Regardless of power cord/external screen connected or not. Pretty annoying when when reading cumbersome code. I dunno if it is Microelephant's fault or Elephant-Lenovo's fault. Yes: I have upgraded drivers, yes: and barely operating, system. Yes I have Googled. A lot of wiseguys but no help. Quite many ppl with similar, yet different, issues. A colleague with the same comp has the same issue. I third colleague did have it but it disappeared after an update. Not so for us. And rather occasionally, unclear when, it does remain unlocked. Elephant! :mad:

                            "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                            Kate X257
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                            It's either an OEM driver thing, shipped as part of the OS installation, or a boot setting thing. If you can't find it in the boot menu, you can still switch to a DELL OEM image instead. Avoids Lenovo specific annoyances and still picks up the embedded OEM key. I figured that out when my dad bought a decently specced Lenovo for just $200.. and the thing either crashed during startup or couldn't use Wifi at all, because the Wifi OEM driver was faulty (and also impossible to remove, update or replace). Switched to the DELL OEM image and everything worked fine.

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                            • M megaadam

                              My new Lenovo laptop refuses to obey the power-settings. It locks the screen after 30-60 seconds. Regardless of power cord/external screen connected or not. Pretty annoying when when reading cumbersome code. I dunno if it is Microelephant's fault or Elephant-Lenovo's fault. Yes: I have upgraded drivers, yes: and barely operating, system. Yes I have Googled. A lot of wiseguys but no help. Quite many ppl with similar, yet different, issues. A colleague with the same comp has the same issue. I third colleague did have it but it disappeared after an update. Not so for us. And rather occasionally, unclear when, it does remain unlocked. Elephant! :mad:

                              "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                              JohnDG52
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                              Have you tried one of those USB dongles that simulates a mouse being jiggled every 15 seconds or so? Place I worked used them to save repeated 5-minute logons while the remote system got it's arse in gear.

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                              • E Edward Aymami

                                Mine makes me login again after a period of activity. I go get a cup of coffee, and when I come back I have to login again. :( Has anyone tried Lenovo support?

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                                sasadler
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                                Is your laptop a work laptop? A company I worked for did that for all of the employee's computers. Since I was one of the few that had admin rights it was easy to get around. I wrote an AutoHotKey script to move the mouse cursor location 1 pixel to the right and then move it back to the left once every 20 seconds.

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                                • R raddevus

                                  This is somewhat similar to a problem I recently ranted about where my Win10 laptop with an AMD R7 (8 cores) puts 4 of them to sleep if I'm disconnected from power. Everyone thought it was because of my power settings but no matter how I setup those settings -- even setting it for high performance didn't matter. It always set the 4 (extra) cores to paused if I disconnect the power from the wall. The instant I plug cable in they become available (parked). Here's a snapshot of it[^].

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                                  sasadler
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                                  Did you check to see if the BIOS has settings for that? I vaguely remember a BIOS on one of my machines that had an option like that.

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                                  • M megaadam

                                    Thanks. Although must say, I feel that the idea of installing a [Microelephant] utility to circumvent flawed [Microelephant] system settings is pretty disgusting.

                                    "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                                    sasadler
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                                    Yep, I feel that way after installing Open Shell on fresh installs of Windows.

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                                    • M megaadam

                                      My new Lenovo laptop refuses to obey the power-settings. It locks the screen after 30-60 seconds. Regardless of power cord/external screen connected or not. Pretty annoying when when reading cumbersome code. I dunno if it is Microelephant's fault or Elephant-Lenovo's fault. Yes: I have upgraded drivers, yes: and barely operating, system. Yes I have Googled. A lot of wiseguys but no help. Quite many ppl with similar, yet different, issues. A colleague with the same comp has the same issue. I third colleague did have it but it disappeared after an update. Not so for us. And rather occasionally, unclear when, it does remain unlocked. Elephant! :mad:

                                      "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                                      ShawnVN
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                                      Is it a corp-controlled laptop image, or a device you own? Laptop OEMs always seem to author so much garbage "value-add" configuration software, that interferes or conflicts with basic OS functionality. Who knows what it could be doing. The first thing I do with any new laptop is reformat and reinstall OS, and drivers. If I can.

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                                      • S sasadler

                                        Did you check to see if the BIOS has settings for that? I vaguely remember a BIOS on one of my machines that had an option like that.

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                                        raddevus
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                                        Yes, there was one possible BIOS setting and turning it off didn't help. Thanks

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                                        • M megaadam

                                          My new Lenovo laptop refuses to obey the power-settings. It locks the screen after 30-60 seconds. Regardless of power cord/external screen connected or not. Pretty annoying when when reading cumbersome code. I dunno if it is Microelephant's fault or Elephant-Lenovo's fault. Yes: I have upgraded drivers, yes: and barely operating, system. Yes I have Googled. A lot of wiseguys but no help. Quite many ppl with similar, yet different, issues. A colleague with the same comp has the same issue. I third colleague did have it but it disappeared after an update. Not so for us. And rather occasionally, unclear when, it does remain unlocked. Elephant! :mad:

                                          "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                                          Fama0
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                                          Must be a feature installed by default by Lenovo. Dell has the exact same thing that you can only control through their "Dell Optimizer" application. They call it "Walk Away Lock" under "Presence Detection". It would automatically lock my computer if I wasn't directly in front of it for more than 60 seconds. A quick search led me to this:

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                                          The human presence sensor is enabled by default. To disable the function: Open the Vantage app, and then click Device ➙ Smart Assist to turn on or turn off the User Presence Sensing switch. Customize the Zero Touch Login and Zero Touch Lock settings according to your preference. Restart the computer. When the logo screen is displayed, press F1 to enter the UEFI BIOS menu. Select Security ➙ Intelligent Security to customize detailed settings..

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