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    David ONeil
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    A well-presented interesting discussion of the problems with AI art as it now stands: [The End of Art: An Argument Against Image AIs - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjSxFAGP9Ss)

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      A well-presented interesting discussion of the problems with AI art as it now stands: [The End of Art: An Argument Against Image AIs - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjSxFAGP9Ss)

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      Slacker007
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      It will be interesting to see how they deal with this problem.

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        It will be interesting to see how they deal with this problem.

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        David ONeil
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        Hopefully we change your 'they' to 'us.' It is our politicians, that we need to get doing our will.

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          Hopefully we change your 'they' to 'us.' It is our politicians, that we need to get doing our will.

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          Lost User
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          David O'Neil wrote:

          It is our politicians, that we need to get doing our will.

          Good luck with that. :rolleyes:

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            David O'Neil wrote:

            It is our politicians, that we need to get doing our will.

            Good luck with that. :rolleyes:

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            David ONeil
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            Then vote them out.

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              Then vote them out.

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              Good luck with that also. I don't know how you feel about the mid-terms over there but from here it looks pretty evenly matched. We have a majority government that is not particularly popular, but the alternative would be worse.

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              "In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve."

              I have been wondering for almost 60 years what I did wrong.

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                Good luck with that also. I don't know how you feel about the mid-terms over there but from here it looks pretty evenly matched. We have a majority government that is not particularly popular, but the alternative would be worse.

                Quote:

                "In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve."

                I have been wondering for almost 60 years what I did wrong.

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                David ONeil
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                Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                I don't know how you feel...

                Depressed. They may not get voted out in my life. :sigh:

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                  A well-presented interesting discussion of the problems with AI art as it now stands: [The End of Art: An Argument Against Image AIs - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjSxFAGP9Ss)

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                  It seems to reject the idea that 8 billion can each produce a unique piece of art in isolation, but that AI can.

                  "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                    It seems to reject the idea that 8 billion can each produce a unique piece of art in isolation, but that AI can.

                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                    David ONeil
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                    Do you really want one AI to have a copyright on 8 billion artworks, especially when that AI was created from copyrighted material without compensating the original creators?

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                      Do you really want one AI to have a copyright on 8 billion artworks, especially when that AI was created from copyrighted material without compensating the original creators?

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                      AI is using others' material; I think there is still room for original art. Copyright and derivations are another matter. AI doesn't know (yet) what is fair use.

                      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                        AI is using others' material; I think there is still room for original art. Copyright and derivations are another matter. AI doesn't know (yet) what is fair use.

                        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                        David ONeil
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                        I get the feeling you didn't understand the point of the artist making that video. Oh well.

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