Not a rant, a real Windows 11 update question.... what the heck is it doing?
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
Microsoft seems to like to stick their progress bars at 99% or 100% for forever and a day, in my experience. It's probably summoning demons.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
Interesting... so it just looks like the update gets confused or whatever. Most of the support comments were absolutely useless. However, if your update stalls, fire up services.msc and restart Windows Update. Seems to unplug the blockage.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Microsoft seems to like to stick their progress bars at 99% or 100% for forever and a day, in my experience. It's probably summoning demons.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
<rant> Considering Microsoft's rigorous quality assurance, I am certain that their code causes [nasal demons](http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/N/nasal-demons.html) to appear even on ordinary computers, to say nothing of the [DeathStation 9000](http://wikibin.org/articles/deathstation-9000.html). </rant>
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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<rant> Considering Microsoft's rigorous quality assurance, I am certain that their code causes [nasal demons](http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/N/nasal-demons.html) to appear even on ordinary computers, to say nothing of the [DeathStation 9000](http://wikibin.org/articles/deathstation-9000.html). </rant>
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
I'm pretty sure that the DS9K is just a normal PC running Linux. :-D
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
Takes a long time to replace all the icons.
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
My personal suspicion is that they are spinning up a VM running a private copy of Minecraft, loaded with an 8-bit processor emulation that in turn is running a port of DOOM. An AI plays DOOM until defeated or the game ends. At that point, the update is completed. Of course, this is considered a charming Easter egg.
Software Zen:
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
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<rant> Considering Microsoft's rigorous quality assurance, I am certain that their code causes [nasal demons](http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/N/nasal-demons.html) to appear even on ordinary computers, to say nothing of the [DeathStation 9000](http://wikibin.org/articles/deathstation-9000.html). </rant>
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
Not a rant: I suggest YAAR. Yet another almost rant. Anyhow, this is superstition terrain, anyhow testing your stability and rationality to the utmost. First advice: Don't keep looking at it, go do something else. I usually find that I have a chore left or need coffee. Did it finish yet? Did you shake it a bit, stroke it with the mouse? Hit the control key a few times? I generally take updates up front, which gives me a weird sense of control. With the obvious weekly backup I feel like when I stow a small umbrella going when it's not even raining. Will surely prevent rain from happening to me! (Does most of the time, too) Cheers, Jan
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
I personally wrote some/parts of the [Windows Update Agent API](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wuapi/) but it was a while back. The ["Update Orchestrater"](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/how-windows-update-works) manages it. "Windows Update" isn't a single service, "BITS" or ["Delivery Optimization"](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/do/waas-delivery-optimization) do the download and "Update Orchestrater" (UsoSVC) does the management. I was on a team of two software engineers that wrote "Delivery Optimization" system service (DOSvc) and integrated it into Windows. I've actually spent most of my time on the WU/WSUS team. Update Orchestrater is probably waiting. I'm no longer involved, but if I remember correctly it uses the [Task Scheduling](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/taskschd/task-scheduler-start-page) system to begin. Update Orchestrater is to blame, ask them.
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I personally wrote some/parts of the [Windows Update Agent API](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wuapi/) but it was a while back. The ["Update Orchestrater"](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/how-windows-update-works) manages it. "Windows Update" isn't a single service, "BITS" or ["Delivery Optimization"](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/do/waas-delivery-optimization) do the download and "Update Orchestrater" (UsoSVC) does the management. I was on a team of two software engineers that wrote "Delivery Optimization" system service (DOSvc) and integrated it into Windows. I've actually spent most of my time on the WU/WSUS team. Update Orchestrater is probably waiting. I'm no longer involved, but if I remember correctly it uses the [Task Scheduling](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/taskschd/task-scheduler-start-page) system to begin. Update Orchestrater is to blame, ask them.
Interesting - I was thinking that way. As I said, one suggestion was to restart the service. Once I did, it immediately started installing. In the same thread out on answers.microsoft.com, below is appalling help from an "Independent Advisor". The only thing he did not say is "go buy a new computer." I see responses like this all the time out on answers. It makes me wonder if people like this get points or something. He surely did not type all of this but cut/paste. Anyway - thanks for the description. It looks like some nugget of code missed the "go" signal after the download. Some people have waited 18 hours.
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Hi Pulkit, I'm Paul and I'm here to help you with your concern. There must be something preventing the update to be finished. Please try the following. 1. Run Troubleshooter Open Settings => System => Troubleshoot => Other troubleshooters => Windows Update => Run. 2. Use Command Prompt commands. => Open Command prompt as Administrator. => Type/copy the commands below , enter 1 by 1. net stop wuauserv net stop cryptSvc net stop bits net stop msiserver ren C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old ren C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 catroot2.old net start wuauserv net start cryptSvc net start bits net start msiserver 3. Use System File Checker to check and fix corrupted system files which may be the cause of the issue. Please refer to the link. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/402652... 4. Uninstall any 3rd-party Antivirus. 5. Update all device drivers and BIOS. 6. Disconnect the USB devices except for the mouse and keyboard. 7. Perform Clean Boot. Refer to this link. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/929135... After doing the things listed above, try to reinstall the update. I hope this helps. Feel free to ask back any questions and keep me posted.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
For me this update took 3 hours. Goodluck to you ! :java:
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For me this update took 3 hours. Goodluck to you ! :java:
The longest part for me was the download (we've got some internet issues in the area). As soon as the installation kicked off, it was about 10 minutes.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
Just to pour oil on the fire :-D I have several PCs that had to be reversed out of 22H2 as they then failed to talk to older machines on the network that couldn't be updated to a similar level Fortunately the reversal is much quicker than the installation In particular client software wouldn't connect to sql server running on an older machine (windows 2003 so very old machine) came up with an ssl error. Reversing the update fixed it
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Interesting - I was thinking that way. As I said, one suggestion was to restart the service. Once I did, it immediately started installing. In the same thread out on answers.microsoft.com, below is appalling help from an "Independent Advisor". The only thing he did not say is "go buy a new computer." I see responses like this all the time out on answers. It makes me wonder if people like this get points or something. He surely did not type all of this but cut/paste. Anyway - thanks for the description. It looks like some nugget of code missed the "go" signal after the download. Some people have waited 18 hours.
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Hi Pulkit, I'm Paul and I'm here to help you with your concern. There must be something preventing the update to be finished. Please try the following. 1. Run Troubleshooter Open Settings => System => Troubleshoot => Other troubleshooters => Windows Update => Run. 2. Use Command Prompt commands. => Open Command prompt as Administrator. => Type/copy the commands below , enter 1 by 1. net stop wuauserv net stop cryptSvc net stop bits net stop msiserver ren C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old ren C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 catroot2.old net start wuauserv net start cryptSvc net start bits net start msiserver 3. Use System File Checker to check and fix corrupted system files which may be the cause of the issue. Please refer to the link. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/402652... 4. Uninstall any 3rd-party Antivirus. 5. Update all device drivers and BIOS. 6. Disconnect the USB devices except for the mouse and keyboard. 7. Perform Clean Boot. Refer to this link. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/929135... After doing the things listed above, try to reinstall the update. I hope this helps. Feel free to ask back any questions and keep me posted.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Just to pour oil on the fire :-D I have several PCs that had to be reversed out of 22H2 as they then failed to talk to older machines on the network that couldn't be updated to a similar level Fortunately the reversal is much quicker than the installation In particular client software wouldn't connect to sql server running on an older machine (windows 2003 so very old machine) came up with an ssl error. Reversing the update fixed it
Old bugs out, new bugs in. :sigh:
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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Microsoft seems to like to stick their progress bars at 99% or 100% for forever and a day, in my experience. It's probably summoning demons.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
