Not a rant, a real Windows 11 update question.... what the heck is it doing?
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
Just to pour oil on the fire :-D I have several PCs that had to be reversed out of 22H2 as they then failed to talk to older machines on the network that couldn't be updated to a similar level Fortunately the reversal is much quicker than the installation In particular client software wouldn't connect to sql server running on an older machine (windows 2003 so very old machine) came up with an ssl error. Reversing the update fixed it
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Interesting - I was thinking that way. As I said, one suggestion was to restart the service. Once I did, it immediately started installing. In the same thread out on answers.microsoft.com, below is appalling help from an "Independent Advisor". The only thing he did not say is "go buy a new computer." I see responses like this all the time out on answers. It makes me wonder if people like this get points or something. He surely did not type all of this but cut/paste. Anyway - thanks for the description. It looks like some nugget of code missed the "go" signal after the download. Some people have waited 18 hours.
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Hi Pulkit, I'm Paul and I'm here to help you with your concern. There must be something preventing the update to be finished. Please try the following. 1. Run Troubleshooter Open Settings => System => Troubleshoot => Other troubleshooters => Windows Update => Run. 2. Use Command Prompt commands. => Open Command prompt as Administrator. => Type/copy the commands below , enter 1 by 1. net stop wuauserv net stop cryptSvc net stop bits net stop msiserver ren C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old ren C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 catroot2.old net start wuauserv net start cryptSvc net start bits net start msiserver 3. Use System File Checker to check and fix corrupted system files which may be the cause of the issue. Please refer to the link. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/402652... 4. Uninstall any 3rd-party Antivirus. 5. Update all device drivers and BIOS. 6. Disconnect the USB devices except for the mouse and keyboard. 7. Perform Clean Boot. Refer to this link. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/929135... After doing the things listed above, try to reinstall the update. I hope this helps. Feel free to ask back any questions and keep me posted.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Just to pour oil on the fire :-D I have several PCs that had to be reversed out of 22H2 as they then failed to talk to older machines on the network that couldn't be updated to a similar level Fortunately the reversal is much quicker than the installation In particular client software wouldn't connect to sql server running on an older machine (windows 2003 so very old machine) came up with an ssl error. Reversing the update fixed it
Old bugs out, new bugs in. :sigh:
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Microsoft seems to like to stick their progress bars at 99% or 100% for forever and a day, in my experience. It's probably summoning demons.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
I lost faith in applying logic to MS's update methodology with the Windows OS years ago. I'm still trying to figure out why random functions in Windows 10 break while a new update is only downloaded and staged (supposedly). I've had updates here in my office take over 12 hours to complete. I've had all sorts of functions break until the staged update is applied. It is insane since I directly oversee around 200 computers, laptops, and tablets. I'm delaying my jump to Windows 11 for the same reason that I delay all updates of MS software - to allow their public debugging process to get farther on down the road. Good luck.
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
I've noticed the same thing. Here's my suspicion, with zero actual knowledge. While Windows Modules Installer Worker is running and killing the disk early, it's downloading huge files to install. When it gets to the point you're talking about, it's moving those files to the windows directory from the downloads area. Then, updating registry if necessary. Maybe backing stuff up first just in case, too. I suspect the "100%" is indicating all the moving of files has been accomplished, and registry updating is happening. Again, no inside knowledge, just a pure guess. It is frustrating to see the indicator at 100%. If you're 100% done, why am I not using my computer?
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
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Some of you may know the gory details of how Windows goes about doing it's update thing. My new laptop has decided it wants 22H2. So, I'm working on the older laptop, and I told it to go ahead. 30 minutes later, it's been downloaded, but it's been sitting at 100% for the past 20 minutes. No CPU or network processing is going on. So, is it doing some sort of integrity check? Just curious.
Charlie Gilley “Life is short, and it's uncertain." --Brian Schull, Sled driver
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Be careful about running some of those "Privacy" or "Disable Telemetry" powershell scripts/programs. They can break Windows Update and impact other parts of the operating system. Glad to hear it worked out for you.
As an FYI unrelated to this thread, my hopefully last video on our ancient astronomy is complete. [Our Forgotten History](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGoZGmI6pKI) illuminates some of the probable creation steps of the Bible, based on Samson's celestial backbone. The newest book version also opens up what the 'three paths' of the Babylonians were, which also opens up what Nibiru was.
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As an FYI unrelated to this thread, my hopefully last video on our ancient astronomy is complete. [Our Forgotten History](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGoZGmI6pKI) illuminates some of the probable creation steps of the Bible, based on Samson's celestial backbone. The newest book version also opens up what the 'three paths' of the Babylonians were, which also opens up what Nibiru was.
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As an FYI unrelated to this thread, my hopefully last video on our ancient astronomy is complete. [Our Forgotten History](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGoZGmI6pKI) illuminates some of the probable creation steps of the Bible, based on Samson's celestial backbone. The newest book version also opens up what the 'three paths' of the Babylonians were, which also opens up what Nibiru was.
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Ok, After watching I think you should expand on your conclusion about Jupiter (צדק), I am not convinced a Phoenician god was the origin of the Hebrew god. It's both the shortest segment of your video and perhaps most controversial conclusion. I want to know more. This subject might not be Lounge material. Your call. I have an issue with the terminology you are using. Phrases like "The bible" for example. Which bible? Do you mean the Tanakh? Your time frame only fits those texts. Your 12th segment, I've seen some similarities between the Akhenaten story and Moses, might be worth investigation. I like watching your material but I feel you are holding back. There's hours of video content that could be made for each talking point. Edit: First half I really like and the Samson story matches your observations. No comments.
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Ok, After watching I think you should expand on your conclusion about Jupiter (צדק), I am not convinced a Phoenician god was the origin of the Hebrew god. It's both the shortest segment of your video and perhaps most controversial conclusion. I want to know more. This subject might not be Lounge material. Your call. I have an issue with the terminology you are using. Phrases like "The bible" for example. Which bible? Do you mean the Tanakh? Your time frame only fits those texts. Your 12th segment, I've seen some similarities between the Akhenaten story and Moses, might be worth investigation. I like watching your material but I feel you are holding back. There's hours of video content that could be made for each talking point. Edit: First half I really like and the Samson story matches your observations. No comments.
Randor wrote:
After watching I think you should expand on your conclusion about Jupiter
The video is meant to be an overview. The Jupiter material is touched upon in a couple places, like chapter 9, of my book. I don't go into detail, because I don't have a mind like yours that can suck up info and approach it from a thousand different ways. I'm not trying to say that it came from a Phoenician god. Instead, the commonality of almost all the cultures back then is that the people were awed by Jupiter's brilliance, and ability to travel the entire sky, so that is the basis of many religions of those times. Logically, Baal and Anat, Yahweh and Asherah, and similar constructs, refer to Jupiter and Venus in their root form, and this comes from each culture semi-independently. I will let others who can hold infinite knowledge in their minds work out the finer details, and where I'm wrong and right. It was hell getting the Samson stuff figured out, and the bigger picture in place, because I've been lied to my entire life.
Randor wrote:
I have an issue with the terminology you are using. Phrases like "The bible" for example. Which bible? Do you mean the Tanakh? Your time frame only fits those texts.
This is another area I'm not an expert on. What I thought I was saying is that the core of what is now the Old Testament formed after the Babylonian Exile, rather than 1300 BC and earlier. That doesn't mean that core doesn't contain much older material. I believe Job contains some of the oldest material, from a scholastic perspective. But I think it became incorporated into what is now the Old Testament in about 500-300 BC?
Randor wrote:
Your 12th segment, I've seen some similarities between the Akhenaten story and Moses, might be worth investigation.
Chapter 15 is a summary of Moses information, overviewing 7 myths with a similar 'put into the waters at birth' scenario, and the 5 different versions of the Moses story that are documented. (Of course the 5th is the biblical version.) My contact info is at [Contact - RandomMonkeyWorks](https://www.randommonkeyworks.com/contact/), if you wish to chat more. Best wishes, David
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Ok, After watching I think you should expand on your conclusion about Jupiter (צדק), I am not convinced a Phoenician god was the origin of the Hebrew god. It's both the shortest segment of your video and perhaps most controversial conclusion. I want to know more. This subject might not be Lounge material. Your call. I have an issue with the terminology you are using. Phrases like "The bible" for example. Which bible? Do you mean the Tanakh? Your time frame only fits those texts. Your 12th segment, I've seen some similarities between the Akhenaten story and Moses, might be worth investigation. I like watching your material but I feel you are holding back. There's hours of video content that could be made for each talking point. Edit: First half I really like and the Samson story matches your observations. No comments.
PS - the book contains references supporting my Jupiter conclusions.
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Ok, After watching I think you should expand on your conclusion about Jupiter (צדק), I am not convinced a Phoenician god was the origin of the Hebrew god. It's both the shortest segment of your video and perhaps most controversial conclusion. I want to know more. This subject might not be Lounge material. Your call. I have an issue with the terminology you are using. Phrases like "The bible" for example. Which bible? Do you mean the Tanakh? Your time frame only fits those texts. Your 12th segment, I've seen some similarities between the Akhenaten story and Moses, might be worth investigation. I like watching your material but I feel you are holding back. There's hours of video content that could be made for each talking point. Edit: First half I really like and the Samson story matches your observations. No comments.
Yes, Tanakh would have been a better term to use.
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Yes, Tanakh would have been a better term to use.
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Is this your book? [Laughing At The Devil: One Man's Religious Discoveries: O'Neil, David: 9781440459610: Amazon.com: Books](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1440459614/ref=dbs\_a\_def\_rwt\_hsch\_vapi\_taft\_p1\_i0) How many people are named David O'Neil and do you all write books? :laugh: :laugh: It's $5 bucks according to Amazon, I bought it. For what it's worth, you have a decent speaking voice and I think you could reach a wider audience if you expand your video format. You could easily sit down with religious scholars and debate. It's an interesting subject.
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Is this your book? [Laughing At The Devil: One Man's Religious Discoveries: O'Neil, David: 9781440459610: Amazon.com: Books](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1440459614/ref=dbs\_a\_def\_rwt\_hsch\_vapi\_taft\_p1\_i0) How many people are named David O'Neil and do you all write books? :laugh: :laugh: It's $5 bucks according to Amazon, I bought it. For what it's worth, you have a decent speaking voice and I think you could reach a wider audience if you expand your video format. You could easily sit down with religious scholars and debate. It's an interesting subject.
Randor wrote:
How many people are named David O'Neil and do you all write books?
You got me! :laugh: If you know any religious scholars who are open to such a debate, and can hook me up, I'd love to give it a try! I look forward to your thoughts when you've read it.
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Randor wrote:
How many people are named David O'Neil and do you all write books?
You got me! :laugh: If you know any religious scholars who are open to such a debate, and can hook me up, I'd love to give it a try! I look forward to your thoughts when you've read it.
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David O'Neil wrote:
If you know any religious scholars who are open to such a debate
You just need to pick up the phone. The [Closer to Truth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closer\_to\_Truth) youtube channel has guests I think would be willing to do interviews. Watch his episodes and look at his [Philosophy of religion ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy\_of\_religion) guests. It's just a few tanks of gas and a few phone calls, get off your ass.
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David O'Neil wrote:
If you know any religious scholars who are open to such a debate
You just need to pick up the phone. The [Closer to Truth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closer\_to\_Truth) youtube channel has guests I think would be willing to do interviews. Watch his episodes and look at his [Philosophy of religion ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy\_of\_religion) guests. It's just a few tanks of gas and a few phone calls, get off your ass.
Thanks for the lead. I've contacted hundreds of scholars over the years. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but for some reason they never follow-up. Perhaps because they really don't want to push their own religious boundaries, and understand our history for themselves. Don't know...
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Thanks for the lead. I've contacted hundreds of scholars over the years. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but for some reason they never follow-up. Perhaps because they really don't want to push their own religious boundaries, and understand our history for themselves. Don't know...
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Dr. Robert Lawrence Kuhn had the same problem and he might have a financial advantage. But he didn't use money to overcome the problem. He regularly attends conferences. I'm more interested in his physics interviews. The physicists were very open to interviews. Religion doesn't interest me as much. But he actually had a harder time breaking into philosophy of religion. Get involved if you want to succeed in this area. [Upcoming events in Philosophy of Religion - PhilEvents](https://philevents.org/search/topic/575) Not my cup of tea, just making recommendations to help you succeed. If your ideas have merit present them to your peers, not software engineers.
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Dr. Robert Lawrence Kuhn had the same problem and he might have a financial advantage. But he didn't use money to overcome the problem. He regularly attends conferences. I'm more interested in his physics interviews. The physicists were very open to interviews. Religion doesn't interest me as much. But he actually had a harder time breaking into philosophy of religion. Get involved if you want to succeed in this area. [Upcoming events in Philosophy of Religion - PhilEvents](https://philevents.org/search/topic/575) Not my cup of tea, just making recommendations to help you succeed. If your ideas have merit present them to your peers, not software engineers.