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Not a rant, a real Windows 11 update question.... what the heck is it doing?

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  • Z zezba9000

    Pro Tip... don't use modern Window OS on old hardware. Its slow, it uses legacy driver emulation & it doesn't make your life better. Align the hardware age in your computer with the Window OS lifespans. Match those two & it will be smooth as butter.

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    Umm, not to be argumentative, but your statement contradicts reality. This occurred on a less than 1 year old AMD Ryzen 7 based laptop, 64GB ram, RTX3080, gigabit ethernet, and a Samsung NVMe SSD. No, Microsoft's bugs and design decisions are legendary. I noted how I fixed it above, but I think the update process has a race condition in it where the "let's go do the update" code misses the completion of the download. Conjecture on my part, but another post above explained how the process worked. I can understand not having drivers with older hardware - but the update process should detect a mismatch and give a meaningful error. Unfortunately MS simply does not give a crap.

    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      Omg, david o'neil IQ minus 1000, god help us, was he wrong. don't stress, ideas evolve, i really do need some sleep though.

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      I hope you are feeling well. Not that we had to continue the conversation, but your disappearance from the site makes me think you came down with something. If that is the case, get better soon.

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        I hope you are feeling well. Not that we had to continue the conversation, but your disappearance from the site makes me think you came down with something. If that is the case, get better soon.

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        LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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          LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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          Glad you are OK! Look forward to hearing back from you. Stay well!

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            LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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            David ONeil
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            Did your book show the 6th edition or the 7th edition in the copyright page? I just received an order and it gave me the 6th edition! If so, return your copy to Amazon for the correct version. If you remember reading a chapter on the three paths of the Babylonians, and illuminating what they were, you have the 7th edition. But I'll bet you have the 6th. That's why you didn't get the right page count!!! The 7th also has a chapter on Moses, for 16 chapters total. edit: now I have to go back to commiserating with myself for my poor addition abilities! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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              LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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              David ONeil
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              (Which also may explain why your copy was $5, and they haven't paid royalty on it yet. So the current edition will probably run the $20. :( )

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                (Which also may explain why your copy was $5, and they haven't paid royalty on it yet. So the current edition will probably run the $20. :( )

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                "Sixth edition 2019" ISBN 978-1440459610 I didn't know you were from Texas. Just noticed the address.

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                  "Sixth edition 2019" ISBN 978-1440459610 I didn't know you were from Texas. Just noticed the address.

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                  I'm in Montana now, but the PO box gets forwarded if it is anything important.

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                    I'm in Montana now, but the PO box gets forwarded if it is anything important.

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                    Your first edition arrived today. This thing doesn't have any copyright notices or anything. Book is in good condition, slight wear and normal signs of use. It has 434 pages not including blanks, dedication and table of contents. I left you a review over on Amazon. Can you check if you can see it? My Review page says "hidden by Sensitivity Filter · Dec 27, 2022" on that review for some reason. Never seen that before. I googled to see what it means and all I found was this: [Your Profile and Sensitive Products](https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G8NM2LXS3HEV8ZC3) I think it actually means that your "product" has been labled as sensitive but not really sure.

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                      Your first edition arrived today. This thing doesn't have any copyright notices or anything. Book is in good condition, slight wear and normal signs of use. It has 434 pages not including blanks, dedication and table of contents. I left you a review over on Amazon. Can you check if you can see it? My Review page says "hidden by Sensitivity Filter · Dec 27, 2022" on that review for some reason. Never seen that before. I googled to see what it means and all I found was this: [Your Profile and Sensitive Products](https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G8NM2LXS3HEV8ZC3) I think it actually means that your "product" has been labled as sensitive but not really sure.

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                      Randor wrote:

                      Your first edition arrived today. This thing doesn't have any copyright notices or anything.

                      If, when you open the cover, the first page shows my 'Out of pain comes anger...' prose, someone has probably cut the copyright page off for some reason.

                      Randor wrote:

                      I left you a review over on Amazon. Can you check if you can see it?

                      I see it on a logged-in browser, and a non-logged-in browser! Thanks! Let me know if you don't get a proper 7th edition. If you do, you will get more answers as to what my original contributions are, as the new work verified the Nibiru identification, and opened up the 'three paths' of the Babylonians. If you do so and contact me via email, I'll outline the changes between the 6th and 7th, so you don't have to re-read its entirety. If you don't, I'd be happy to send a PDF, mobi, or epub no-charge, so you can at least see the additions. I don't understand why Amazon gave you that flag, but since I can see the review evidently it has been overridden. Weird. Best wishes, David

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                        Randor wrote:

                        Your first edition arrived today. This thing doesn't have any copyright notices or anything.

                        If, when you open the cover, the first page shows my 'Out of pain comes anger...' prose, someone has probably cut the copyright page off for some reason.

                        Randor wrote:

                        I left you a review over on Amazon. Can you check if you can see it?

                        I see it on a logged-in browser, and a non-logged-in browser! Thanks! Let me know if you don't get a proper 7th edition. If you do, you will get more answers as to what my original contributions are, as the new work verified the Nibiru identification, and opened up the 'three paths' of the Babylonians. If you do so and contact me via email, I'll outline the changes between the 6th and 7th, so you don't have to re-read its entirety. If you don't, I'd be happy to send a PDF, mobi, or epub no-charge, so you can at least see the additions. I don't understand why Amazon gave you that flag, but since I can see the review evidently it has been overridden. Weird. Best wishes, David

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                        David O'Neil wrote:

                        If, when you open the cover, the first page shows my 'Out of pain comes anger...' prose, someone has probably cut the copyright page off for some reason.

                        Yes. Upon closer inspection I can see that the first copyright page had been torn off, I can take a picture of it if you like. Why would they do that? Hopefuly I don't find anymore torn out pages.

                        David O'Neil wrote:

                        I don't understand why Amazon gave you that flag, but since I can see the review evidently it has been overridden. Weird.

                        It was a hidden review. I checked from other devices and it was not coming up. I finally found a setting in my profile to 'Hide sensitive content on Public Profile' or however they worded it. Go check your Amazon profile, there is a second tab where this setting is located. I had to check/uncheck that box to get my review to show up. This could mean that you potentially have other reviews that are hidden. Might be worth investigating why your book is marked as 'sensitive'.

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                          David O'Neil wrote:

                          If, when you open the cover, the first page shows my 'Out of pain comes anger...' prose, someone has probably cut the copyright page off for some reason.

                          Yes. Upon closer inspection I can see that the first copyright page had been torn off, I can take a picture of it if you like. Why would they do that? Hopefuly I don't find anymore torn out pages.

                          David O'Neil wrote:

                          I don't understand why Amazon gave you that flag, but since I can see the review evidently it has been overridden. Weird.

                          It was a hidden review. I checked from other devices and it was not coming up. I finally found a setting in my profile to 'Hide sensitive content on Public Profile' or however they worded it. Go check your Amazon profile, there is a second tab where this setting is located. I had to check/uncheck that box to get my review to show up. This could mean that you potentially have other reviews that are hidden. Might be worth investigating why your book is marked as 'sensitive'.

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                          Randor wrote:

                          Might be worth investigating why your book is marked as 'sensitive'.

                          If true, it is probably because of the beginning of the second paragraph of the first chapter, which uses the only profanity in the book.

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                            David O'Neil wrote:

                            If, when you open the cover, the first page shows my 'Out of pain comes anger...' prose, someone has probably cut the copyright page off for some reason.

                            Yes. Upon closer inspection I can see that the first copyright page had been torn off, I can take a picture of it if you like. Why would they do that? Hopefuly I don't find anymore torn out pages.

                            David O'Neil wrote:

                            I don't understand why Amazon gave you that flag, but since I can see the review evidently it has been overridden. Weird.

                            It was a hidden review. I checked from other devices and it was not coming up. I finally found a setting in my profile to 'Hide sensitive content on Public Profile' or however they worded it. Go check your Amazon profile, there is a second tab where this setting is located. I had to check/uncheck that box to get my review to show up. This could mean that you potentially have other reviews that are hidden. Might be worth investigating why your book is marked as 'sensitive'.

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                            David ONeil
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                            (They may have cut it off because I believe long ago I dedicated a book on that page, before I added a blank page just for that purpose.)

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                              Randor wrote:

                              Might be worth investigating why your book is marked as 'sensitive'.

                              If true, it is probably because of the beginning of the second paragraph of the first chapter, which uses the only profanity in the book.

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                              I doubt it's the language. When I went through my prior Amazon reviews some of the audio/video surveillance equipment that I've purchased over the years was also marked as 'sensitive' with a hidden review. I deleted those reviews after I allowed yours through, I decided that I didn't want them public! :laugh: I can't seem to find any documentation on what the criteria is for marking a product as sensitive. I only spent a minute or two looking though.

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                                I doubt it's the language. When I went through my prior Amazon reviews some of the audio/video surveillance equipment that I've purchased over the years was also marked as 'sensitive' with a hidden review. I deleted those reviews after I allowed yours through, I decided that I didn't want them public! :laugh: I can't seem to find any documentation on what the criteria is for marking a product as sensitive. I only spent a minute or two looking though.

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                                Weird. I'll keep my eyes open for similar shenanigans in the future. Thanks for letting me know.

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                                  LOL, How did you know. That's nuts. Yes, I haven't had a cold or virus in a really long time. I was running a small fever (two days) but that passed, I still feel like dirt but feeling much better. I've been bragging to my friends and family how I seemed to be immune to Covid and haven't been sick for a long time. It finally caught me (not covid), seems like the common cold. If you are waiting for more feedback it may be a while. The tracking on your first edition book says December 28th, plus the week to read it. I want to see the big picture and evolution of your thoughts before providing feedback. I will contact you through your website and avoid public discussion. Best Wishes

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                                  Based on the lack of response, I'm guessing you agree with my assessment that the early editions are much worse than current, and harder to read. Looking at the second edition, yuck! I'm so glad I stuck with it to get to the bottom of the astronomy. But from that crappy read there is enough there to shout that the Samson story was based on astronomy. No rush - I just felt the need for some humor. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Hope you are having a great New Year!

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                                    Based on the lack of response, I'm guessing you agree with my assessment that the early editions are much worse than current, and harder to read. Looking at the second edition, yuck! I'm so glad I stuck with it to get to the bottom of the astronomy. But from that crappy read there is enough there to shout that the Samson story was based on astronomy. No rush - I just felt the need for some humor. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Hope you are having a great New Year!

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                                    Recent funeral. Yeah, the first edition is less organized. It's a harder read, I admit.

                                    David O'Neil wrote:

                                    Looking at the second edition, yuck!

                                    Does this mean you don't have a copy of your first edition? I feel like you should have a copy. You made me go look at it, I remember sitting a drink on it the other night. Looks fine, except for the torn out copyright page. I won't do it again.

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                                      Recent funeral. Yeah, the first edition is less organized. It's a harder read, I admit.

                                      David O'Neil wrote:

                                      Looking at the second edition, yuck!

                                      Does this mean you don't have a copy of your first edition? I feel like you should have a copy. You made me go look at it, I remember sitting a drink on it the other night. Looks fine, except for the torn out copyright page. I won't do it again.

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                                      I haven't found a first edition in my stuff, but I do have copies of every edition past that. Based on the second edition, the graphics in the first edition were real crappy wherever greyscale was involved. Lulu/Amazon said their process would take care of dithering, but they must of had a complete crap process. I got a couple 7th edition copies in yesterday, and the graphics are good but not perfect. It looks like the distance between the printhead and the paper isn't being controlled correctly. But the graphics are FAR better than the second edition graphics. Sorry for your loss. Hope you are doing well.

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                                        Recent funeral. Yeah, the first edition is less organized. It's a harder read, I admit.

                                        David O'Neil wrote:

                                        Looking at the second edition, yuck!

                                        Does this mean you don't have a copy of your first edition? I feel like you should have a copy. You made me go look at it, I remember sitting a drink on it the other night. Looks fine, except for the torn out copyright page. I won't do it again.

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                                        David ONeil
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                                        PS - if you want to swap that first edition for a signed 7th edition, we can work something out when you email me. You should still be able to get your money back on that 6th edition as the website was advertising it as a 7th edition.

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                                          PS - if you want to swap that first edition for a signed 7th edition, we can work something out when you email me. You should still be able to get your money back on that 6th edition as the website was advertising it as a 7th edition.

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                                          Well, Too much work, you can you just give me a mental diff.

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