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  • D den2k88

    You're not writing for the compiler.

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    trønderen
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    I usually do. The compiler is only one who really cares, and analyzes my writings thoroughly!

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    • T trønderen

      Jacquers wrote:

      I generally just use what's in the specific language's style guide.

      For C/C++ there is about 42 different bracing / indentation styles fighting for dominance, so referring to "the specific language's" style, as if it was unambiguous, is meaningless. From a logical point, I would prefer

      void AFunc() {
      }

      but I have never seen that promoted in any style guide. The opening brace comes when the statement cannot be completed on the current line, indicating that a block is to follow. You should before you leave the line that you won't find a single one-statement line, but a block. I am one who think "if (day==sunday) weekend = true;" in one line is perfectly fine. "if (day==sunday) {" shows that the statement is not complete. The following block is indented. An indentation always follows a brace. No an indentation without an opening brace; no opening brace without an indentation.

      "if (day==sunday)
      {
      }

      starts the indentation before the brace - that is inconsistent! Undenting follows a closing brace. No undentation without a closing brace, no closing brace without an undentation.

      "if (day==sunday)
      {
      // indented code block
      }

      undents before reaching the closing brace - that is inconsistent. Noone seems to agree with my logic. So I bow my head and follow whatever style guide is enforced upon me. Switch statements mess up indentation in C/C++. One common layout is:

      switch (day) {
      case (day == saturday):
      case (day == sunday):
      celebrate();
      break;
      default:
      gotowork();
      break;
      }

      The case alternatives are not blocks, so they don't need braces (that is also why they need the 'break'!), but they are indented! I certainly wish they were blocks, for consistency's sake (and I really dislike the 'default is fall through'), so I prefer to make them blocks, adding braces, to justify the indentation. Very few agree with this logic, too - they are so used to seeing indents without any braces justifying it that the inconsistency doesn't bother them.

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      honey the codewitch
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      Why not just put blocks in if you prefer it that way? It also makes it so you can declare variables under the case without the compiler yelling at you.

      case 1: {
      // do work
      }
      break; // could be inside

      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      • pkfoxP pkfox

        Are you in this camp

        void AFunc(){
        }

        or this one

        void AFunc()
        {
        }

        I'm in the second

        Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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        Lost User
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        First, always. The single "{" hanging in the air - taken to the extreme becomes: if (...) { .. } else { .. } versus if () { .. } else { .. }

        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        • H honey the codewitch

          Why not just put blocks in if you prefer it that way? It also makes it so you can declare variables under the case without the compiler yelling at you.

          case 1: {
          // do work
          }
          break; // could be inside

          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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          trønderen
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          #37

          Yes, like I said. But I do not undent until after the closing brace, so I would indent that as well (and include the break in the block). Why not just do it? Because you sometimes have co-workers. For some time, I was using an embedded language (CHILL) which provided the loop construct FOR EVER DO - infinite loops are not uncommon in embedded software. In a new job, programming IoT in C, in one of the modules I was responsible for, I added a "#define ever ;;" for being able to program "for (ever) {...". After a few months, this was discovered by another programmer (not working on my module), who immediately searched through the entire repository to reveal ever use of such "programming jokes", changing them all to "while (0)", deleting the #define and adding a rude remark on the edit where he requested that all programmers refrain from such unserious coding practices in the future. In the next scrum, he brought up his discovery, reporting to everybody how he had 'cleaned up' my code. I asked if he would accept "while (true)", but no: The proper way to code an infinite loop is "while (0)", with a zero. In classical C, "true" is a #define symbol, not part of the base language, and should not be used for fundamental things such as infinite loops. I got no support from the team at all. Not even for "while (true)". In a code review with the same team, I was asked why I would "clutter up" the code with such unnecessary braces in switch statements. I had the same remarks when I added braces to justify the indentation in one-line conditional statements, like

          if (day == sunday) {
          relax();
          }

          The coding standard did not allow the "relax()" to be put on the same line as the "if", but mandated the indentation. It didn't explicitly forbid the braces I would like to add - but the programming team did, telling me to remove them. That's how it is working in a team. You have to be obedient. Don't try to make code more readable, or consistent, or safer, if it breaks with the unwritten laws of the team.

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          • T trønderen

            Yes, like I said. But I do not undent until after the closing brace, so I would indent that as well (and include the break in the block). Why not just do it? Because you sometimes have co-workers. For some time, I was using an embedded language (CHILL) which provided the loop construct FOR EVER DO - infinite loops are not uncommon in embedded software. In a new job, programming IoT in C, in one of the modules I was responsible for, I added a "#define ever ;;" for being able to program "for (ever) {...". After a few months, this was discovered by another programmer (not working on my module), who immediately searched through the entire repository to reveal ever use of such "programming jokes", changing them all to "while (0)", deleting the #define and adding a rude remark on the edit where he requested that all programmers refrain from such unserious coding practices in the future. In the next scrum, he brought up his discovery, reporting to everybody how he had 'cleaned up' my code. I asked if he would accept "while (true)", but no: The proper way to code an infinite loop is "while (0)", with a zero. In classical C, "true" is a #define symbol, not part of the base language, and should not be used for fundamental things such as infinite loops. I got no support from the team at all. Not even for "while (true)". In a code review with the same team, I was asked why I would "clutter up" the code with such unnecessary braces in switch statements. I had the same remarks when I added braces to justify the indentation in one-line conditional statements, like

            if (day == sunday) {
            relax();
            }

            The coding standard did not allow the "relax()" to be put on the same line as the "if", but mandated the indentation. It didn't explicitly forbid the braces I would like to add - but the programming team did, telling me to remove them. That's how it is working in a team. You have to be obedient. Don't try to make code more readable, or consistent, or safer, if it breaks with the unwritten laws of the team.

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            honey the codewitch
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            #38

            I've been spoiled for years by being in a situation where I set the standards and control the direction on account of my experience. That said, I understand where you are coming from, but I don't envy you your coworkers. It sounds like you don't have enough written coding standards. If you all wanted to increase your productivity and reduce problems, you'd have linting and formatting scripts for this if the project is significant enough in size. Or at least that's what I'd do, as it tends to pay for itself in terms of more legible and consistent code, and shorter code reviews. :-D

            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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            • pkfoxP pkfox

              Are you in this camp

              void AFunc(){
              }

              or this one

              void AFunc()
              {
              }

              I'm in the second

              Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              Gary R Wheeler
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              #39

              The first style is usually called "K&R", while the second is often named Allman. There are countless variations based on indentation of the following code body. I started out using K&R when I learned 'C' from, er, the K&R. When I learned C# where the convention leans hard toward Allman, I found I preferred Allman braces. I have significant visual problems: myopia, astigmatism, presbyopia, and glaucoma in the left eye, and the right one is made of plastic. Did I mention the cataract forming in the left eye? Allman adds white-space and highlights braces, both of which improve readability greatly for me. One good thing about venerable VS2008 still being an active tool in our shop is that I have a Visual Studio editor macro that converts K&R style to Allman. I don't like the reformatters in later editions of Visual Studio.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              • pkfoxP pkfox

                Are you in this camp

                void AFunc(){
                }

                or this one

                void AFunc()
                {
                }

                I'm in the second

                Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                BernardIE5317
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                I generally prefer the latter but it depends ... = [](){ return on my mood + on the number of enclosed statements + on the kind of those statements e.g. for some reason I like lambda 's all in one line + on the complexity of those statements + on whatever surprises the automatic formatting of IDEA has in store for me; }();

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                • pkfoxP pkfox

                  Are you in this camp

                  void AFunc(){
                  }

                  or this one

                  void AFunc()
                  {
                  }

                  I'm in the second

                  Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  #41

                  This is the only correct way:

                  void AFunc() {
                  }

                  Embrace it. Join the dark side. :-\

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  • G Gary R Wheeler

                    The first style is usually called "K&R", while the second is often named Allman. There are countless variations based on indentation of the following code body. I started out using K&R when I learned 'C' from, er, the K&R. When I learned C# where the convention leans hard toward Allman, I found I preferred Allman braces. I have significant visual problems: myopia, astigmatism, presbyopia, and glaucoma in the left eye, and the right one is made of plastic. Did I mention the cataract forming in the left eye? Allman adds white-space and highlights braces, both of which improve readability greatly for me. One good thing about venerable VS2008 still being an active tool in our shop is that I have a Visual Studio editor macro that converts K&R style to Allman. I don't like the reformatters in later editions of Visual Studio.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    #42

                    I'm totally K&R, but I upvoted this anyway just because you're cool. #no_shame

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      I'm totally K&R, but I upvoted this anyway just because you're cool. #no_shame

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      Gary R Wheeler
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #43

                      Thanks Jeremy. Glad to see you coming around here again!

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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