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  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

    A problem with

    typedef Type* TypePtr;

    is that if you declare

    const TypePtr p;

    it is p (the pointer itself) that is const, not Type. This can be confusing, so I avoid it.

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    Gary R Wheeler
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    Good point. To my thinking const-ness, like pointer-ness, are properties of the variable and not the type. Part of my dislike for that sort of thing is people use some kind of naming convention (xxxPtr, xxxCPtr,...) that indicates the variant of the type. It pollutes the name space with additional identifiers you need to recognize. This replaces fundamental language syntax which is consistent by definition with arbitrary naming that may or may not be consistent. I've also noticed that the typedef overusers also tend to cast those types, often using language syntax, to other typedef's they've forgotten.

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      constexpr static const int life_the_universe_and_everything = 42;

      :-\

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      Mircea Neacsu
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      Didn't expect less: west coast, shall be west const ;P

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      • S Single Step Debugger

        Type *p;

        or

        Type* p;

        or even

        Type * p;

        Me personally, I do whatever is the current company naming conventions.

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        jmaida
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        Thanx for this introduction to computer language pointer constructs specifically related to C. True C++, C# are involved. The string of discussion was quite interesting.

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        • S Single Step Debugger

          Type *p;

          or

          Type* p;

          or even

          Type * p;

          Me personally, I do whatever is the current company naming conventions.

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          den2k88
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          I never met any convention that specifies pointer declarations so I use

          Type* p;

          I learnt with Type *p; but I always found it more complex to understand: after all that identifier holds a pointer to p, so it's type is pointer. Same for Type** p. Only sometimes I mix them around if there are readability reasons, for example Type** *p; can be in my opinion more readable if p holds a pointer to a matrix (i.e. if you need to return a matrix allocated by the callee, switch the matrix to send to the callee based on something, etc).

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          • K k5054

            type *p;

            Because

            type* p, q

            doesn't do what it looks like it does. Of course, that kicks off the argument about multiple variables per type declaration.

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            k5054 wrote:

            Of course, that kicks off the argument about multiple variables per type declaration.

            Not an argument: don't do that.

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            • H honey the codewitch

              I generally agree with you, but I am not all in on that agreement, if that makes sense. Here's why: You have to look up a typedef to know what it is, and typedefs everywhere make it harder to know what's going on until you can adopt the fundamental lexicon that your typedefs essentially create. That said, everything you wrote is valid. I just think there are places where it might be overkill.

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              den2k88
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              Working with autogenerated code from both MATLAB ans AutoSAR really teaches how much typedef and define complicate the code. Sometimes you have seven or eight redefinitions - it's Hell on Earth.

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                Working with autogenerated code from both MATLAB ans AutoSAR really teaches how much typedef and define complicate the code. Sometimes you have seven or eight redefinitions - it's Hell on Earth.

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                Rage
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                AutoSAR ? You doing automotive development ?

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                  AutoSAR ? You doing automotive development ?

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  Yep, though I'm not touching AutoSAR since a couple of years - I moved to lower level peripherals that run on TLE987x and similar.

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                    Yep, though I'm not touching AutoSAR since a couple of years - I moved to lower level peripherals that run on TLE987x and similar.

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                    Rage
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                    Now this is interesting, since I am working on that exact Infineon family as well !

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                      Now this is interesting, since I am working on that exact Infineon family as well !

                      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                      den2k88
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                      It's the golden standard, it's HV driver protections are second to none and the RTE is flawless.

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                      • G Gary R Wheeler

                        Good point. To my thinking const-ness, like pointer-ness, are properties of the variable and not the type. Part of my dislike for that sort of thing is people use some kind of naming convention (xxxPtr, xxxCPtr,...) that indicates the variant of the type. It pollutes the name space with additional identifiers you need to recognize. This replaces fundamental language syntax which is consistent by definition with arbitrary naming that may or may not be consistent. I've also noticed that the typedef overusers also tend to cast those types, often using language syntax, to other typedef's they've forgotten.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Greg Utas
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                        I often define a typedef for a template instantiation, to keep the type succinct:

                        typedef std::unique_ptr ClassPtr;
                        typedef std::vector ClassPtrVector;

                        And then there are things like

                        typedef int main_t; // returned by main()
                        typedef int signal_t; // a POSIX signal
                        typedef uint16_t ipport_t; // an IP port number

                        which do a much better job than simple int types when documenting, or searching for, data and functions that deal with these things.

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                          (Lights his torch.)

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                          obermd
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                          Is that to pop the popcorn?

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                          • T trønderen

                            Yeah, but in

                            int x, *y;

                            is the * part of the type declaration or the variable declaration? If it is part of the type declaration, then type of y is declared in two parts, with an interspersed (and rather irrelevant) variable declaration. Is that very rational? It is valid C!

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                            jschell
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                            The discussion is subjective as was the opinion of the columnist to which I referred. But as an authoritative opinion (as a columnist) the argument did provide a specific rationalization.

                            trønderen wrote:

                            int x, *y;

                            I don't code using that form. And I very, very seldom see it used or even a case where it might be used. So as a rationalization for doing it all the time it does not seem to be very valid.

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