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  • pkfoxP pkfox

    Have a look at this [Handbrake](https://www.howtogeek.com/102886/how-to-decrypt-dvds-with-hardbrake-so-you-can-rip-them/)

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    Single Step Debugger
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    I second Handbrake. I've used it before, and it just works.

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    • R Richard Deeming

      Before you start paying for software, why not try VLC[^]? It's free, and will let you rip a DVD to an MP4 file fairly easily. Media ⇒ Convert/Save... ⇒ Disc


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      trønderen
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      It won't handle copy protected disks, though. Maybe some protection schemes, but not all.

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      • pkfoxP pkfox

        Have a look at this [Handbrake](https://www.howtogeek.com/102886/how-to-decrypt-dvds-with-hardbrake-so-you-can-rip-them/)

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        trønderen
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        I use Handbrake a lot for generating MP4 files: Lots of my friends never had a BD player; they went directly from DVD to streaming, and then they threw out even the DVD player. I want to bring a movie to them on a memory stick (as I will tonight - we always watch "Rare Exports Inc." on winter solstice!), all that their TV sets can read are MP4 format. Handbrake is very flexible with formats, and can produce "any" format from "any" original. It also lets you select which sound and subtitle track you want to convert. And if you want to stress test your CPU, it is great :-) It is the only software I've got that can keep all 12 cores of my CPU at 99% utilization for half an hour without a glitch ... BUT: It is a well behaved program. Read: It makes no attempt at all to break through any region / copy protection. You can use a less well behaved program to break copy protection to make a DVD directory image on your hard disk, and them use Handbrake to create an MP4, if you need that. (Most PC DVD/BD readers can play a DVD directory image directly; you don't need to make an MP4 unless you want to play the movie on a device that won't play the directory structure. This applies to a lot of TV sets.) (I've got a small pile of DVDs and BDs with copy protection that I have found no PC software to handle. As far as I can see, they all are burnt with bad checksums in a few essential sectors. The plain movie players just go on, assuming that if there really was an error on the disk, it will just cause a brief glitch in the image. Copy programs insist on checksums being correct. I haven't found one that behaves like a player. Besides, I suspect that the code actived during playing will insist on finding a bad checksum. If I make a sector-by-sector copy program, ignoring bad checksums, writing an ISO image with good checksums, they playing will probably stop. So I need a copier/ripper that ignores bad checksums and at the same time creates a new (say) MP4.)

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        • Y yacCarsten

          I'm looking to backup my DVD collection while I still have a DVD player. I've been trialling WinX DVD Ripper Platinum from Digiarty Software. The trial version gives a 5 minute sample and the output seems to be reasonable. I had my son's sharper eyes/ears have look and he thought it was Ok too. The software is easy enough for my simple brain to use as there aren't too many options (but lots of presets). I don't think there are any free products out there, so $60 is not a show stopper. Online reviews seem to be pretty positive (there's always one person who is unhappy). Has anyone used this product & what did you think of it?

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          RussTheMan
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          DVD Decrypter - Wikipedia[^] Caveat Emptor - I haven't used it for ages, but it always worked for me - produces an ISO File from a physical DVD Disk . .

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            DVD Decrypter - Wikipedia[^] Caveat Emptor - I haven't used it for ages, but it always worked for me - produces an ISO File from a physical DVD Disk . .

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            yacCarsten
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            I was lucky and got a copy before the developer removed it. I used to backup the kids DVDs all the time, it saved me a small fortune in replacements. It was great in the day but has not been supported for many years and doesn't work with modern encryption. I heard a rumour that the movie companies paid him enough to retire (rumour only, not confirmed).

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              I was lucky and got a copy before the developer removed it. I used to backup the kids DVDs all the time, it saved me a small fortune in replacements. It was great in the day but has not been supported for many years and doesn't work with modern encryption. I heard a rumour that the movie companies paid him enough to retire (rumour only, not confirmed).

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              lewist57
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              If you want to try the hardware route, you can take the HDMI output of the DVD player through a HDMI cable splitter to remove the copy protection signal and then feed into a good (not cheap but under $100) video capture card such as the one from BlackMagic. The resulting file will be about 1gig per hour of video, and you will have to convert the output to the final desired format. But the final file will be of quality equal to the original.

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                If you want to try the hardware route, you can take the HDMI output of the DVD player through a HDMI cable splitter to remove the copy protection signal and then feed into a good (not cheap but under $100) video capture card such as the one from BlackMagic. The resulting file will be about 1gig per hour of video, and you will have to convert the output to the final desired format. But the final file will be of quality equal to the original.

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                yacCarsten
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                :thumbsup: Always amazes me the number of solutions we can come up with within our community. I'm on the other side of mid 50's, so with my sight & hearing, quality is not really a factor.

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                • Y yacCarsten

                  :thumbsup: Always amazes me the number of solutions we can come up with within our community. I'm on the other side of mid 50's, so with my sight & hearing, quality is not really a factor.

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                  lewist57
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                  I got into it a number of years ago to digitize my video tapes of my daughter from 30+ years ago. My memory was that pure software conversion solutions were always 1 or more steps behind the copy protection schemes. Conversion using the cheap USB converters (< $50) was only acceptable for standard definition video due to throughput limitations. Evidently a HDMI signal splitter strips out any copy protection signals, and a 4K BlackMagic PCI video capture card does the heavy lifting on digitizing the input signal. It outputs an uncompressed videos and audio file, which must be further processed into the final file format such as MP4. And time consuming, as it takes 2 hours to digitize a 2 hour video, and then more time to convert the raw video and audio file. All of this is really too much for just copying a couple DVDs (or video tapes). But if you have lots of videos to digitize and quality is a consideration, this may be a viable option.

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                  • Y yacCarsten

                    :thumbsup: Always amazes me the number of solutions we can come up with within our community. I'm on the other side of mid 50's, so with my sight & hearing, quality is not really a factor.

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                    Mark Starr
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                    :) Yes, it’s a testament to how, there not being one all-encompassing solution, there are many options. I use DVD Shrink ([http://www.dvdshrink.org/\](http://www.dvdshrink.org/)) and DVD Decrypter. And occasionally VLC. DVD Shrink will remove region codes. :) Side note: I had to chuckle at the thought of backing up DVDs in preparation of not having a DVD device.

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                    • Y yacCarsten

                      I'm looking to backup my DVD collection while I still have a DVD player. I've been trialling WinX DVD Ripper Platinum from Digiarty Software. The trial version gives a 5 minute sample and the output seems to be reasonable. I had my son's sharper eyes/ears have look and he thought it was Ok too. The software is easy enough for my simple brain to use as there aren't too many options (but lots of presets). I don't think there are any free products out there, so $60 is not a show stopper. Online reviews seem to be pretty positive (there's always one person who is unhappy). Has anyone used this product & what did you think of it?

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                      DumpsterJuice
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                      I struggle with this also. Ripping them to disk, means you have to buy a multi-terabyte external drive(s). OK Fair enough. Maybe $100 or less. If you are real paranoid, you might even duplicate that drive for a "backup backup" Ripping DVD's is a Royal Pain. I found in the end: If I want to watch a movie, 99% of the time, I can find it streaming somewhere. "Precious (hard to find) Items" : If you cant find it streaming online, perhaps some eclectic movie, you can buy a copy and limit the amount of DVDs to rip. But I have not gotten over my "Pack rat" Mentality. I still covet some movies on disk. Handbrake is the best DVD Ripper I have used. Keep It Simple, keep it moving.

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                      • Y yacCarsten

                        I'm looking to backup my DVD collection while I still have a DVD player. I've been trialling WinX DVD Ripper Platinum from Digiarty Software. The trial version gives a 5 minute sample and the output seems to be reasonable. I had my son's sharper eyes/ears have look and he thought it was Ok too. The software is easy enough for my simple brain to use as there aren't too many options (but lots of presets). I don't think there are any free products out there, so $60 is not a show stopper. Online reviews seem to be pretty positive (there's always one person who is unhappy). Has anyone used this product & what did you think of it?

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                        Lance Milleson
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                        I use MakeMKV [^] Using the Backup feature will create an ISO from a DVD or will decrypt a Blu-Ray to files that can be made into an ISO (using some files -> ISO tool: I use Virtual CD for that). Or it can create mkv files from the individual videos on the DVD/Blu-ray. Like, for a movie disc, the main feature, the previews, the special features, etc. etc. etc. I think the paid version is $30 or $35 (I'm at work and the site is blocked here)

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                          I'm looking to backup my DVD collection while I still have a DVD player. I've been trialling WinX DVD Ripper Platinum from Digiarty Software. The trial version gives a 5 minute sample and the output seems to be reasonable. I had my son's sharper eyes/ears have look and he thought it was Ok too. The software is easy enough for my simple brain to use as there aren't too many options (but lots of presets). I don't think there are any free products out there, so $60 is not a show stopper. Online reviews seem to be pretty positive (there's always one person who is unhappy). Has anyone used this product & what did you think of it?

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                          sasadler
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                          I"ve been using DVDFab for years. The US version is a bit crippled but they have versions for other countries that don't have DMCA.

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                          • L Lance Milleson

                            I use MakeMKV [^] Using the Backup feature will create an ISO from a DVD or will decrypt a Blu-Ray to files that can be made into an ISO (using some files -> ISO tool: I use Virtual CD for that). Or it can create mkv files from the individual videos on the DVD/Blu-ray. Like, for a movie disc, the main feature, the previews, the special features, etc. etc. etc. I think the paid version is $30 or $35 (I'm at work and the site is blocked here)

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                            ScarberiaDude
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                            +1 for MakeMKV. It appears to me to do zero transcoding, unlike some other ripping tools. This makes it relatively fast, and you get quality identical to the original source.

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                              If you want to try the hardware route, you can take the HDMI output of the DVD player through a HDMI cable splitter to remove the copy protection signal and then feed into a good (not cheap but under $100) video capture card such as the one from BlackMagic. The resulting file will be about 1gig per hour of video, and you will have to convert the output to the final desired format. But the final file will be of quality equal to the original.

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                              dandy72
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                              lewist57 wrote:

                              he resulting file will be about 1gig per hour of video, and you will have to convert the output to the final desired format. But the final file will be of quality equal to the original.

                              Sure. 1GB per hour. So a 2-hour, 40GB Blu-ray gets turned into a 2GB file with "quality equal to the original". What's the other 38GB for, extreme redundancy? [Edit] While I'll agree there is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to bitrate...I'll need some extra convincing for this one.

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                                lewist57 wrote:

                                he resulting file will be about 1gig per hour of video, and you will have to convert the output to the final desired format. But the final file will be of quality equal to the original.

                                Sure. 1GB per hour. So a 2-hour, 40GB Blu-ray gets turned into a 2GB file with "quality equal to the original". What's the other 38GB for, extreme redundancy? [Edit] While I'll agree there is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to bitrate...I'll need some extra convincing for this one.

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                                lewist57
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                                Well this method is more practical for digitizing video tapes (ironically onto DVDs). If I want a backup of a commercially available DVD, I would buy a used one on eBay for usually less than $5.

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                                  I'm looking to backup my DVD collection while I still have a DVD player. I've been trialling WinX DVD Ripper Platinum from Digiarty Software. The trial version gives a 5 minute sample and the output seems to be reasonable. I had my son's sharper eyes/ears have look and he thought it was Ok too. The software is easy enough for my simple brain to use as there aren't too many options (but lots of presets). I don't think there are any free products out there, so $60 is not a show stopper. Online reviews seem to be pretty positive (there's always one person who is unhappy). Has anyone used this product & what did you think of it?

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                                  Br Bill
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                                  I've used their Mac version for years. It works great. They'll keep offering you upgrades but I'll bet you never need one.

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