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  • D Daniel Pfeffer

    The sorcerer's apprentice - they've learnt how to multiply, but not how to stop! :omg:

    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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    Like Nanny Ogg spelling "Banana" ...

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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      People will wind up writing crappier code because the won't check the code that's generated. Maybe it would run in isolation, but chances are it will have side affects as part of something bigger.

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        People will wind up writing crappier code because the won't check the code that's generated. Maybe it would run in isolation, but chances are it will have side affects as part of something bigger.

        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

        People will wind up writing crappier code because the won't check the code that's generated

        I will take that comment one step further and say that most coders in the near future (currently?) don't fully understand/grok most of the AI generated code (copy pasta too) they will use and thus if there are issues or it needs to be scaled or built upon, they will have no clue what to do, but perhaps generate more AI code. :sigh: :doh:

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          People will wind up writing crappier code because the won't check the code that's generated. Maybe it would run in isolation, but chances are it will have side affects as part of something bigger.

          "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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          Most of the stuff I've seen (ChatGPT generated) posted here so far wont; even compile - and when it does the OP normally comments that it doesn't work. The AI will get better though - give it a decade or so and it'll be able to do the "grunt work" if not design full systems.

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            Most of the stuff I've seen (ChatGPT generated) posted here so far wont; even compile - and when it does the OP normally comments that it doesn't work. The AI will get better though - give it a decade or so and it'll be able to do the "grunt work" if not design full systems.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            What AI can be able to do if the right people develop it: How Peter Jackson Used AI on The Beatles’ ‘Revolver’ Release[^] I bought the 2CD Edition for only 20 EUR and it is great!

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              "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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              Counterpoint: [Code-generating AI can introduce security vulnerabilities, study finds • TechCrunch](https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/28/code-generating-ai-can-introduce-security-vulnerabilities-study-finds/)

              Keep Calm and Carry On

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                What AI can be able to do if the right people develop it: How Peter Jackson Used AI on The Beatles’ ‘Revolver’ Release[^] I bought the 2CD Edition for only 20 EUR and it is great!

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                Jo_vb.net wrote:

                What AI can be able to do if the right people develop it:

                That was a great read - thank you for sharing!

                Latest Article:
                Create a Digital Ocean Droplet for .NET Core Web API with a real SSL Certificate on a Domain

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                  "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                  Yet apparently we'll need only one, which will do everything.

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                    Yet apparently we'll need only one, which will do everything.

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                    What a dramatic statement :laugh: I see it more like this: There will be many fighting each other ;P :laugh:

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                      Most of the stuff I've seen (ChatGPT generated) posted here so far wont; even compile - and when it does the OP normally comments that it doesn't work. The AI will get better though - give it a decade or so and it'll be able to do the "grunt work" if not design full systems.

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      I tried out ChatGPT and asked it to simply: how can I make tabbed content using bootstrap? [see getbootstrap.com - CSS HTML designs] It created a solution that contained an non-existent version of Bootstrap. I was completely puzzled by that. Why / How did it create a link to a non-existent bootstrap code -- used a CDN link that didn't exist? :confused: I told the AI that the version didn't exist and it attempted to create sample code with a version that does indeed exist. But this time it stopped in the middle of typing the example. ??? I explained that it was not a complete example & it apologized and did create sample code. however, when I attempted to run the code (HTML & CSS) the browser couldn't even render it. This is a fairly simple thing to do. (You can see a working sample at this jsfiddle if you like[^].) I created that sample long ago. I then attempted to direct the AI by saying, "Check out the code at <link> to help you solve the problem." But in the end it couldn't even do this simple thing. I'm sure in a year or maybe less it will be able to do it.

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                        What a dramatic statement :laugh: I see it more like this: There will be many fighting each other ;P :laugh:

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                        There can be only one!

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                          People will wind up writing crappier code because the won't check the code that's generated. Maybe it would run in isolation, but chances are it will have side affects as part of something bigger.

                          "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                          Well there is already a serious problem with cut/paste of source without understanding it. Now we'll get AI generated code, but how does one support this? If it's safety critical, who is legally responsible? This is a version of the self driving car issue.

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                            What a dramatic statement :laugh: I see it more like this: There will be many fighting each other ;P :laugh:

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                            Highlander!

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                              "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                              It's recursion without wisdom.

                              "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                                Reminds me of all the JavaScript Frameworks out there...

                                Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

                                We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. - Greta Thunberg

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                                  Like Nanny Ogg spelling "Banana" ...

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                  I almost spilled coffee on my laptop. :laugh:

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                                    Most of the stuff I've seen (ChatGPT generated) posted here so far wont; even compile - and when it does the OP normally comments that it doesn't work. The AI will get better though - give it a decade or so and it'll be able to do the "grunt work" if not design full systems.

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    "Coding from spec" is grunt work. I used to do the analysis, design and pseudo code; my team would then complain that they had nothing "to do" (i.e. the freedom to go off the rails). I can see AI generating code from "a spec" ... I don't see it creating a spec for a new system that doesn't fall into a neat category like "payroll" without a lot of "prompting" (i.e. domain knowledge transfer).

                                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                      Most of the stuff I've seen (ChatGPT generated) posted here so far wont; even compile - and when it does the OP normally comments that it doesn't work. The AI will get better though - give it a decade or so and it'll be able to do the "grunt work" if not design full systems.

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      if not design full systems.

                                      I won't be holding my breath on that one.

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                                        "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                                        So what from mentioned tools can be tried for free?

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