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  • D DerekT P

    Yep! Said it was easy... :) But... why isn't it just "ceased"? Surely deceased should mean un-ceased, i.e. resumed? :~

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    Just say dead its easier :-D

    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      Just say dead its easier :-D

      Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      OriginalGriff
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      Yes, but "deceased" or "passed away" is easier on the family and friends - it's less "abrupt", less "final" for some reason.

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        Yes, but "deceased" or "passed away" is easier on the family and friends - it's less "abrupt", less "final" for some reason.

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        "passed away" I can just about accept. But increasingly people will say (e.g.) "My aunt passed this weekend". My immediate response is to look pleased and say "Well done to her... what did she pass?" My wife is a (retired) bereavement counsellor and using euphemisms isn't really helpful in the long term. :sigh: And yes, the in-flammable conundrum has always bothered me!

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        • D DerekT P

          "passed away" I can just about accept. But increasingly people will say (e.g.) "My aunt passed this weekend". My immediate response is to look pleased and say "Well done to her... what did she pass?" My wife is a (retired) bereavement counsellor and using euphemisms isn't really helpful in the long term. :sigh: And yes, the in-flammable conundrum has always bothered me!

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          OriginalGriff
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          Qi covered the conundrum and explains it: QI | What's The Opposite Of Inflammable? - YouTube[^]

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Yes, but "deceased" or "passed away" is easier on the family and friends - it's less "abrupt", less "final" for some reason.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            I know what you mean but in the end, death is not something you can dress up to soften the blow - a good friend of mine hanged himself last year - how can you dress that up ?

            Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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            • D DerekT P

              Yep! Said it was easy... :) But... why isn't it just "ceased"? Surely deceased should mean un-ceased, i.e. resumed? :~

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              According to Chambers, "cease" and "decease" come from different roots.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Probably the same reason why "flammable" and "inflammable" mean exactly the same thing ... :-D

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                jsc42
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                And 'raise' means 'to lift up' or 'to tear down'. And 'cleave' means 'to separate' or 'to join together'. And 'scissors', 'trousers', 'sheep', 'fish' (plus lots more) are both the same in the singular and the plural. And 'bough', 'cough', 'dough', 'through', 'thorough', 'enough' do not rhyme with each other (they are pronounced 'bow', 'cof', 'doh', 'throo', 'thurer', 'enuf'). English is a language that has evolved / devolved and taken in words from many other languages; it is not a designed-by-committee language.

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                  And 'raise' means 'to lift up' or 'to tear down'. And 'cleave' means 'to separate' or 'to join together'. And 'scissors', 'trousers', 'sheep', 'fish' (plus lots more) are both the same in the singular and the plural. And 'bough', 'cough', 'dough', 'through', 'thorough', 'enough' do not rhyme with each other (they are pronounced 'bow', 'cof', 'doh', 'throo', 'thurer', 'enuf'). English is a language that has evolved / devolved and taken in words from many other languages; it is not a designed-by-committee language.

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                  After writing my previous response, I remembered that there is an old poem. I have found it ...

                  I take it you already know of tough and bough and cough and dough?
                  Some may stumble, but not you, on hiccough, thorough, slough, and through?
                  So now you are ready, perhaps, to learn of less familiar traps?
                  Beware of heard, a dreadful word, that looks like beard, but sounds like bird.
                  And dead, it's said like bed, not bead; for goodness' sake, don't call it deed!
                  Watch out for meat and great and threat. (They rhyme with suite and straight and debt.)
                  A moth is not a moth in mother, nor both in bother, broth in brother.
                  And here is not a match for there, nor dear and fear, for bear and pear.
                  And then there's dose and rose and lose - just look them up - and goose and choose
                  And cork and work and card and ward and font and front and word and sword
                  And do and go, then thwart and cart, come, come! I've hardly made a start.
                  A dreadful language? Why man alive! I've learned to talk it when I was five.
                  And yet to write it, the more I tried, I hadn't learned it at fifty-five.

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                    And 'raise' means 'to lift up' or 'to tear down'. And 'cleave' means 'to separate' or 'to join together'. And 'scissors', 'trousers', 'sheep', 'fish' (plus lots more) are both the same in the singular and the plural. And 'bough', 'cough', 'dough', 'through', 'thorough', 'enough' do not rhyme with each other (they are pronounced 'bow', 'cof', 'doh', 'throo', 'thurer', 'enuf'). English is a language that has evolved / devolved and taken in words from many other languages; it is not a designed-by-committee language.

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                    though the "tear down" word is to "raze" rather than "raise". Which (I assume) is related to "razor"; i.e. cutting it down, removing completely.

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                    • pkfoxP pkfox

                      Just say dead its easier :-D

                      Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                      Pinin' for the fjords. I need to create a document so that is the first line of my obituary.

                      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                      • D DerekT P

                        though the "tear down" word is to "raze" rather than "raise". Which (I assume) is related to "razor"; i.e. cutting it down, removing completely.

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                        My mistake. You are correct. Thank you.

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