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    BernardIE5317
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    I found a link to Mixed Reality Portal on my Start list. I do not know how it got there but it presented an ad to HP VR glasses . The videos were rather impressive/immersive even in 2D . Will we be developing code in a 3D envirnonment . The code can float in front of us and we can cut and paste w/ a swipe of the hand and navigate w/ a mere touch of a finger . Maybe a call tree can be presented in 3D and navigated also .

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      I found a link to Mixed Reality Portal on my Start list. I do not know how it got there but it presented an ad to HP VR glasses . The videos were rather impressive/immersive even in 2D . Will we be developing code in a 3D envirnonment . The code can float in front of us and we can cut and paste w/ a swipe of the hand and navigate w/ a mere touch of a finger . Maybe a call tree can be presented in 3D and navigated also .

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      Peter_in_2780
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      Just don't sneeze...

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        I found a link to Mixed Reality Portal on my Start list. I do not know how it got there but it presented an ad to HP VR glasses . The videos were rather impressive/immersive even in 2D . Will we be developing code in a 3D envirnonment . The code can float in front of us and we can cut and paste w/ a swipe of the hand and navigate w/ a mere touch of a finger . Maybe a call tree can be presented in 3D and navigated also .

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        Daniel Pfeffer
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        This might be useful as a form of documentation and perhaps even as high-level design, but I can't see anyone programming like that.

        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          I found a link to Mixed Reality Portal on my Start list. I do not know how it got there but it presented an ad to HP VR glasses . The videos were rather impressive/immersive even in 2D . Will we be developing code in a 3D envirnonment . The code can float in front of us and we can cut and paste w/ a swipe of the hand and navigate w/ a mere touch of a finger . Maybe a call tree can be presented in 3D and navigated also .

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          DerekT P
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          Why on earth do I want to be waving my hands around (and upsetting the cat perched just in front of my laptop, his hand on my arm) when I can do it with a keypress? (alright, two keys pressed simultaneously by fingers of the same hand). Hardly seems like an "accessible" UI, either... And I certainly don't want it "floating" in front of me. That would result in constant focus changes which give me headaches as it is... No thanks.

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            I found a link to Mixed Reality Portal on my Start list. I do not know how it got there but it presented an ad to HP VR glasses . The videos were rather impressive/immersive even in 2D . Will we be developing code in a 3D envirnonment . The code can float in front of us and we can cut and paste w/ a swipe of the hand and navigate w/ a mere touch of a finger . Maybe a call tree can be presented in 3D and navigated also .

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            This reminds me of the earliest experiments with on-line shopping, where a physical store would be simulated in fake 3D to recreate the shopping experience. It's just not convenient, on-line shopping can be much better than a simulation of real-world shopping. Similarly, although VR can be impressive, just not every activity lends itself to be 'recreated' in VR.

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              This reminds me of the earliest experiments with on-line shopping, where a physical store would be simulated in fake 3D to recreate the shopping experience. It's just not convenient, on-line shopping can be much better than a simulation of real-world shopping. Similarly, although VR can be impressive, just not every activity lends itself to be 'recreated' in VR.

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              MikeCO10
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              Or this... "Meta lost $10 billion on Reality Lab — the division focusing on building the metaverse — in 2021 and more than $9 billion in 2022". I'm not sure why applying VR (or AI or whatever is next) to every aspect of life seems like a good idea to anyone.

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                Or this... "Meta lost $10 billion on Reality Lab — the division focusing on building the metaverse — in 2021 and more than $9 billion in 2022". I'm not sure why applying VR (or AI or whatever is next) to every aspect of life seems like a good idea to anyone.

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                Mark Starr
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                So, I agree that applying AI to everything isn’t good, but for 100 ideas there my be 20 good/80 bad ventures. Learning comes from failures and successes. It’ll be interesting to see which get adopted and what techniques developed from bad ideas go to help further the good ones. :-D

                Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                  So, I agree that applying AI to everything isn’t good, but for 100 ideas there my be 20 good/80 bad ventures. Learning comes from failures and successes. It’ll be interesting to see which get adopted and what techniques developed from bad ideas go to help further the good ones. :-D

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                  MikeCO10
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                  Mark, Yep, I agree. It probably wasn't good on my part to lump AI in with VR. Two very different technologies with very different investments to enter the space. I see AI as being an important aspect of our lives, both personally and professionally. I don't see it replacing us, but it will redefine our jobs in the future. That's a different discussion :)

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                    So, I agree that applying AI to everything isn’t good, but for 100 ideas there my be 20 good/80 bad ventures. Learning comes from failures and successes. It’ll be interesting to see which get adopted and what techniques developed from bad ideas go to help further the good ones. :-D

                    Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                    jschell
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                    Mark Starr wrote:

                    but for 100 ideas there my be 20 good/80 bad ventures.

                    Unless you can provide stats I that I doubt that break down. For example following says 90% of start ups fail 90% Of Startups Fail: Here's What You Need To Know About The 10%[^] Now keep in mind that the 10% succeeding doesn't mean they are wildly successful. It just means they didn't go out of business. Also keep in mind that is all startups (not just tech oriented) and the vast majority do not consist of a new business idea but rather a variation and/or perhaps combination of existing ideas. Another point is that companies (and ideas) do not fail based solely on whether they are a 'good' idea. But rather on many factors.

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                      I found a link to Mixed Reality Portal on my Start list. I do not know how it got there but it presented an ad to HP VR glasses . The videos were rather impressive/immersive even in 2D . Will we be developing code in a 3D envirnonment . The code can float in front of us and we can cut and paste w/ a swipe of the hand and navigate w/ a mere touch of a finger . Maybe a call tree can be presented in 3D and navigated also .

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                      jschell
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                      BernardIE5317 wrote:

                      Will we be developing code in a 3D envirnonment .

                      No. Those sort of idioms are not productive. This is known because other idioms have been tried. Consider the following article What Happens to Your Body When You've Been in Virtual Reality for Too Long[^]

                      "The makers of the most popular VR headsets, the Oculus Rift and HTC Vive, recommend taking "at least a 10 to 15 minute break every 30 minutes, even if you don’t think you need it.""

                      Obviously a reduction of 30% to 50% of actual work means that the productivity increase would have be greater than that.

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                        Why on earth do I want to be waving my hands around (and upsetting the cat perched just in front of my laptop, his hand on my arm) when I can do it with a keypress? (alright, two keys pressed simultaneously by fingers of the same hand). Hardly seems like an "accessible" UI, either... And I certainly don't want it "floating" in front of me. That would result in constant focus changes which give me headaches as it is... No thanks.

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                        Dan Neely
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                        DerekT-P wrote:

                        Why on earth do I want to be waving my hands around (and upsetting the cat perched just in front of my laptop, his hand on my arm) when I can do it with a keypress?

                        It's so when your cat decides to sleep on the laptop keyboard/touchpadheating pad you can have your arms wave around without bothering the cat.

                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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