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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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    den2k88
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    It sums up my experience so far. The best is always when the customers give strict but poorly worded requirements and then isn't capable of explaining what they actually want.

    GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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      Lost User
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      Thanks for confirming that I have been doing it right all these years. :laugh:

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      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

        Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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        fgs1963
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        Quote:

        We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

        ~ Konstantin Josef Jireček - Clickety[^]

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          Quote:

          We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

          ~ Konstantin Josef Jireček - Clickety[^]

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          Mike Hankey
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          That's an old Marine Corps saying. If I remember it was on a sign as you were coming into Da Nang.

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            That's an old Marine Corps saying. If I remember it was on a sign as you were coming into Da Nang.

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            OriginalGriff
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            I suspect they stole it - possibly from Genghis Khan's troops. :-D

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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              Slacker007
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              "You're an Engineer, Harry!"

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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                Amarnath S
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                Heard during my college day: Engineer is one who rides an engine.

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                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                  Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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                  Matthew Dennis
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                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge

                  ... to create systems that work in unreliable environments designed and install by sadistic idiots.

                  "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

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                    It sums up my experience so far. The best is always when the customers give strict but poorly worded requirements and then isn't capable of explaining what they actually want.

                    GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                    Rich Leyshon
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                    I was asked, a few years ago, to do a little job not connected to what I was meant to be doing. Anyway, this little prog would take some info from a draughtsman then work out what components would be required, draw plans for the builders to follow and generate an order form for stores. I produced EXACTLY what was requested. The "boss"* then passed it to a different "project manager" who changed the spec. I again delivered exactly what was asked for. * a man with no perceivable skill in any field other than his wise choice of having the MD as a father. Repeat the above a few times. Every "project manager" would have different features they wanted (and didn't want) to see. By this stage, whenever some feature was no longer required, I kept it in there out of sight, knowing the next person would ask for it back. This went on for about a month with all requests for a final, agreed, WRITTEN DOWN spec completely ignored and culminated with the "boss" describing it as "crap software."

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                      #Engineer's Lament

                      I'm not allowed to run the train The whistle I can't blow… I'm not allowed to say how far The railroad cars can go. I'm not allowed to shoot off steam, Nor even clang the bell… But let the damn train jump the track And see who catches Hell!

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I suspect they stole it - possibly from Genghis Khan's troops. :-D

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                        Daniel Pfeffer
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                        ... who stole it from Ceasar's legions, who stole it from the Etruscans, who stole it from the Greeks, who stole it from the Trojans...

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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                          Lost User
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                          Mike Hankey wrote:

                          See also Wizard, Magician

                          For outsiders, it often is. Now, for my next trick I need a volunteer. Anyone?

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                            Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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                            Roger Wright
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                            I resemble that remark! :laugh: One of my favorite shirts has on the front, "Engineering: Solving Problems You Didn't Know You Had In Ways You Can't Understand." Most people have never seen it, since the vast majority have so short an attention span that they won't read anything longer than 4 (short) words. :sigh:

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                              I resemble that remark! :laugh: One of my favorite shirts has on the front, "Engineering: Solving Problems You Didn't Know You Had In Ways You Can't Understand." Most people have never seen it, since the vast majority have so short an attention span that they won't read anything longer than 4 (short) words. :sigh:

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                              Mike Hankey
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                              Roger Wright wrote:

                              "Engineering: Solving Problems You Didn't Know You Had In Ways You Can't Understand."

                              :thumbsup:

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                                #Engineer's Lament

                                I'm not allowed to run the train The whistle I can't blow… I'm not allowed to say how far The railroad cars can go. I'm not allowed to shoot off steam, Nor even clang the bell… But let the damn train jump the track And see who catches Hell!

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                jmaida
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                                :-D sounds like a country western song.

                                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                  Roger Wright wrote:

                                  "Engineering: Solving Problems You Didn't Know You Had In Ways You Can't Understand."

                                  :thumbsup:

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                                  jmaida
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                                  There are many fields of medicine such as dentistry where engineering a big part of the job. They build bridges, too.

                                  "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                    Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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                                    b4blue
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                                    A scientist, without an engineer, is just an artist... scrabbling on paper.

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                                      I was asked, a few years ago, to do a little job not connected to what I was meant to be doing. Anyway, this little prog would take some info from a draughtsman then work out what components would be required, draw plans for the builders to follow and generate an order form for stores. I produced EXACTLY what was requested. The "boss"* then passed it to a different "project manager" who changed the spec. I again delivered exactly what was asked for. * a man with no perceivable skill in any field other than his wise choice of having the MD as a father. Repeat the above a few times. Every "project manager" would have different features they wanted (and didn't want) to see. By this stage, whenever some feature was no longer required, I kept it in there out of sight, knowing the next person would ask for it back. This went on for about a month with all requests for a final, agreed, WRITTEN DOWN spec completely ignored and culminated with the "boss" describing it as "crap software."

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                                      den2k88
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                                      I work in automotive so requirements are set in stone, the issue is that it's a highly tiered sector with many consultants, so the person who manages the actual development team usually knows little to nothing about automotive, development and often who and where they are.

                                      GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                        Noun (en-jun-neer) Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also Wizard, Magician

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                                        Wizard of Sleeves
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                                        Mike Hankey wrote:

                                        See also Wizard, Magician

                                        Funny you should mention that.

                                        Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth. To err is human, to arr is pirate.

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                                        • B b4blue

                                          A scientist, without an engineer, is just an artist... scrabbling on paper.

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                                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                                          I disagree. You ignore the part that theoreticians have to play in fields such as physics.

                                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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