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    If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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      If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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      I tried asking ChatGPT this, but it's at capacity right now.

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        I tried asking ChatGPT this, but it's at capacity right now.

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        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

        it's at capacity right now.

        Too many school kids getting the wrong answer ... :-D

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          If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

          "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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          Yes. But so do humans, and not just for obscure stuff. 40 countries help Turkey; 3 countries help Syria. What do you think "religion" is? Ghosts, Angels? Ask ChatGPT for me which religion is "correct" and post me the answer :D If you want a real riot, ask it who blew up the gaslines to Germany.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            Yes. But so do humans, and not just for obscure stuff. 40 countries help Turkey; 3 countries help Syria. What do you think "religion" is? Ghosts, Angels? Ask ChatGPT for me which religion is "correct" and post me the answer :D If you want a real riot, ask it who blew up the gaslines to Germany.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            Ask ChatGPT "Who runs Barter Town?"

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              If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

              "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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              Ask ChatGPT "Who run Barter Town?"

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                Ask ChatGPT "Who run Barter Town?"

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                  If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

                  "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                  A definite maybe?

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                    If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                    Or something about goats.

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                      If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

                      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                      +++++ Out of cheese error +++++ (Hex, Discworld)

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                        Ask ChatGPT "Who run Barter Town?"

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                        The next war, is fought by developers and hardware experts. And all it need to do is blow up one factory, and we loose 10 years of development. ONE factory, to throw us back 10 years. ASML. Right now they run Barter town, but then, we already know how that one ends :)

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

                          "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                          Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                          If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer,...

                          Addressing that seriously...no. If it is that obscure then "right" is no longer meaningful because no one would ask it. And no one would care if it was wrong anyways.

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                            If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

                            "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                            Yes I think so, there is this metaphor of a stochastic parrot [https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3442188.3445922\](https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3442188.3445922) And there is also a discussion about this metaphor on Twitter ... :sigh:

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                              I tried asking ChatGPT this, but it's at capacity right now.

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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              I tried asking ChatGPT this, but it's at capacity right now.

                              It said this:

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                              No, AI would not respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer. AI systems are designed to provide accurate and reliable answers, and they would not be programmed to provide wrong answers. AI systems are programmed to use algorithms to analyze data and provide the most accurate answer possible.

                              Heh, and I believe it? Nope!

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                                If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

                                "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                Yes. False answers are much harder to correct than to take a true answer and corrupt it to a false one that everyone believes.

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                                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                  I tried asking ChatGPT this, but it's at capacity right now.

                                  It said this:

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                                  No, AI would not respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer. AI systems are designed to provide accurate and reliable answers, and they would not be programmed to provide wrong answers. AI systems are programmed to use algorithms to analyze data and provide the most accurate answer possible.

                                  Heh, and I believe it? Nope!

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                                  It’s good at sales at least. But we know how that goes. =D

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                                    If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

                                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                    There are no answers anywhere online. There are only likely and unlikely hypothesis. So, basically, it doesn't matter. A wrong answer is still an hypothesis worth testing.

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                                      If there was an obscure question that had one (wrong) answer, and people (somehow) started asking that same question, would AI respond with the wrong answer until it became "the" answer?

                                      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                      Is that why ChatGPT keeps claiming 6 × 9 == 42? :-D


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                                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                        The next war, is fought by developers and hardware experts. And all it need to do is blow up one factory, and we loose 10 years of development. ONE factory, to throw us back 10 years. ASML. Right now they run Barter town, but then, we already know how that one ends :)

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        Master Blaster run Bartertown. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (1985) - Master Blaster Scene (3/9) | Movieclips - YouTube[^]

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                                          Master Blaster run Bartertown. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (1985) - Master Blaster Scene (3/9) | Movieclips - YouTube[^]

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