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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I think you are supposed to set your phone to be a WiFi hotspot, then use that - I do that for my Surface when I need it rather than use the possibly unsafe public WiFi. Or stick your SIM in the Chromebook. I'd still stick with an Android or Windows tablet anyway. :-D

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    I do the same with my Surface ( tether to my phones hotspot ) as unlimited phone data is affordable these days.

    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      I do the same with my Surface ( tether to my phones hotspot ) as unlimited phone data is affordable these days.

      Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      I don't get unlimited data, but I get 7GB pcm which rolls over the unused to the following month. Never even got close to the limit even with some long trips - costs £10 pcm and includes unlimited calls and texts to mobile and landline.

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I don't get unlimited data, but I get 7GB pcm which rolls over the unused to the following month. Never even got close to the limit even with some long trips - costs £10 pcm and includes unlimited calls and texts to mobile and landline.

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        den2k88
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        I get 120 GB with 7€ and unlimited calls. Texts are no longer used since Whatsapp is the de facto standard.

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        • D David ONeil

          Played with a Chromebook out in the middle of nowhere, with no internet access. The calculator app couldn't even calculate! Just a blank window. :doh: :doh: :doh: Glad I've never bought one.

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          trønderen
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          I'm old enough to remember when we got our first modems so we could make a long-distance call to the bulletin board, at something like 30 cents a minute, so the PC was set up to connect, deliver all outgoing (pre-written) messages to other individual users and discussion groups, copy all incoming mails and discussion entries, and take down the connection, all in one go with no stop to take manual input. Nevertheless, the PC was an immensely useful tool, even in those days. Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular. A similar 'Height of Stupidity' case: I left my house for a three year project, and rented out my house during that period. Land line phone was still common in those days. I wanted to offer the tenants my modem and phone, and asked the phone company to change the name of the subscriber. They could send an installer to do that, for a price of 1500 NOK (roughly 150 Euro/USD). No, I said, I am not requesting any change of the installation - just a different name on the bill! Even the street address is unchanged! But they couldn't do that. To change the identity of the subscriber mandated that an installer be sent to perform the required installation changes, even if there were none, at the stated NOK 1500 cost. This was in the early 1990s, mobile phones becoming more common, so I told the phone company to go su** d***, and terminated my contract with them.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I don't get unlimited data, but I get 7GB pcm which rolls over the unused to the following month. Never even got close to the limit even with some long trips - costs £10 pcm and includes unlimited calls and texts to mobile and landline.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            I'm sim only with vodafone unlimited everything £17 pm - it's come in handy when I've had broadband outages

            Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              I'm sim only with vodafone unlimited everything £17 pm - it's come in handy when I've had broadband outages

              Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              OriginalGriff
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              Sim only with Vodafone, but using a "big value bundle" at £10 pcm.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • D David ONeil

                Played with a Chromebook out in the middle of nowhere, with no internet access. The calculator app couldn't even calculate! Just a blank window. :doh: :doh: :doh: Glad I've never bought one.

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                My issue is that Google Maps (Android phone) can't save a dropped pin (or at least can't label the pin) when I'm out in the desert away from service. It boggles the mind.

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                • T trønderen

                  I'm old enough to remember when we got our first modems so we could make a long-distance call to the bulletin board, at something like 30 cents a minute, so the PC was set up to connect, deliver all outgoing (pre-written) messages to other individual users and discussion groups, copy all incoming mails and discussion entries, and take down the connection, all in one go with no stop to take manual input. Nevertheless, the PC was an immensely useful tool, even in those days. Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular. A similar 'Height of Stupidity' case: I left my house for a three year project, and rented out my house during that period. Land line phone was still common in those days. I wanted to offer the tenants my modem and phone, and asked the phone company to change the name of the subscriber. They could send an installer to do that, for a price of 1500 NOK (roughly 150 Euro/USD). No, I said, I am not requesting any change of the installation - just a different name on the bill! Even the street address is unchanged! But they couldn't do that. To change the identity of the subscriber mandated that an installer be sent to perform the required installation changes, even if there were none, at the stated NOK 1500 cost. This was in the early 1990s, mobile phones becoming more common, so I told the phone company to go su** d***, and terminated my contract with them.

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                  dandy72
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                  trønderen wrote:

                  Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular.

                  "Offline", to them, means there's an outage and it should be back soon[*]. It's not a normal state of things. [*] and it better be, or they start showing withdrawal symptoms within 8 minutes. There's an entire generation of people now who simply don't know what to do with themselves if there's no internet. I suspect that come the apocalypse, they'll be the first to go.

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                    I'm old enough to remember when we got our first modems so we could make a long-distance call to the bulletin board, at something like 30 cents a minute, so the PC was set up to connect, deliver all outgoing (pre-written) messages to other individual users and discussion groups, copy all incoming mails and discussion entries, and take down the connection, all in one go with no stop to take manual input. Nevertheless, the PC was an immensely useful tool, even in those days. Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular. A similar 'Height of Stupidity' case: I left my house for a three year project, and rented out my house during that period. Land line phone was still common in those days. I wanted to offer the tenants my modem and phone, and asked the phone company to change the name of the subscriber. They could send an installer to do that, for a price of 1500 NOK (roughly 150 Euro/USD). No, I said, I am not requesting any change of the installation - just a different name on the bill! Even the street address is unchanged! But they couldn't do that. To change the identity of the subscriber mandated that an installer be sent to perform the required installation changes, even if there were none, at the stated NOK 1500 cost. This was in the early 1990s, mobile phones becoming more common, so I told the phone company to go su** d***, and terminated my contract with them.

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                    Andreas Saurwein
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                    Nothing like the good old Fido network. :laugh:


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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      I think you are supposed to set your phone to be a WiFi hotspot, then use that - I do that for my Surface when I need it rather than use the possibly unsafe public WiFi. Or stick your SIM in the Chromebook. I'd still stick with an Android or Windows tablet anyway. :-D

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      David ONeil
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                      Good luck doing that around Cut Bank Montana! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Probably drove close to a 100 mile stretch without any service yesterday.

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                        trønderen wrote:

                        Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular.

                        "Offline", to them, means there's an outage and it should be back soon[*]. It's not a normal state of things. [*] and it better be, or they start showing withdrawal symptoms within 8 minutes. There's an entire generation of people now who simply don't know what to do with themselves if there's no internet. I suspect that come the apocalypse, they'll be the first to go.

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                        Phil Benson
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                        dandy72 wrote:

                        suspect that come the apocalypse, they'll be the first to go.

                        Something like "There Is a Rainbow Behind Every Dark Cloud"?

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          I think you are supposed to set your phone to be a WiFi hotspot, then use that - I do that for my Surface when I need it rather than use the possibly unsafe public WiFi. Or stick your SIM in the Chromebook. I'd still stick with an Android or Windows tablet anyway. :-D

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          jschell
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                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          I think you are supposed to set your phone to be a WiFi hotspot

                          Doesn't the "the middle of nowhere" also preclude your phone?

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                            trønderen wrote:

                            Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular.

                            "Offline", to them, means there's an outage and it should be back soon[*]. It's not a normal state of things. [*] and it better be, or they start showing withdrawal symptoms within 8 minutes. There's an entire generation of people now who simply don't know what to do with themselves if there's no internet. I suspect that come the apocalypse, they'll be the first to go.

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                            dandy72 wrote:

                            There's an entire generation of people now who

                            But fortunately in the modern world they can still rape, pillage and burn. At least if you sign up for the right tourist stop.

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                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              I think you are supposed to set your phone to be a WiFi hotspot

                              Doesn't the "the middle of nowhere" also preclude your phone?

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                              There is pretty much nowhere in the UK that you can't get some signal, and even in largely uninhabited wastelands like Oz they have satellite phones for where you can't get cell coverage.

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                dandy72 wrote:

                                There's an entire generation of people now who

                                But fortunately in the modern world they can still rape, pillage and burn. At least if you sign up for the right tourist stop.

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                                jschell wrote:

                                But fortunately in the modern world they can still rape, pillage and burn

                                I've always believed the preppers are also gonna be some of the first to go, killed by the rest of the population who want their stuff. Jeez, that quickly took a dark turn. :-)

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                                  jschell wrote:

                                  But fortunately in the modern world they can still rape, pillage and burn

                                  I've always believed the preppers are also gonna be some of the first to go, killed by the rest of the population who want their stuff. Jeez, that quickly took a dark turn. :-)

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                                  Along that same dark vein... Back during the Y2K panic I worked with a guy that was convinced it would be the end of modern civilization. He gave talks at various survivalist meetings about how it would happen. He had drums of kerosene and a generator that could run on that, gasoline or diesel, extra food, the whole nine yards. I once asked him how many guns he had. I got a blank look back. I said I think I know where I'm going for New Year's Eve this year. His response was a nervous chuckle. I'd guess he went out and got a few but I don't know for sure.

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                                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                                    I do the same with my Surface ( tether to my phones hotspot ) as unlimited phone data is affordable these days.

                                    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                    Oh, for the days when I had unlimited cell data.

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                                    A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
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                                      I'm old enough to remember when we got our first modems so we could make a long-distance call to the bulletin board, at something like 30 cents a minute, so the PC was set up to connect, deliver all outgoing (pre-written) messages to other individual users and discussion groups, copy all incoming mails and discussion entries, and take down the connection, all in one go with no stop to take manual input. Nevertheless, the PC was an immensely useful tool, even in those days. Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular. A similar 'Height of Stupidity' case: I left my house for a three year project, and rented out my house during that period. Land line phone was still common in those days. I wanted to offer the tenants my modem and phone, and asked the phone company to change the name of the subscriber. They could send an installer to do that, for a price of 1500 NOK (roughly 150 Euro/USD). No, I said, I am not requesting any change of the installation - just a different name on the bill! Even the street address is unchanged! But they couldn't do that. To change the identity of the subscriber mandated that an installer be sent to perform the required installation changes, even if there were none, at the stated NOK 1500 cost. This was in the early 1990s, mobile phones becoming more common, so I told the phone company to go su** d***, and terminated my contract with them.

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                                      TNCaver
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                                      FidoNet! The original worldwide email system. Those were the days.

                                      There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
                                         - Thomas Sowell

                                      A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        There is pretty much nowhere in the UK that you can't get some signal, and even in largely uninhabited wastelands like Oz they have satellite phones for where you can't get cell coverage.

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        they have satellite phones

                                        And you REALLY do not want to tether a device to one of those. The cost used to be outrageous, not sure what it is now days.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          I don't get unlimited data, but I get 7GB pcm which rolls over the unused to the following month. Never even got close to the limit even with some long trips - costs £10 pcm and includes unlimited calls and texts to mobile and landline.

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                          Paul Sanders the other one
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                                          Just to say, £10 pcm gets you 20GB with Giff Gaff, and no contract. IIRC, Smarty is even better but I don't know how good the coverage is.

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