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  • R Richard Deeming

    Rage wrote:

    he password manager in the browser are disabled at work, for security reasons

    Oh dear - it's one of those companies, is it? :sigh:


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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    Rage
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    It is worse than you may think. It is one of those who think they can, but actually cannot.

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      ... as a standard step in their problem analysis tree. :~ Useless to solve the problem, BUT now have to search for all settings and all passwords for all my websites X| :(( She was to quick for me to prevent it. I hate remote support. /edit: I remembered my CP password :-)

      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      Slacker007
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      As Richard already mentioned, you should be using a password manager. My company encourages and authorizes use of a few different ones. I would seriously consider not working for a company that is STUPID enough not to encourage the use of password managers for their employees.

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        ... as a standard step in their problem analysis tree. :~ Useless to solve the problem, BUT now have to search for all settings and all passwords for all my websites X| :(( She was to quick for me to prevent it. I hate remote support. /edit: I remembered my CP password :-)

        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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        Lost User
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        Tx for the support!

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          Tx for the support!

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          Rage
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          Yes, indeed.

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          • R Rage

            It is worse than you may think. It is one of those who think they can, but actually cannot.

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            Nelek
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            Rage wrote:

            It is one of those who think they can, but actually cannot.

            Is that not the "business as usual"? :sigh:

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            • R Richard Deeming

              Rage wrote:

              he password manager in the browser are disabled at work, for security reasons

              Oh dear - it's one of those companies, is it? :sigh:


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              dandy72
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              Richard Deeming wrote:

              it's one of those companies, is it?

              They're not entirely wrong. Look at the current LastPass fiasco. Very reputable company/product/service, until "that" happened. Sooner or later it happens to all of 'em. My passwords are staying offline, and certainly are NOT auto-syncing across devices.

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                Richard Deeming wrote:

                it's one of those companies, is it?

                They're not entirely wrong. Look at the current LastPass fiasco. Very reputable company/product/service, until "that" happened. Sooner or later it happens to all of 'em. My passwords are staying offline, and certainly are NOT auto-syncing across devices.

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                Daniel Pfeffer
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                dandy72 wrote:

                My passwords are staying offline, and certainly are NOT auto-syncing across devices.

                The only place I keep my passwords is between my ears. If I lose my head, I certainly won't need my passwords anymore. :-\

                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                  dandy72 wrote:

                  My passwords are staying offline, and certainly are NOT auto-syncing across devices.

                  The only place I keep my passwords is between my ears. If I lose my head, I certainly won't need my passwords anymore. :-\

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  dandy72
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                  Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                  The only place I keep my passwords is between my ears.

                  Then: a) you're not managing many passwords b) you're re-using them in multiple locations c) they're not very complex d) you have impossibly great memory I'd love to say you have the best solution, but reality dictates this is impractical.

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                    Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                    The only place I keep my passwords is between my ears.

                    Then: a) you're not managing many passwords b) you're re-using them in multiple locations c) they're not very complex d) you have impossibly great memory I'd love to say you have the best solution, but reality dictates this is impractical.

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                    rnbergren
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                    slightly disagree, there are methods to generation of passwords that would enable most of the passwords to be different and yet easily remembered by a human yet fairly difficult to guess or deconstruct. I can almost always type in my password to various sites on the first time almost everytime for each site. There are exceptions and in those. The reset/email me the password option works wonderfully.

                    To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                    • R rnbergren

                      slightly disagree, there are methods to generation of passwords that would enable most of the passwords to be different and yet easily remembered by a human yet fairly difficult to guess or deconstruct. I can almost always type in my password to various sites on the first time almost everytime for each site. There are exceptions and in those. The reset/email me the password option works wonderfully.

                      To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                      dandy72
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                      Yes, there are methods to create long/complex passwords that you can remember (or work out in your head), but that doesn't scale, in the sense that if you have to have dozens of them, you won't remember them, unless there's some repetition or a pattern.

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                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                        dandy72 wrote:

                        My passwords are staying offline, and certainly are NOT auto-syncing across devices.

                        The only place I keep my passwords is between my ears. If I lose my head, I certainly won't need my passwords anymore. :-\

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        jmaida
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                        That may diminish with age, but secure.

                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                        • D dandy72

                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                          it's one of those companies, is it?

                          They're not entirely wrong. Look at the current LastPass fiasco. Very reputable company/product/service, until "that" happened. Sooner or later it happens to all of 'em. My passwords are staying offline, and certainly are NOT auto-syncing across devices.

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                          Richard Deeming
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                          dandy72 wrote:

                          Look at the current LastPass fiasco. Very reputable company/product/service, until "that" happened.

                          And yet using a password manager so you can have different, secure, randomly-generated passwords for each site you use is still a better option than using easy-to-remember passwords, or reusing the same password across different sites.

                          dandy72 wrote:

                          Sooner or later it happens to all of 'em.

                          Which is why it's preferable to chose a company that's openly admitted to having a security breach than one that keeps such breaches secret - or worse, doesn't even know that they've been breached yet. :)


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                            Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                            The only place I keep my passwords is between my ears.

                            Then: a) you're not managing many passwords b) you're re-using them in multiple locations c) they're not very complex d) you have impossibly great memory I'd love to say you have the best solution, but reality dictates this is impractical.

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            I use a "generating function" for passwords, so all I really need to remember is the function. This may not be as hard to guess as a 16-character random string, but is good enough for any practical purpose. For that matter, the only accounts that require high security are the financial and medical accounts. If someone were (for example) to break into my Code Project account, what real damage would be done to me?

                            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                            • R Richard Deeming

                              dandy72 wrote:

                              Look at the current LastPass fiasco. Very reputable company/product/service, until "that" happened.

                              And yet using a password manager so you can have different, secure, randomly-generated passwords for each site you use is still a better option than using easy-to-remember passwords, or reusing the same password across different sites.

                              dandy72 wrote:

                              Sooner or later it happens to all of 'em.

                              Which is why it's preferable to chose a company that's openly admitted to having a security breach than one that keeps such breaches secret - or worse, doesn't even know that they've been breached yet. :)


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                              dandy72
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                              Richard Deeming wrote:

                              And yet using a password manager so you can have different, secure, randomly-generated passwords for each site you use is still a better option than using easy-to-remember passwords, or reusing the same password across different sites.

                              I certainly was not suggesting the latter. Generating strong passwords is one function of a good password manager.

                              Richard Deeming wrote:

                              Which is why it's preferable to chose a company that's openly admitted to having a security breach than one that keeps such breaches secret - or worse, doesn't even know that they've been breached yet.

                              Also agreed. As far as I'm concerned, password managers are a great idea. They're a must. Having one send its data, even encrypted (obviously) to a central repository...not so much. Personally, convenience be damned, I'm not having any password manager sync across devices if it has to go across the internet to do so. The hackers will attack the big juicy target incessantly. Myself, at home, behind my NAT router? As laughable as a consumer router is, there's simply much less to be gained.

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                              • J jmaida

                                That may diminish with age, but secure.

                                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                dandy72
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                                jmaida wrote:

                                secure.

                                [Obligatory XKCD](https://xkcd.com/538/)

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                                • D dandy72

                                  jmaida wrote:

                                  secure.

                                  [Obligatory XKCD](https://xkcd.com/538/)

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                                  jmaida
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                                  :) yup. Even that might not work. I have forgotten passwords no one can beat out of me.

                                  "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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