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  • S Slow Eddie

    Of all of the new languages and frameworks that pop up every day, I'd like to know how many developers actually use them, other than the people who created them. :confused:

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    dandy72
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    Slow Eddie wrote:

    how many developers actually use them, other than the people who created them

    For each one, that pops up every day? Good luck getting those figures. It's not like you can even assume that because something's made by a large company, that it's not at risk of being a dead end either. There was a discussion here just a few days ago about projects that have ended up at [Killed by Google](https://killedbygoogle.com/). Personally I wouldn't even write a document using Google docs; that's as much trust in them as I have left, at this point. I tend not to jump on anything new until it has simmered for a few years, is very much active, and has a large community behind it. I'm looking at a release date table right now, and based on that - .NET was at v3.5 before I moved over from C++. I've finally just started putting together my first small prototype app using .NET Core recently, and judging from discussions here and elsewhere on its WinForms support, I'm glad I waited this long. I never bought into WPF, and based on recent stories, I'm less convinced than ever as to whether I should commit anything to it or not. Coding for the web? I hope to retire before I have no choice but to start doing that.

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    • S Slow Eddie

      Of all of the new languages and frameworks that pop up every day, I'd like to know how many developers actually use them, other than the people who created them. :confused:

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      Marc Clifton
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      Slow Eddie wrote:

      I'd like to know how many developers actually use them

      What would be interesting is to group by age. 16 to 25: 90% 25 to 35: 10% > 35: 0%

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      • S Slow Eddie

        Of all of the new languages and frameworks that pop up every day, I'd like to know how many developers actually use them, other than the people who created them. :confused:

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        Lost User
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        My last couple of projects had book content and led to a "content reading" framework; which I rolled myself. I find that's usually the case; if you want to make progress instead of bending your ideas to a framework. So, no, the only framweork I use is the .NET framework. (And no 3rd parties)

        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        • S Single Step Debugger

          I'm currently using Blazor. So far so good.

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          Graeme_Grant
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          Reminds me of Silverlight ... but I do enjoy Blazor.

          Graeme


          "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

          “I fear not the man who has practised 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practised one kick 10,000 times.” - Bruce Lee.

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          • Graeme_GrantG Graeme_Grant

            Reminds me of Silverlight ... but I do enjoy Blazor.

            Graeme


            "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            :sigh: I loved Silverlight, we used it for 20+ bank applications accessed from all over the world, easy to deploy, low bandwidth, wonderful stuff. I still have not forgiven MS for trashing it!

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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            • M Mycroft Holmes

              :sigh: I loved Silverlight, we used it for 20+ bank applications accessed from all over the world, easy to deploy, low bandwidth, wonderful stuff. I still have not forgiven MS for trashing it!

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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              Graeme_Grant
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              Same... but ... the death of Silverlight was the direction by browsers away from embedded objects... killed off flash too.

              Graeme


              "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

              “I fear not the man who has practised 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practised one kick 10,000 times.” - Bruce Lee.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Slow Eddie wrote:

                I'd like to know how many developers actually use them

                What would be interesting is to group by age. 16 to 25: 90% 25 to 35: 10% > 35: 0%

                Latest Article:
                SVG Grids: Squares, Triangles, Hexagons with scrolling, sprites and simple animation examples

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                16 to 25: 90% 25 to 35: 10% > 35: 0%

                I would upvote this twice if I could.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Slow Eddie wrote:

                  I'd like to know how many developers actually use them

                  What would be interesting is to group by age. 16 to 25: 90% 25 to 35: 10% > 35: 0%

                  Latest Article:
                  SVG Grids: Squares, Triangles, Hexagons with scrolling, sprites and simple animation examples

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                  Slow Eddie
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                  I am in the > 35 segment, and you are entirely correct!

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                  • Graeme_GrantG Graeme_Grant

                    Reminds me of Silverlight ... but I do enjoy Blazor.

                    Graeme


                    "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                    Single Step Debugger
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                    Only if you use web assemblies. And I don't. Also, switching between rich client and server application is not that painful even for an existing project. I think Microsoft has learned their lessons with Silverlight.

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                      Slow Eddie wrote:

                      how many developers actually use them, other than the people who created them

                      For each one, that pops up every day? Good luck getting those figures. It's not like you can even assume that because something's made by a large company, that it's not at risk of being a dead end either. There was a discussion here just a few days ago about projects that have ended up at [Killed by Google](https://killedbygoogle.com/). Personally I wouldn't even write a document using Google docs; that's as much trust in them as I have left, at this point. I tend not to jump on anything new until it has simmered for a few years, is very much active, and has a large community behind it. I'm looking at a release date table right now, and based on that - .NET was at v3.5 before I moved over from C++. I've finally just started putting together my first small prototype app using .NET Core recently, and judging from discussions here and elsewhere on its WinForms support, I'm glad I waited this long. I never bought into WPF, and based on recent stories, I'm less convinced than ever as to whether I should commit anything to it or not. Coding for the web? I hope to retire before I have no choice but to start doing that.

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                      jschell
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                      dandy72 wrote:

                      I tend not to jump on anything new until it has simmered for a few years

                      Those that live on the bleeding edge should be prepared to bleed.

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                      • S Single Step Debugger

                        Only if you use web assemblies. And I don't. Also, switching between rich client and server application is not that painful even for an existing project. I think Microsoft has learned their lessons with Silverlight.

                        Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                        Graeme_Grant
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                        Silverlight was very close to WPF. Uno[^] is the modern Silverlight. Blazor United[^] will be very interesting... Can't wait to see a version beyond the current prototype.

                        Graeme


                        "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

                        “I fear not the man who has practised 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practised one kick 10,000 times.” - Bruce Lee.

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                        • J jschell

                          dandy72 wrote:

                          I tend not to jump on anything new until it has simmered for a few years

                          Those that live on the bleeding edge should be prepared to bleed.

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                          dandy72
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                          Exactly. There's only so much bleeding I'm willing to put myself through.

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