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  • D Daniel Pfeffer

    I do a weekly backup of all computers in my home network. The stuff in my development folder is backed up daily. With that setup, I am reasonably certain to lose only less than one day's work. (Of course, it's always possible that my backup server AND my computer will go south simultaneously... :~ )

    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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    Cp Coder
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    Of course, it's always possible that my backup server AND my computer will go south simultaneously

    Which is why I keep more than one backup!

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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    • C Cp Coder

      On my desktop I have two NVMe drives: One for the system and the other for data (called my D: drive). Suddenly when I turned the machine on this morning Windows reported that the D drive was missing - I had no access to any of my data. Now, I keep my data backed up to an external drive, but my very latest work of the last couple of days was not yet backed up. So I feared my very latest emails and work on Kotlin projects may have been lost. :omg: I restarted the machine in the hope the D drive will become visible again, but no cigar. The D drive appeared stone dead! As a last resort I restored the system drive to a Macrium image taken just yesterday, with little hope that that will recover access to the D drive. But it worked! Now my D drive is visible again! :~ But I have this nagging feeling of impending doom, like there is a bad moon rising! What if the D drive is about to fail permanently? So I immediately hooked up an external empty 1 TB drive and started backing up all data that I cannot afford to lose! I will also order a spare NVMe drive to keep just in case. Once I have fully backed up ALL data to the external drive, I will be at peace again! :)

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      Lost User
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      That's OK ... I replaced a breaker (several times) because I missed the ground fault breaker. Or the keyboard came unplugged. Or the cat jiggled the HDMI cable and the monitor went dead ...

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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      • C Cp Coder

        I have a few high capacity flash drives stored at a family member's address.

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        Lost User
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        You've finally given me a use for my safety deposit box! (Out of sight, out of mind).

        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        • C Cp Coder

          On my desktop I have two NVMe drives: One for the system and the other for data (called my D: drive). Suddenly when I turned the machine on this morning Windows reported that the D drive was missing - I had no access to any of my data. Now, I keep my data backed up to an external drive, but my very latest work of the last couple of days was not yet backed up. So I feared my very latest emails and work on Kotlin projects may have been lost. :omg: I restarted the machine in the hope the D drive will become visible again, but no cigar. The D drive appeared stone dead! As a last resort I restored the system drive to a Macrium image taken just yesterday, with little hope that that will recover access to the D drive. But it worked! Now my D drive is visible again! :~ But I have this nagging feeling of impending doom, like there is a bad moon rising! What if the D drive is about to fail permanently? So I immediately hooked up an external empty 1 TB drive and started backing up all data that I cannot afford to lose! I will also order a spare NVMe drive to keep just in case. Once I have fully backed up ALL data to the external drive, I will be at peace again! :)

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          jmaida
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          I am having almost same situation. My system is a little over a year old. Drive C is my NVE SSD drive. Drive D is 2TB HDD sata drive. Your symptoms sound very much like mine and I did the same preventative steps. Even though D is currently working, I ordered a replacement for it (not expensive). I'll swap it out and use the old drive as second backup (I had sata USB connector to allow it become an external drive). My experience is that once a drive starts acting up do something quick. Hopefully it's just the drive and not some controller issue. BTW I use HDDScan to give me drive temperature readings (not sure how accurate but that drive sometimes runs hot 40+C) Anyway, good luck.

          "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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            You've finally given me a use for my safety deposit box! (Out of sight, out of mind).

            "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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            You've finally given me a use for my safety deposit box!

            You mean apart from the millions you have stashed there? :-D

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              I am having almost same situation. My system is a little over a year old. Drive C is my NVE SSD drive. Drive D is 2TB HDD sata drive. Your symptoms sound very much like mine and I did the same preventative steps. Even though D is currently working, I ordered a replacement for it (not expensive). I'll swap it out and use the old drive as second backup (I had sata USB connector to allow it become an external drive). My experience is that once a drive starts acting up do something quick. Hopefully it's just the drive and not some controller issue. BTW I use HDDScan to give me drive temperature readings (not sure how accurate but that drive sometimes runs hot 40+C) Anyway, good luck.

              "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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              Cp Coder
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              Thanks! But it is a Samsung drive and I ran Samsung Magician software to check it out. It found nothing wrong, but still I don't trust it! :confused:

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                Thanks! But it is a Samsung drive and I ran Samsung Magician software to check it out. It found nothing wrong, but still I don't trust it! :confused:

                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                jmaida
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                Mine is Seagate. I have had good luck with this brand, but I still don't trust this drive either. Just got my replacement 5 mins ago.

                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                • C Cp Coder

                  On my desktop I have two NVMe drives: One for the system and the other for data (called my D: drive). Suddenly when I turned the machine on this morning Windows reported that the D drive was missing - I had no access to any of my data. Now, I keep my data backed up to an external drive, but my very latest work of the last couple of days was not yet backed up. So I feared my very latest emails and work on Kotlin projects may have been lost. :omg: I restarted the machine in the hope the D drive will become visible again, but no cigar. The D drive appeared stone dead! As a last resort I restored the system drive to a Macrium image taken just yesterday, with little hope that that will recover access to the D drive. But it worked! Now my D drive is visible again! :~ But I have this nagging feeling of impending doom, like there is a bad moon rising! What if the D drive is about to fail permanently? So I immediately hooked up an external empty 1 TB drive and started backing up all data that I cannot afford to lose! I will also order a spare NVMe drive to keep just in case. Once I have fully backed up ALL data to the external drive, I will be at peace again! :)

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  Jacquers
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                  Get something that can read the smart data like CrystalDiskInfo and check the health of the SSD. SSDs have a limited number of write cycles and are often rated in TBW - Terabytes Written.

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                    Get something that can read the smart data like CrystalDiskInfo and check the health of the SSD. SSDs have a limited number of write cycles and are often rated in TBW - Terabytes Written.

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                    Cp Coder
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                    Good point! It was 3 years old and had been used extensively on a daily basis. It may be suffering from old age! :)

                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                    • D Daniel Pfeffer

                      I do a weekly backup of all computers in my home network. The stuff in my development folder is backed up daily. With that setup, I am reasonably certain to lose only less than one day's work. (Of course, it's always possible that my backup server AND my computer will go south simultaneously... :~ )

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                      DrWalter PE
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                      When I was actively working, I had 3 computers in my office, with all work automatically copied to all 3. Worked like a champ. When 1 computer glitched, I just moved to another and kept working. Everythin was fine until some hoodlums broke into my office and stole all 3 computers. Fortunately I had just made a complete backup of all 3 on a giant external drive, so life went on once I bought new systemssystems.The worst suffering was to my bank account.

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                      • C Cp Coder

                        On my desktop I have two NVMe drives: One for the system and the other for data (called my D: drive). Suddenly when I turned the machine on this morning Windows reported that the D drive was missing - I had no access to any of my data. Now, I keep my data backed up to an external drive, but my very latest work of the last couple of days was not yet backed up. So I feared my very latest emails and work on Kotlin projects may have been lost. :omg: I restarted the machine in the hope the D drive will become visible again, but no cigar. The D drive appeared stone dead! As a last resort I restored the system drive to a Macrium image taken just yesterday, with little hope that that will recover access to the D drive. But it worked! Now my D drive is visible again! :~ But I have this nagging feeling of impending doom, like there is a bad moon rising! What if the D drive is about to fail permanently? So I immediately hooked up an external empty 1 TB drive and started backing up all data that I cannot afford to lose! I will also order a spare NVMe drive to keep just in case. Once I have fully backed up ALL data to the external drive, I will be at peace again! :)

                        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        dandy72
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                        Cp-Coder wrote:

                        As a last resort I restored the system drive to a Macrium image taken just yesterday, with little hope that that will recover access to the D drive. But it worked! Now my D drive is visible again! :~

                        So, something changed on the system drive that lead the OS to think there was no D: drive, and restoring the backup of the system drive brought that back...? Maybe the dying drive is NOT your D: drive at all... I can't help but wonder whether--while your system was in that state--the BIOS was seeing your secondary drive at all. Probably can't determine that now... Either way...yeah, back up religiously. Someone mentioned a RAID configuration...I never miss an opportunity to point out that RAID isn't a backup solution. I've had a RAID controller give up - no fun (all drives individually were fine). Given the extra hassle of setting up RAIDs - while I liked the idea (at first) I stopped playing with the technology, have gone single-drive and never looked back.

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