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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    Nice. That's how I do it, except I wrote my own little IDE so at least I can compile by clicking a button. Visual Studio slows me down.

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    glennPattonWork3
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    Power shell IDE's are for weaklings!:~ Off Topic I have written a test routine for some stepper motors that cause them to play the imperial march! :)

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      glennPattonWork3 wrote:

      No Intellisense, no way of quickly checking syntax programming like it was meant to be!

      I simply can't imagine how I used to do programming without Intellisense. Then again, my office used to have several thick reference books that were always open and printouts of tech sheets on the hardware and microprocessors I was often working with. How things have changed.

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      I think I was one the last old school programmers, C (North C) on an Amiga 500 (2 Disk drives & 512K upgrade!). Once you got to be able to translate the 'almost' UNIX error messages :confused:, I wasn't too bad... Visual Studio and the like made us lazy!

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        Hi All, I am having fun (for me) working on developing a temperature monitor for some bits of kit we have that don't have one, Crack the knuckles, Design the PCB & write the code for the PIC in C on Notepad++... No Intellisense, no way of quickly checking syntax programming like it was meant to be! :omg:

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        RickZeeland
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        After spending loads of time writing an installer in C#, my CEO decided to revert to Inno Setup (Pascal scripting) again ... X|

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        • G glennPattonWork3

          Power shell IDE's are for weaklings!:~ Off Topic I have written a test routine for some stepper motors that cause them to play the imperial march! :)

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          glennPattonWork3 wrote:

          Power shell

          PTUI.

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          • R RickZeeland

            After spending loads of time writing an installer in C#, my CEO decided to revert to Inno Setup (Pascal scripting) again ... X|

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            glennPattonWork3
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            Twas beaten into me Pascal has no place in industry it compiles to P-Code... fast forward a few years and we have MSIL...

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            • C CPallini

              Notepad++ is a luxury editor. You should use vi instead. :laugh:

              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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              Mircea Neacsu
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              CPallini wrote:

              You should use vi ed instead.

              FTFY :laugh:

              Mircea

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              • G glennPattonWork3

                I think I was one the last old school programmers, C (North C) on an Amiga 500 (2 Disk drives & 512K upgrade!). Once you got to be able to translate the 'almost' UNIX error messages :confused:, I wasn't too bad... Visual Studio and the like made us lazy!

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                glennPattonWork3 wrote:

                one the last old school programmers

                Me too. Keepin' it real. No Visual Studio on OpenVMS.

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                • R RickZeeland

                  After spending loads of time writing an installer in C#, my CEO decided to revert to Inno Setup (Pascal scripting) again ... X|

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                  CPallini
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                  RickZeeland wrote:

                  Pascal scripting

                  Toxic. I feel your pain.

                  "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                  • G glennPattonWork3

                    Hi All, I am having fun (for me) working on developing a temperature monitor for some bits of kit we have that don't have one, Crack the knuckles, Design the PCB & write the code for the PIC in C on Notepad++... No Intellisense, no way of quickly checking syntax programming like it was meant to be! :omg:

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                    Gunnar Bakkene
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                    Good for you my friend :) :)

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                    • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                      CPallini wrote:

                      You should use vi ed instead.

                      FTFY :laugh:

                      Mircea

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                      jeron1
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                      :-O I still use ne (Norton editor).

                      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                      • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                        CPallini wrote:

                        You should use vi ed instead.

                        FTFY :laugh:

                        Mircea

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                        jsc42
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                        Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                        CPallini wrote:You should use vi ed instead. FTFY :laugh:

                        No, use Punched Cards (without an interpreter) or paper tape. I have an 8-pin paper tape holder complete with a pin for punching the holes individually that you can borrow. I got it after I used to make my own by cutting strips of paper and using different size knitting needles for the data holes and the sprocket holes.

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                          :-O I still use ne (Norton editor).

                          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                          Mircea Neacsu
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                          Congrats, you are Yorkshireman #1 :D

                          Mircea

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                          • J jsc42

                            Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                            CPallini wrote:You should use vi ed instead. FTFY :laugh:

                            No, use Punched Cards (without an interpreter) or paper tape. I have an 8-pin paper tape holder complete with a pin for punching the holes individually that you can borrow. I got it after I used to make my own by cutting strips of paper and using different size knitting needles for the data holes and the sprocket holes.

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                            Mircea Neacsu
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                            Well done! You are Yorkshireman #2. Still waiting for the next two :D

                            Mircea

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                              Notepad++ is a luxury editor. You should use vi instead. :laugh:

                              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                              He's working in a Microsoft environment - he needs to use Edlin.

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                              • C CPallini

                                RickZeeland wrote:

                                Pascal scripting

                                Toxic. I feel your pain.

                                "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                                glennPattonWork3
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                                Dear :bob: there's a script version?

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                                • G glennPattonWork3

                                  Dear :bob: there's a script version?

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                                  RickZeeland
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                                  Yes, Inno Setup adds a lightweight Pascal scripting engine to your setup, it is quite good and flexible in fact. But as a C# programmer I find the Pascal syntax awful.

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                                    Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                                    CPallini wrote:You should use vi ed instead. FTFY :laugh:

                                    No, use Punched Cards (without an interpreter) or paper tape. I have an 8-pin paper tape holder complete with a pin for punching the holes individually that you can borrow. I got it after I used to make my own by cutting strips of paper and using different size knitting needles for the data holes and the sprocket holes.

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                                    jschell
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                                    jsc42 wrote:

                                    got it after I used to make my own by cutting strips of paper and using different size knitting needles

                                    Probably the last time someone saw an update that actually really solved a problem.

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                                    • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                                      Well done! You are Yorkshireman #2. Still waiting for the next two :D

                                      Mircea

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                                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                                      Obligatory [xkcd: Real Programmers](https://xkcd.com/378/) Am I Yorkshiremen Nos. 3 and 4? :)

                                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                      • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                                        Well done! You are Yorkshireman #2. Still waiting for the next two :D

                                        Mircea

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                                        jsc42
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                                        Actually, it is true! That is really how I wrote my first program.

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                                          Actually, it is true! That is really how I wrote my first program.

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                                          Mircea Neacsu
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                                          I didn’t doubt it. My comment just intended to be funny :-D. I built my first punched tape reader from pieces of PCB welded together with solder. It had 9 LEDs and photodiodes for each channel and the sprocket hole was used as clock. You pulled the tape manually through the thing. A beautiful contraption :)

                                          Mircea

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