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  • S Single Step Debugger

    honey the codewitch wrote:

    1. Is wired, which I insist on

    But, why? Why you need this cable?!

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    trønderen
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    I'd suggest a Logitech Master 3 and keep the USB charging cable plugged inn all the time. Then you won't be bothered by the mouse being wireless, and it is a really good mouse!

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      Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      obermd
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      Years ago I had a wired mouse. All of a sudden my cursor/mouse pointer started moving by itself. Turns out the mouse tail had fallen off the side of the desk and was heavy enough it was pulling the mouse sideways.

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      • H honey the codewitch

        Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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        JayWalks
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        I ended up with a gaming mouse for this reason. Has annoying Leds, but can turn them off in bundled software. Semi quiet clicks, adjustable DPI and side buttons. Programmed them for home and end to quickly move around code editors and webpages.

        Jay Walks

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        • H honey the codewitch

          Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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          GKP1992
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          It is indeed hard to find. I consider the following points when buying one, 1. The mouse must fit my palm. I have a bit above average size palms and a small mouse is a nightmare to move around since I can't use my palm to do it. Unhealthy for the wrist it is. 2. Variable DPI, it is helpful if can set the DPI of the mouse as I want. Helps me when I have to switch from a smaller to a big monitor and vice-versa. 3. Weight: I mostly use keyboard shortcuts to get around my computer however when I do use my mouse, I prefer it to be not too heavy. And since the wire adds to the drag, heavy mice are again bad for your wrist. 4. Clicky: I just like the sound of the click feedback. My current preference is the Lenovo Legion M300 fits all my criteria while not being expensive.

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          • H honey the codewitch

            Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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            CPallini
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            Quote:

            A good mouse is hard to find!

            That's not true. Consider Mickey Mouse, for instance.

            "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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            • H honey the codewitch

              Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

              To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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              den2k88
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              I always loved the Microsoft 4500 series, simple and comfortable. Now I have a Razer Naga Pro and it's the best freaking mouse I ever used.

              GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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              • H honey the codewitch

                Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

                To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                markchagers
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                This is not going to get much applause here, but I have used a (several) magic mouse(s) from apple. I doubt they work with win boxes. It has a few drawbacks, but one killer feature that has made me endure the drawbacks to the point where I simply buy a new one whenever the current one goes dead. The drawbacks: - it's a battery hog - it sometimes drops it's connection - it completely wears out in 3-5 years BUT: it has a touch surface on top (actually the entire top surface is touch sensitive). That means you can scroll in all directions in any application with an almost imperceptible movement of your finger across the surface, and not just scrolling, you can use it to flip through pictures in a photo's app, pages in a browser, even flip entire workspaces (with a 2-fingered gesture). I only wish they would make a wired version as that would fix drawbacks 1 and 2.

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

                  To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                  Rage
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                  I switch over to an Evoluent 4 about ten years ago due to wrist pain, never came back. It solved the problem within a couple of weeks. Evoluent VerticalMouse 4 Right[^] And their great support adds to it ( First mouse had a HW malfunction after 3 years, they replaced it even if it was out of warranty, including oversea shipping). /edit: I'd expected you to have some kind of broomstick, but looks like you are a very modern witch.

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  • D den2k88

                    I always loved the Microsoft 4500 series, simple and comfortable. Now I have a Razer Naga Pro and it's the best freaking mouse I ever used.

                    GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                    Duke Carey
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                    Hard to tell from web photos, but is that a right-hand configuration only?

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                    • D Duke Carey

                      Hard to tell from web photos, but is that a right-hand configuration only?

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                      den2k88
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                      It is, I'm not sure if they sell reversed versions. For me it's a dream though (considering I paid 100 € it had to be). The exchangeable side panels are a godsend for a gamer like me.

                      GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

                        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                        CodeZombie62
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                        Myself, I’ve always preferred a trackball over a mouse. I’m currently using the Logitech MX Ergo. I like the fact that I don’t have to have desktop space for it to be moved around. On rare occasions when I’m not sitting at a desk I can set it on my leg or beside me on an armrest. I don’t understand why they’re not more popular.

                        Scott

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                        • S Single Step Debugger

                          honey the codewitch wrote:

                          1. Is wired, which I insist on

                          But, why? Why you need this cable?!

                          Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                          rcole117
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                          Single Step Debugger wrote:

                          But, why? Why you need this cable?!

                          I also prefer a wired mouse. I work in a very RF noisy environment. The office has 440 IT professionals in one room and 3/4 are using wireless mice on the same frequency (company supplied). My wired mouse has a much better and more accurate response. And that's not to mention the wireless keyboards, ear buds, etc.

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            I like the form factor and lack of extra buttons. Vanilla is my preference in terms of features, so I dig it. But weight is what sold me on this other mouse. I can make it heavy.

                            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                            Bruce Patin
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                            "... lack of extra buttons. Vanilla ..." - I looked it up and it has 11 programmable buttons!

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                            • S Single Step Debugger

                              honey the codewitch wrote:

                              1. Is wired, which I insist on

                              But, why? Why you need this cable?!

                              Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                              Shmoken99
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                              Because the batteries always die at the worst possible time.

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                                "... lack of extra buttons. Vanilla ..." - I looked it up and it has 11 programmable buttons!

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                Oh, I did not see those. Mea culpa

                                To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                • H honey the codewitch

                                  Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

                                  To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  Hmm. I use a Logitech wireless M650L. Smooth touch, nicely affirmative buttons that don't feel fragile. Clicks have a definite auditory and tactile feedback without invoking images of a jackhammer outside Big Ben at noon. Wireless because my cats just love chasing cables that move. Just my 2¢.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

                                    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                    Matt Bond
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                                    I greatly prefer wired as well. However, I did have a wireless Logitech mouse that lasted for 15 years. When it died, I got another 3 years ago, and it's been great ever since. Though I'm right-dominant, I use a left-handed mouse. Why can't they create a ergonomic design for lefties?

                                    Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!

                                      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                      RecioIII
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                                      OK - it must be that time of the decade for a new mouse. I have several mice but my favorite since 2009 has been a Logitech Anywhere MX. I've literally taken it around the world. In 2013 I bought another one as a backup because I didn't want to be without one if the first one crapped out -- which it has not. BUT...last week, something came over me and I thought - "It's time for a new favorite mouse!" My criteria...1) fits my hand completely (palm resting on top, fingertips rest right on the buttons - my hands are kind of large), 2) can be used ambidextrously (I'm a lefty but use right-handed mice), 3) wireless (my desk is too cluttered; also, I travel). I ended up with a Logitech M650L (blue) - and it is, in fact, my new favorite. One thing that I was not expecting to like is QUIET clicks; I use a mechanical keyboard and love the "noise" - but this quiet clicking mouse is kind of nice. You do feel the clicks, though. Another surprise was that it has Bluetooth in addition to the USB dongle. So, I'm glad I'm not the only one talking about a new mouse. I mentioned how excited I was about it to coworkers and family and it's kind of and odd thing to talk about. Most people don't care. Ok...NOW...who wants to talk about COFFEE MUGS?!!! :D

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                                        This is not going to get much applause here, but I have used a (several) magic mouse(s) from apple. I doubt they work with win boxes. It has a few drawbacks, but one killer feature that has made me endure the drawbacks to the point where I simply buy a new one whenever the current one goes dead. The drawbacks: - it's a battery hog - it sometimes drops it's connection - it completely wears out in 3-5 years BUT: it has a touch surface on top (actually the entire top surface is touch sensitive). That means you can scroll in all directions in any application with an almost imperceptible movement of your finger across the surface, and not just scrolling, you can use it to flip through pictures in a photo's app, pages in a browser, even flip entire workspaces (with a 2-fingered gesture). I only wish they would make a wired version as that would fix drawbacks 1 and 2.

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                                        RecioIII
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                                        Same story. Same likes and rubs - and the battery cover coming off all the time! I just couldn't come to buy another one after my 3rd one died. I did get the Microsoft Arc Mouse which kind of has the touchpad on the top. Works with Windows and Linux - but my Mac doesn't even see it! Figures.

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                                          Single Step Debugger wrote:

                                          But, why? Why you need this cable?!

                                          I also prefer a wired mouse. I work in a very RF noisy environment. The office has 440 IT professionals in one room and 3/4 are using wireless mice on the same frequency (company supplied). My wired mouse has a much better and more accurate response. And that's not to mention the wireless keyboards, ear buds, etc.

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                                          trønderen
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                                          Most (/all) wireless mice I have been using have been Logitech, and they all have had a 3-way channel switch. Maybe cheaper brands don't provide alternate channels. When you bring in ear buds without a single word of comment, I wonder: Don't you see any difference at all between keyboard presses and mouse clicks, and real time media like sound? Believe me: There is a most significant difference. Maybe in the order of a couple orders of magnitude in data volume. For the RF noisy argument: My last 4 displays (2 at work, 2 at home) has USB sockets along the edge. I always used one of them for the wireless dongle, so the distance between the dongle and the mouse is 60-80 cm in open air when the sockets are on the left hand side of the screen, 30 cm if they are on the right hand side (that varies with the terminal model). If your screen doesn't provide USB sockets, put a small USB hub below your screen - you need it there anyway, for charging your mouse, mobile and other stuff, for hooking up your webcam etc. For Bluetooth, when the incoming signal is strong, the receiver will reduce its sensitivity to reduce other disturbances. My current mouse is not BT, but I'd guess that it follows the same logic. I have never experienced any RF noise problems, not in any environment at work or at home. There may of course be mice, keyboards or whatever, managed in a way that can't handle RF noise and/or can't provide sufficiently high bandwidth and short response time. E.g. Logitech MX Master 3 has been a popular mouse among gamers; I guess that is an indicator that when done the right way, wireless mousing (and keyboarding) can be as high-performing as you desire.

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