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I just realized I got scammed all those years ago...

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  • D den2k88

    Like many, I had a DOS computer and I used a keyboard with it. Turns out it was a CON. I'm getting my coat and my walker

    GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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    Rage
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    I ... don't get it. I miss the reference or the idioms, probably.

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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    • D den2k88

      Like many, I had a DOS computer and I used a keyboard with it. Turns out it was a CON. I'm getting my coat and my walker

      GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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      I assume you've already grabbed your coat...

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      • R Rage

        I ... don't get it. I miss the reference or the idioms, probably.

        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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        CPallini
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        Device file - Wikipedia[^]

        "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

        In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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        • D den2k88

          Like many, I had a DOS computer and I used a keyboard with it. Turns out it was a CON. I'm getting my coat and my walker

          GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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          Daniel Pfeffer
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          We are still being scammed. 1. Open a command window 2. type "copy <name of text file> con" 3. See the text file displayed in your command window PRN is, IIRC, also still a reserved file name. DOS - the gift that keeps on giving. :sigh:

          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          • CPalliniC CPallini

            Device file - Wikipedia[^]

            "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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            • CPalliniC CPallini

              Device file - Wikipedia[^]

              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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              Grazzie mille Carlo !

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                We are still being scammed. 1. Open a command window 2. type "copy <name of text file> con" 3. See the text file displayed in your command window PRN is, IIRC, also still a reserved file name. DOS - the gift that keeps on giving. :sigh:

                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                jschell
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                Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                DOS - the gift that keeps on giving

                That statement could be ambiguous but just to be clear since the OP is referring to a personal computer those idioms existed before then and specifically Microsoft did not invent them. If for no other reason than because Microsoft did not create the DOS that they sold in the first place.

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                • R Rage

                  Grazzie mille Carlo !

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  CPallini
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                  Bitte schön! :-D

                  "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

                  In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                    We are still being scammed. 1. Open a command window 2. type "copy <name of text file> con" 3. See the text file displayed in your command window PRN is, IIRC, also still a reserved file name. DOS - the gift that keeps on giving. :sigh:

                    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                    Kenneth Haugland
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                    Not if you type format c: :(

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                    • J jschell

                      Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                      DOS - the gift that keeps on giving

                      That statement could be ambiguous but just to be clear since the OP is referring to a personal computer those idioms existed before then and specifically Microsoft did not invent them. If for no other reason than because Microsoft did not create the DOS that they sold in the first place.

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                      Richard Andrew x64
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                      jschell wrote:

                      Microsoft did not create the DOS that they sold in the first place.

                      Is this documented, or is it one of those "we didn't go to the moon" claims?

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                        jschell wrote:

                        Microsoft did not create the DOS that they sold in the first place.

                        Is this documented, or is it one of those "we didn't go to the moon" claims?

                        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                        86-DOS - Wikipedia[^] Microsoft purchased a non-exclusive license for 86-DOS from Seattle Computer Products in December 1980 for US$25,000. In May 1981, it hired Tim Paterson to port the system to the IBM PC, which used the slower and less expensive Intel 8088 processor and had its own specific family of peripherals. IBM watched the developments daily, submitting over 300 change requests before it accepted the product and wrote the user manual for it.

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                        • D Daniel Pfeffer

                          We are still being scammed. 1. Open a command window 2. type "copy <name of text file> con" 3. See the text file displayed in your command window PRN is, IIRC, also still a reserved file name. DOS - the gift that keeps on giving. :sigh:

                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                          jschell
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                          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                          PRN is, IIRC, also still a reserved file name.

                          So is NUL

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                          • D den2k88

                            Like many, I had a DOS computer and I used a keyboard with it. Turns out it was a CON. I'm getting my coat and my walker

                            GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                            Martijn Smitshoek
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                            The real meaning of that came to me, when I was working in Windows 3.0 and tried to save a bitmap as CON.BMP

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                            • M Martijn Smitshoek

                              The real meaning of that came to me, when I was working in Windows 3.0 and tried to save a bitmap as CON.BMP

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                              den2k88
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                              In 2016, under Windows 7, we had the same issue with a customer reporting a defect in the softwar. They were trying to save a file named con.prd, Windows failed (but since there was an On Error Resume Next statement the file simply 'disappeared', aka it was never created, and a bunch of other procedures took invalid data).

                              GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                              • D den2k88

                                In 2016, under Windows 7, we had the same issue with a customer reporting a defect in the softwar. They were trying to save a file named con.prd, Windows failed (but since there was an On Error Resume Next statement the file simply 'disappeared', aka it was never created, and a bunch of other procedures took invalid data).

                                GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                It happened to me too. My EcoLab software used to have a file called aux.cc, and it caused much perplexity the first time I tried to compile it on Windows. Eventually, a colleague diagnosed the problem, and the solution was as simple as renaming the file to auxil.cc, which remains the case today.

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                                • D den2k88

                                  In 2016, under Windows 7, we had the same issue with a customer reporting a defect in the softwar. They were trying to save a file named con.prd, Windows failed (but since there was an On Error Resume Next statement the file simply 'disappeared', aka it was never created, and a bunch of other procedures took invalid data).

                                  GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                  On Error Resume Next:~ It's just kicking the can down the road.

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                                    On Error Resume Next:~ It's just kicking the can down the road.

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                                    den2k88
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                                    The (legacy) code was choke full of those, I got fed up and one day I removed all of them and replaced with actual error handlers.

                                    GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                                    • D den2k88

                                      The (legacy) code was choke full of those, I got fed up and one day I removed all of them and replaced with actual error handlers.

                                      GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                                      scedastic
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                                      Good for you! You ought to be commended.

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                                        Sure, but every computer came with PRN pre-installed.

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                                        sasadler
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                                        Nope. I built my first computer back in 1978 and my 'operating system' for a year or two was the Zapple monitor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapple\_Monitor).

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