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Can D simulated by H terminate normally?

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  • P polcott

    He has already made up his mind and closed it. I really shouldn't even need that quote. Anyone with at least a BSCS can verify that it is necessarily true. The technical term for a statement that is necessarily true is tautology.

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    jeron1
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    polcott wrote:

    He has already made up his mind

    Who's 'he', the current editor? Look, if your stated aim to publish there (CAMC), then concentrate your efforts there. It doesn't seem as though 'here' is getting you anywhere.

    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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      polcott wrote:

      He has already made up his mind

      Who's 'he', the current editor? Look, if your stated aim to publish there (CAMC), then concentrate your efforts there. It doesn't seem as though 'here' is getting you anywhere.

      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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      I generally get the same response that I am getting here. Everyone is so sure that I must be wrong that they don't bother to look at a single word that I have said and simply vote me down until the post is deleted. Any BSCS graduate taking five minutes to examine my code can see that D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly terminate normally because it remains stuck in recursive simulation. That by itself should be enough to pique their interest in looking at the additional details. Because my writing style is not even close the the writing style of a published PhD researcher what I say is almost always rejected out-of-hand without review of the substance of what I have said.

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      • P polcott

        I generally get the same response that I am getting here. Everyone is so sure that I must be wrong that they don't bother to look at a single word that I have said and simply vote me down until the post is deleted. Any BSCS graduate taking five minutes to examine my code can see that D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly terminate normally because it remains stuck in recursive simulation. That by itself should be enough to pique their interest in looking at the additional details. Because my writing style is not even close the the writing style of a published PhD researcher what I say is almost always rejected out-of-hand without review of the substance of what I have said.

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        polcott wrote:

        Because my writing style is not even close the the writing style of a published PhD researcher what I say is almost always rejected out-of-hand without review of the substance of what I have said.

        For some reason I doubt that. What would happen if everyone here agreed with your conclusion?

        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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          polcott wrote:

          Because my writing style is not even close the the writing style of a published PhD researcher what I say is almost always rejected out-of-hand without review of the substance of what I have said.

          For some reason I doubt that. What would happen if everyone here agreed with your conclusion?

          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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          If everyone here agreed that page three of this paper is correct and they sincerely meant this, then I would know that I have finally made my point clear enough and I would submit page three to letters to the editor of CACM. Simulating (partial) Halt Deciders Defeat the Halting Problem Proofs I might have to come up with a much less controversial title such as: Simple Termination analysis between executing C functions.

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          • P polcott

            If everyone here agreed that page three of this paper is correct and they sincerely meant this, then I would know that I have finally made my point clear enough and I would submit page three to letters to the editor of CACM. Simulating (partial) Halt Deciders Defeat the Halting Problem Proofs I might have to come up with a much less controversial title such as: Simple Termination analysis between executing C functions.

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            polcott wrote:

            If everyone here agreed that page three of this paper is correct

            Probably not going to happen here, so just cut to the chase. Change the title and submit, possibly adding that professors name somehow in the title.

            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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              polcott wrote:

              If everyone here agreed that page three of this paper is correct

              Probably not going to happen here, so just cut to the chase. Change the title and submit, possibly adding that professors name somehow in the title.

              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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              polcott
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              In other words you too are not going to bother to take five minutes and verify that D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly terminate normally because it remains stuck in recursive simulation.

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              • P polcott

                In other words you too are not going to bother to take five minutes and verify that D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly terminate normally because it remains stuck in recursive simulation.

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                You are correct.

                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                • J jeron1

                  You are correct.

                  "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                  polcott
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                  The objective facts prove that I am correct thus superseding all opinions to the contrary. I really hope that you don't feel this same way about climate change.

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                  • P polcott

                    The objective facts prove that I am correct thus superseding all opinions to the contrary. I really hope that you don't feel this same way about climate change.

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                    I claimed nothing about your conclusions one way or another.

                    polcott wrote:

                    The objective facts prove that I am correct thus superseding all opinions to the contrary.

                    Where has that got you?

                    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                    • J jeron1

                      I claimed nothing about your conclusions one way or another.

                      polcott wrote:

                      The objective facts prove that I am correct thus superseding all opinions to the contrary.

                      Where has that got you?

                      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                      It has brought me to the harsh realization that humanity really is in the post truth era.

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                      • P polcott

                        It has brought me to the harsh realization that humanity really is in the post truth era.

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                        jeron1
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                        You can't force people to care, that's the truth.

                        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                        • J jeron1

                          You can't force people to care, that's the truth.

                          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                          The issue is not that people don't care. It is that they consider the entirely unsupported opinion of their reference group to carry infinitely more weight than the actual verified facts.

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