I went against my better judgment
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Which is all well and good, but surely even tracking my search, writing to temporary tables, writing to a cookie on my system, is still a violation if they want to get like that. And out-sourcing the data center would surely resolve any issues they may still have. An online search is not equivalent to "window shopping" when a shop is closed. Anyway, I find it bizarre that they don't simply put up a "closed for Shabbat, come back tomorrow" splash screen. It would be a lot more helpful.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I find it bizarre that they don't simply put up a "closed for Shabbat, come back tomorrow" splash screen.
Keeping to the Shabbat can get quite a bit more bizarre than that: Why There's a Single, Tiny Wire Encircling Manhattan - YouTube[^]
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That's something of a subjective moral position, I'd think. I could make several arguments against that perspective, but I won't right now. Not enough coffee. Edit: Whoops. It was the last laptop i left in a cafe. The first one I left at someone's house. I never found the one I left at the cafe.
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Maybe you could come over to my place for a cup of coffee and to show me my errr... I mean, your new laptop :D
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Maybe you could come over to my place for a cup of coffee and to show me my errr... I mean, your new laptop :D
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LOL I went *everywhere* with the thing, so it was bound to happen eventually. I had had it for i think a couple years at that point.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I find it bizarre that they don't simply put up a "closed for Shabbat, come back tomorrow" splash screen.
Keeping to the Shabbat can get quite a bit more bizarre than that: Why There's a Single, Tiny Wire Encircling Manhattan - YouTube[^]
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Oh, I knows it. But the Lounge is no place for such things.
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I'm guessing it's the "Writing" prohibition:
The Thirty-Nine Categories of Sabbath Work Prohibited By Law[^]
This includes all forms of writing and drawing. Typing, printing, and using a rubber stamp all come under this heading. The main objective of writing is the keeping of records, and therefore, the spirit of the law forbids any activity normally requiring a written record. Thus, the Sanhedrin forbade all sorts of business activity, as well as marriage and divorce on the Sabbath. (Note 20) Calculations and measurements are also included, since they also normally involve writing.
Since taking an order would involve making a record, a strict interpretation would allow the site to remain, but ordering to be forbidden as you'd have to update a database. I'm not Jewish though, so I could be well wrong! :laugh:
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I am Jewish, and I can tell you that no observant Jew would have their place of business open on the Sabbath, even if all the staffers were non-Jews. As for keeping the web site going, there is no prohibition against leaving a mechanism that was operating before the Sabbath to operate on the Sabbath. For example, there is no problem turning an electric light on before the Sabbath and have it stay on all the Sabbath. In like manner, there is no reason to shut down the web site.
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Oh, I knows it. But the Lounge is no place for such things.
I think that we can take it as read that all religions have practices or beliefs that appear bizarre to outsiders. And yes, the Lounge is the wrong place for this discussion. :)
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Living on the first floor of a busy street in one on north broadway in seattle back when the neighborhood was kinda sketchy. Wouldn't have mattered but anyone could see in my window during the day, and there was hidden access to my side windows off the street, so someone broke in. The other time it got stolen I left it at someone's place, and came back for it once I realized and it was gone. Both times I figured out out who did it.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
Both times I figured out out who did it.
Impressive! Maybe you should be called Kojak the codewitch. :)
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I bought a laptop. A screaming monster of a Lenovo with an i9-13900HX Intel processor and an NVidia RTX 4090 in it. I bought it to run linux on a machine small enough to keep in my workspace and so when I visit my sister we could game together. I don't usually buy laptops. I spent $4500 USD on one and it was stolen twice, recovered fortunately both times, and finally died when I dropped it. The one I had after that I spent much less on, and it was stolen. That time it had all my hours logged for work that week. What a mess. It wasn't the money I was out on the laptop in that case, but the fact that work related stuff got messed up. And that's the thing. Even with source control, laptops are a liability. Consequently I don't use them - typically. But I almost need one if I want to continue my ARM stuff as I refuse to dualboot my primary machine, and VMs interfere with some of the stodgy USB tools I have for linux for coding these arm boards. I don't have room for another desktop. Finally the clincher was, my sister and I are pretty close, and whenever I'm over there we want to game together, but my desktop is all tempered glass, heavy, fragile, and hard to transport. So in the end I went and treated myself to a monster of a machine. I got a smokin deal on it. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745684-REG/lenovo_82wq002tus_16_legion_pro_7.html[^] As an aside, I was pretty amused that this site won't take orders on Saturday, due to Shabbat. It's not something I was expecting in the age of instant everything all the time online.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I don't usually buy laptops. I spent $4500 USD on one and it was stolen twice, recovered fortunately both times, and finally died when I dropped it. The one I had after that I spent much less on, and it was stolen.
Unlucky? I have friends that have used laptops for decades. Pretty sure right now it is about 20 years for them. One travels extensively all over the world with it. None of them have ever been stolen. You can buy hardware that makes it difficult for anyone to walk off with it as long as you remember to lock it up.
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I am Jewish, and I can tell you that no observant Jew would have their place of business open on the Sabbath, even if all the staffers were non-Jews. As for keeping the web site going, there is no prohibition against leaving a mechanism that was operating before the Sabbath to operate on the Sabbath. For example, there is no problem turning an electric light on before the Sabbath and have it stay on all the Sabbath. In like manner, there is no reason to shut down the web site.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
there is no reason to shut down the web site
But why disable one part of it while leaving most of it fully active? It still seems similar to leaving the shop open to allow browsing and comparing prices, but just no sales. Even the history of browsing should still be recorded for analytics.
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I bought a laptop. A screaming monster of a Lenovo with an i9-13900HX Intel processor and an NVidia RTX 4090 in it. I bought it to run linux on a machine small enough to keep in my workspace and so when I visit my sister we could game together. I don't usually buy laptops. I spent $4500 USD on one and it was stolen twice, recovered fortunately both times, and finally died when I dropped it. The one I had after that I spent much less on, and it was stolen. That time it had all my hours logged for work that week. What a mess. It wasn't the money I was out on the laptop in that case, but the fact that work related stuff got messed up. And that's the thing. Even with source control, laptops are a liability. Consequently I don't use them - typically. But I almost need one if I want to continue my ARM stuff as I refuse to dualboot my primary machine, and VMs interfere with some of the stodgy USB tools I have for linux for coding these arm boards. I don't have room for another desktop. Finally the clincher was, my sister and I are pretty close, and whenever I'm over there we want to game together, but my desktop is all tempered glass, heavy, fragile, and hard to transport. So in the end I went and treated myself to a monster of a machine. I got a smokin deal on it. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745684-REG/lenovo_82wq002tus_16_legion_pro_7.html[^] As an aside, I was pretty amused that this site won't take orders on Saturday, due to Shabbat. It's not something I was expecting in the age of instant everything all the time online.
There's smoke in my iris But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids So I'm ready now (What you ready for?) I'm ready for life in this city And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
Looking at the picture of the ventilation, I would recommend you to make a frame of thin wood or plexiglas that allows you to place the laptop in a stable way, but allows the circulation of the air. Like 3 cm high where there are holes (in form of rectangle) of 2x5 cm with 1 or 2 cm "wall" separation between them.
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Looking at the picture of the ventilation, I would recommend you to make a frame of thin wood or plexiglas that allows you to place the laptop in a stable way, but allows the circulation of the air. Like 3 cm high where there are holes (in form of rectangle) of 2x5 cm with 1 or 2 cm "wall" separation between them.
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I bought a cooler tray for it.
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I bought a cooler tray for it.
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:confused: If it works... then is good.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I don't usually buy laptops. I spent $4500 USD on one and it was stolen twice, recovered fortunately both times, and finally died when I dropped it. The one I had after that I spent much less on, and it was stolen.
Unlucky? I have friends that have used laptops for decades. Pretty sure right now it is about 20 years for them. One travels extensively all over the world with it. None of them have ever been stolen. You can buy hardware that makes it difficult for anyone to walk off with it as long as you remember to lock it up.
Absent minded, and lived on the first floor in a building where it was easy to break in, you could see in my windows, and some of the neighborhood was sketchy.
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:confused: If it works... then is good.
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It should. :)
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It should. :)
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I have googled it... I hadn't seen any yet. Looks pretty "cool" :rolleyes:
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I have googled it... I hadn't seen any yet. Looks pretty "cool" :rolleyes:
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Keep in mind Lenovo was IBM back then. A few years back it was acquired by a Chenese company(only the Lenovo brand, not the IBM) so don't count on the "lasted" part.
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LOL I went *everywhere* with the thing, so it was bound to happen eventually. I had had it for i think a couple years at that point.
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Put a sticker with your cell number on your new laptop. If an honest person finds it, you will get it back. Put that over permanent marker with your cell number and “reward”. If a dishonest person peels off the sticker, they might go for the reward!
That's not a bad idea, although if the laptop were passed around who knows who'd wind up with my number. :~ I'll certainly consider it.
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I'm guessing it's the "Writing" prohibition:
The Thirty-Nine Categories of Sabbath Work Prohibited By Law[^]
This includes all forms of writing and drawing. Typing, printing, and using a rubber stamp all come under this heading. The main objective of writing is the keeping of records, and therefore, the spirit of the law forbids any activity normally requiring a written record. Thus, the Sanhedrin forbade all sorts of business activity, as well as marriage and divorce on the Sabbath. (Note 20) Calculations and measurements are also included, since they also normally involve writing.
Since taking an order would involve making a record, a strict interpretation would allow the site to remain, but ordering to be forbidden as you'd have to update a database. I'm not Jewish though, so I could be well wrong! :laugh:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Since taking an order would involve making a record
Interesting question. To me the following makes it clear that the work applies to humans. Only. [^] It actually says the computer can be left on and one can even interact with it in a limited way. Logically I could also see that if this was not the case then one would need to turn off the refrigerator. Or what about even an irrigation system? Would a farmer need to turn that off? Following says no. https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/55872[^]
