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  • T theoldfool

    OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

    >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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    den2k88
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    Firefox is the only browser I truly trust, I sometimes use Brave only because its ad-block is finer - usually it does not get detected by anti Ad-block countermeasures.

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    • T theoldfool

      OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

      >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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      Lost User
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      I get to ignore even more emails: "That was you? I thought it was (AI) spam ..."

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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      • T theoldfool

        OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

        >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        theoldfool wrote:

        I need to rethink my default browser.

        The sad truth is, Mozilla will never have the money of Google as long as they don't also partake in the sneaky practices of Google. And less money means less adverts, company deals, etc. To make it worse, Google is on top of adding new features to mix in with their spyware. So, the desire for Chrome is hard to ignore since most people will never take the time to learn anything about the software they're using. But, FF is the better browser in terms of trust. They have no financial incentives to do anything other than just work on the browser. And, I say this as a dude who doesn't use FF. So, it's not bias talking.

        Jeremy Falcon

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        • T theoldfool

          OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

          >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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          dandy72
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          theoldfool wrote:

          Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc.

          So, using other browsers, did anything manage to actually get installed without your approval? It's one thing for the browser to warn about known bad sites; it's something else altogether if a browser fails to block something nefarious. Personally, I wouldn't change browsers because another one has training wheels.

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          • T theoldfool

            OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

            >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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            Info Orbeezgunreview
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            It resource for comprehensive reviews and insights on the latest and Best Orbeez Gun greatest in the world of toy guns.

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            • T theoldfool

              OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

              >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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              Info Orbeezgunreview
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              It resource for comprehensive reviews and insights on the latest and Best Orbeez Gun greatest in the world of toy guns.

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                theoldfool wrote:

                Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc.

                So, using other browsers, did anything manage to actually get installed without your approval? It's one thing for the browser to warn about known bad sites; it's something else altogether if a browser fails to block something nefarious. Personally, I wouldn't change browsers because another one has training wheels.

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                theoldfool
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                Only went to the base site, not the full URL in the email.

                >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                • T theoldfool

                  OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

                  >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                  Mark Whybird
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                  This is not snark, but genuine curiosity: can you try it on Safari?

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                    theoldfool wrote:

                    I need to rethink my default browser.

                    The sad truth is, Mozilla will never have the money of Google as long as they don't also partake in the sneaky practices of Google. And less money means less adverts, company deals, etc. To make it worse, Google is on top of adding new features to mix in with their spyware. So, the desire for Chrome is hard to ignore since most people will never take the time to learn anything about the software they're using. But, FF is the better browser in terms of trust. They have no financial incentives to do anything other than just work on the browser. And, I say this as a dude who doesn't use FF. So, it's not bias talking.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    Lost User
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                    Have you tried LibreWolf, a more hardened and privacy focused version of Firefox? https://librewolf.net/[^]

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                    • T theoldfool

                      OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

                      >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                      JohnDG52
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                      Firefox has saved my bacon a few times!

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                        Firefox has saved my bacon a few times!

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                        theoldfool
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                        bacon yum

                        >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                          This is not snark, but genuine curiosity: can you try it on Safari?

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                          theoldfool
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                          No, the last time I went to try Safari on Linux it wanted to run the Windows version using (choke) Wine. I have an ancient MacBook Pro (2014) and I doubt that is runs the latest Safari. Haven't booted it up in months, only use when I travel and then to run my VM's on it. Sorry.

                          >64 User: Technical term used by developers. See idiot.

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                          • T theoldfool

                            OK, so I got a phishing email so blatant that it must have been done by ChatGPT. I only get one or two of these a week (my email goes through a mail washer), so I decided to see what it was. Using a "throw away" VM, I went to the site with: Brave, Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Vivaldi browsers. Only Firefox blocked the site with a big red screen, and a Details button. Site was known to install software, etc. I need to rethink my default browser.

                            >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                            Mark Starr
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                            :thumbsup: I’ve been using FireFox for a few years now. I use Chrome when I want to access Calendar or Sheets from the desktop. Firefox is running uBlock Origin; also have a Pi Hole DNS service running. And Outlook is configured to show emails as plain text so none of the background code/images loads automatically.

                            Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                              :thumbsup: I’ve been using FireFox for a few years now. I use Chrome when I want to access Calendar or Sheets from the desktop. Firefox is running uBlock Origin; also have a Pi Hole DNS service running. And Outlook is configured to show emails as plain text so none of the background code/images loads automatically.

                              Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                              theoldfool
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                              Haven't used FF that much. Side "benefit", the VM was minimal. I opened some youtube streams in FF and it consumed all the memory, then all the swap space. It got so fat and lazy, it froze the VM. BRS time for the VM. :)

                              >64 User: Technical term used by developers. See idiot.

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                                No, the last time I went to try Safari on Linux it wanted to run the Windows version using (choke) Wine. I have an ancient MacBook Pro (2014) and I doubt that is runs the latest Safari. Haven't booted it up in months, only use when I travel and then to run my VM's on it. Sorry.

                                >64 User: Technical term used by developers. See idiot.

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                                Mark Whybird
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                                All good; thanks for the reply.

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