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  • D Dave Kreskowiak

    You mean like this? Grand Canyon Skywalk: A 33-year-old man fell 4,000 feet to his death in Arizona, authorities say | CNN[^]

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    Yup. Fell, my hiney. There's all sorts of barriers around it, and people within 50' to help. He either jumped or was pushed.

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      Did the passengers buy a one way ticket? I'm claustrophobic, I wouldn't have even gotten in the sub.

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      Mike Hankey wrote:

      I'm claustrophobic, I wouldn't have even gotten in the sub.

      I'm fat, I wouldn't have fit in the sub :) Jokes aside, two things spring to mind: a) let's hope they are found before the 96 hours air reserve deadline - loss of life is tragic no matter circumstances; b) just because something can be done it doesn't mean is should be done.

      Mircea

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      • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

        Mike Hankey wrote:

        I'm claustrophobic, I wouldn't have even gotten in the sub.

        I'm fat, I wouldn't have fit in the sub :) Jokes aside, two things spring to mind: a) let's hope they are found before the 96 hours air reserve deadline - loss of life is tragic no matter circumstances; b) just because something can be done it doesn't mean is should be done.

        Mircea

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        The Titanic is a mile down, odds of survival are not in their favor, but I do hope they come out alive.

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          The Titanic is a mile down, odds of survival are not in their favor, but I do hope they come out alive.

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          More like 2 miles, but after a certain point it doesn't matter.

          Mircea

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          • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

            More like 2 miles, but after a certain point it doesn't matter.

            Mircea

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            You're right, don't know where I got 1 mile from.

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              If you paid me $250K I still would not go in a sub to the Titanic. This is a terrible way to die, if in fact, this is what happened to the submarine passengers/crew. Titanic tourist submarine disappears in Atlantic Ocean[^]

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              Curious question, does anyone know: It is reported that they lost communication with the submarine Sunday afternoon. What kind of communication technology is used under such conditions? Sea water sucks up short radio wavelengths like a sponge. Do they use very long wavelength radio waves? (Loran-C, navigation system developed for submarine use, operated around 100 kHz.) I know laser / optical has been used for underwater communication under some circumstances, but as far as I know, quite different from 3800 meters of depth. Ultrasound has been used as well, but again: Certainly not down to 3800 meters. If they had cabled connection, which is not uncommon with ROVs, even at such depths, I guess the submarine could have been found by simply following the cable. So that is probably not the answer. Are there other alternatives?

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              • S Slacker007

                If you paid me $250K I still would not go in a sub to the Titanic. This is a terrible way to die, if in fact, this is what happened to the submarine passengers/crew. Titanic tourist submarine disappears in Atlantic Ocean[^]

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                In 2009, we had gone in a sub, to a depth of about 120 feet off the coast of Mauritius. Luckily we came up as planned.

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                  Curious question, does anyone know: It is reported that they lost communication with the submarine Sunday afternoon. What kind of communication technology is used under such conditions? Sea water sucks up short radio wavelengths like a sponge. Do they use very long wavelength radio waves? (Loran-C, navigation system developed for submarine use, operated around 100 kHz.) I know laser / optical has been used for underwater communication under some circumstances, but as far as I know, quite different from 3800 meters of depth. Ultrasound has been used as well, but again: Certainly not down to 3800 meters. If they had cabled connection, which is not uncommon with ROVs, even at such depths, I guess the submarine could have been found by simply following the cable. So that is probably not the answer. Are there other alternatives?

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                  If cabled, would there be chances that the cable got cut?

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                  • A Amarnath S

                    If cabled, would there be chances that the cable got cut?

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                    Some years ago, an ocean fiber cable was cut over in the outer Oslo fjord, and a couple days later, a swordfish (not regularly seen in Norwegian waters) were caught in the same area. :-) Believe it or not: This is a true story. But the swordfish was never convicted for cutting the cable. (He probably wasn't even sued.) The cable may of course have been cut, but that would be such an essential point that I am sure it would have been reported in the news. I also would think that a cable designed to run to a depth of 3800 m would be extremely strong, so if cut, some rather dramatic event must have taken place. (My guess only!)

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                      Yup. Fell, my hiney. There's all sorts of barriers around it, and people within 50' to help. He either jumped or was pushed.

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      So he could not have climbed up to 'get a really good selfie' and then leaned too far back? Pictures I found don't really make it clear if there is a catch net around it. Certainly other people at the Grand Canyon in other places have done exactly that.

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                        Curious question, does anyone know: It is reported that they lost communication with the submarine Sunday afternoon. What kind of communication technology is used under such conditions? Sea water sucks up short radio wavelengths like a sponge. Do they use very long wavelength radio waves? (Loran-C, navigation system developed for submarine use, operated around 100 kHz.) I know laser / optical has been used for underwater communication under some circumstances, but as far as I know, quite different from 3800 meters of depth. Ultrasound has been used as well, but again: Certainly not down to 3800 meters. If they had cabled connection, which is not uncommon with ROVs, even at such depths, I guess the submarine could have been found by simply following the cable. So that is probably not the answer. Are there other alternatives?

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                        Acoustic apparently. Search for "Communication and rescue efforts" Missing Titanic sub: what are submersibles, how do they communicate, and what may have gone wrong?[^]

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                          So he could not have climbed up to 'get a really good selfie' and then leaned too far back? Pictures I found don't really make it clear if there is a catch net around it. Certainly other people at the Grand Canyon in other places have done exactly that.

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                          They don't allow cell phones on the Walk, and if you want a picture, the staff will take one and sell it to you! It's quite a racket. :-D

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                            They don't allow cell phones on the Walk, and if you want a picture, the staff will take one and sell it to you! It's quite a racket. :-D

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            Roger Wright wrote:

                            They don't allow cell phones on the Walk,

                            Does that go for old style cameras as well? Or do they simply assume that nowadays, photos are made with a telephone? (So what if an old style camera has phone electronics so you can make a call with your camera? :-))

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                              Acoustic apparently. Search for "Communication and rescue efforts" Missing Titanic sub: what are submersibles, how do they communicate, and what may have gone wrong?[^]

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                              Thanks for the link. It is probably reasonably reliable - but I guess that it takes some fancy encoding and error correction to go almost four kilometers through plankton, currents, microplastics, fish schools ... I am not sure about the interpretation of "The Titan would have had ...", though. A corresponding wording in Norwegian, "Titan skal ha hatt ..." should be read as "We have heard this as a rumor, but don't nail us if it turns out to be incorrect!" Maybe "would have had" is more reliable :-)

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                              • T trønderen

                                Roger Wright wrote:

                                They don't allow cell phones on the Walk,

                                Does that go for old style cameras as well? Or do they simply assume that nowadays, photos are made with a telephone? (So what if an old style camera has phone electronics so you can make a call with your camera? :-))

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                                Yes. Nothing in your hands, no purses, packages, or anthing else that might be dropped or hurled over the side. They don't quite strip search, but it's close.

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  Yes. Nothing in your hands, no purses, packages, or anthing else that might be dropped or hurled over the side. They don't quite strip search, but it's close.

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  Roger Wright wrote:

                                  that might be dropped or hurled over the side.

                                  Ah. That makes sense. Wonder if they do it to protect the Canyon or because they don't want to deal with people yelling about how they 'must get it back'.

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