How do non-technical users handle it?
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Have faced this earlier. Our development environment was a higher resolution machine, whereas deployment machine was of a much lesser resolution (640 x 480, i am talking about 25 year old story). Then we suggested to use Alt + Spacebar, and using arrow keys to move the application screen, till it became visible. This was the workaround before we sent them the update.
It has been so long I had forgotten that one.
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Just had a program fail to appear on the screen, even though it showed in the taskbar. This has happened a couple times throughout the years. I rebooted, to see if that made a difference, but it didn't. Finally used a window 'peeker' and found that somehow the X and Y were at -32,000. Manually set them to reasonable numbers, and it appeared. How would a non-technical user be able to overcome this difficulty? I cannot see them doing so in my mind - it was frustrating enough for me! (I suspect a forced Windows reboot due to Windows Update somehow clobbered the setting, but don't know for sure.)
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Hold down the Windows key, and press up arrow, then left. That will make the focused app full screen, then left hand side of your current monitor. The "grab handles" for resizing are then available. Much quicker than ALT SPACE, M and the cursor movements, since you don't need to know where it might be to start with. I had this problem when I started making my default apps restore position, and added checks that the app was visible, as well as "Hold SHIFT while starting or ending" to "ignore setting position" and "don't update setting position" respectively.
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Just had a program fail to appear on the screen, even though it showed in the taskbar. This has happened a couple times throughout the years. I rebooted, to see if that made a difference, but it didn't. Finally used a window 'peeker' and found that somehow the X and Y were at -32,000. Manually set them to reasonable numbers, and it appeared. How would a non-technical user be able to overcome this difficulty? I cannot see them doing so in my mind - it was frustrating enough for me! (I suspect a forced Windows reboot due to Windows Update somehow clobbered the setting, but don't know for sure.)
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I have a couple of legacy apps that exhibit a similar behavior...show up in the taskbar but not on the screen. The trick when that happens is to hover over the taskbar 'preview' window for the app, then right-click and select 'maximize'. It was quite annoying when it first happened. Non-technicals will either go buy another computer, or call a techie for help! :laugh:
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Just had a program fail to appear on the screen, even though it showed in the taskbar. This has happened a couple times throughout the years. I rebooted, to see if that made a difference, but it didn't. Finally used a window 'peeker' and found that somehow the X and Y were at -32,000. Manually set them to reasonable numbers, and it appeared. How would a non-technical user be able to overcome this difficulty? I cannot see them doing so in my mind - it was frustrating enough for me! (I suspect a forced Windows reboot due to Windows Update somehow clobbered the setting, but don't know for sure.)
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Have faced this earlier. Our development environment was a higher resolution machine, whereas deployment machine was of a much lesser resolution (640 x 480, i am talking about 25 year old story). Then we suggested to use Alt + Spacebar, and using arrow keys to move the application screen, till it became visible. This was the workaround before we sent them the update.
Amarnath S wrote:
using arrow keys to move the application screen, till it became visible.
I used to do that, until I realized I (a) don't know how far it is and (b) don't know whether I'm even moving the window in the right direction. I typically use the same steps, except that after one or two arrow key presses, I move the mouse around - that seems to immediately "snap" the window into the viewable area.
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Just had a program fail to appear on the screen, even though it showed in the taskbar. This has happened a couple times throughout the years. I rebooted, to see if that made a difference, but it didn't. Finally used a window 'peeker' and found that somehow the X and Y were at -32,000. Manually set them to reasonable numbers, and it appeared. How would a non-technical user be able to overcome this difficulty? I cannot see them doing so in my mind - it was frustrating enough for me! (I suspect a forced Windows reboot due to Windows Update somehow clobbered the setting, but don't know for sure.)
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I get this all the time but usually behind a crash of the app that's misbehaving; my solution is standard and that's to hit ALT+SHIFT while mousing over the taskbar icon of the app then RIGHT MOUSE ... where I'll get the "MOVE" option. That option is found in the tricky RESTORE context stack and it's easy to miss because the metrical size of the popup control is so miniscule. Sometimes the mouse "grabbing" action will miss the "MOVE" that should be able to be made by swinging the mouse through and you'll have to reselect using ALT+SHIFT. If that movement becomes a problem try just using keyboard arrows after you've affected the mouse click and .... HOLD .... until the app's frame starts to appear on your main monitor.
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Hold down the Windows key, and press up arrow, then left. That will make the focused app full screen, then left hand side of your current monitor. The "grab handles" for resizing are then available. Much quicker than ALT SPACE, M and the cursor movements, since you don't need to know where it might be to start with. I had this problem when I started making my default apps restore position, and added checks that the app was visible, as well as "Hold SHIFT while starting or ending" to "ignore setting position" and "don't update setting position" respectively.
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And not to forget Windows / Alt + TAB to change focus on available instances of whatsoever just in case the one is not currently focused due to mouse click somewhere else
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Just had a program fail to appear on the screen, even though it showed in the taskbar. This has happened a couple times throughout the years. I rebooted, to see if that made a difference, but it didn't. Finally used a window 'peeker' and found that somehow the X and Y were at -32,000. Manually set them to reasonable numbers, and it appeared. How would a non-technical user be able to overcome this difficulty? I cannot see them doing so in my mind - it was frustrating enough for me! (I suspect a forced Windows reboot due to Windows Update somehow clobbered the setting, but don't know for sure.)
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I usually go as OG. ALT+TAB or Windows+TAB to set focus in the desired App Windows UP to maximize + Windows left/right to set it in the seloected half of the monitor. If you have multiple monitors you can use the Windows Left/Right several times, the order will be: First right = right half of your current monitor Second right = middle (floating) of the next monitor Third right = right half of that second monitor ...
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Just had a program fail to appear on the screen, even though it showed in the taskbar. This has happened a couple times throughout the years. I rebooted, to see if that made a difference, but it didn't. Finally used a window 'peeker' and found that somehow the X and Y were at -32,000. Manually set them to reasonable numbers, and it appeared. How would a non-technical user be able to overcome this difficulty? I cannot see them doing so in my mind - it was frustrating enough for me! (I suspect a forced Windows reboot due to Windows Update somehow clobbered the setting, but don't know for sure.)
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David O'Neil wrote:
How would a non-technical user be able to overcome this difficulty?
Likely one or more of the following. - Ask friend/family for help. - Uninstall it and forget about it. Perhaps also asking for a refund. - Call/email support for product - Complain on the product community site.
