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  • M MarkTJohnson

    Just wait until you get on the inside of that door. If you can get back out, then it is fixed.

    I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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    glennPattonWork3
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    I have just been informed it's not actually the door locking board but the master controller...

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      <Sepulchral Voice> Level One Completed. Loading Level 2 ... </Sepulchral Voice>

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      glennPattonWork3
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      oh Fark, I'm only on level 2, It's not Friday and I appear to have beaten the end of level boss (I hope)

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      • M Marc Clifton

        I guess the diode got hit by a fork of lightning. :laugh: And congrats on diagnosing and fixing the problem!

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        glennPattonWork3
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        Diagonsing, I am not too sure about looked for the burnt patch, see a componet that is white with black legs which has the designation D4. Replace diode with a 4001 plug in board, LCD comes alive! Joy, board is still getting a bit hotter than I would like. Also the board lives in a below ground cuppboard, not sure how lightning got to it?

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          Congrats, always nice when something goes right!

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          glennPattonWork3
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          Once in a while, restores your faith that you are quite good at fault finding...

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          • J jeron1

            It's good to have a win once in a while. :thumbsup:

            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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            glennPattonWork3
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            Guilt of the sin of pride. I am quite good at fault finding hey, I cause enough of 'em.

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            • G glennPattonWork3

              Once in a while, restores your faith that you are quite good at fault finding...

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              Mike Hankey
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              I learned a long time ago that; "One atta-boy wipes out a whole bunch of ah shits"

              Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine for those I can not! PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - An updated version available! JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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              • G glennPattonWork3

                Guilt of the sin of pride. I am quite good at fault finding hey, I cause enough of 'em.

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                jeron1
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                glennPattonWork3 wrote:

                hey, I cause enough of 'em.

                I'm not the only one? :laugh:

                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                • G glennPattonWork3

                  Diagonsing, I am not too sure about looked for the burnt patch, see a componet that is white with black legs which has the designation D4. Replace diode with a 4001 plug in board, LCD comes alive! Joy, board is still getting a bit hotter than I would like. Also the board lives in a below ground cuppboard, not sure how lightning got to it?

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                  Matthew Dennis
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                  A 4001 can handle quite a bit of current. It is possible that the voltage regulator is on the fritz, and you are getting excessive voltage/current. If this is the case, the 4001 may survive, but something else is likely to fry. I've also seen similar failures when there is a shorted, incorrect, or reversed Zener diode in the voltage regulation circuitry. Enjoy Level 2. BTW, its been a long time since I did this kind of stuff, so take this with a pound of salt.

                  "Mistakes are prevented by Experience. Experience is gained by making mistakes."

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                  • M Matthew Dennis

                    A 4001 can handle quite a bit of current. It is possible that the voltage regulator is on the fritz, and you are getting excessive voltage/current. If this is the case, the 4001 may survive, but something else is likely to fry. I've also seen similar failures when there is a shorted, incorrect, or reversed Zener diode in the voltage regulation circuitry. Enjoy Level 2. BTW, its been a long time since I did this kind of stuff, so take this with a pound of salt.

                    "Mistakes are prevented by Experience. Experience is gained by making mistakes."

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                    glennPattonWork3
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                    The reason I used a 4001, I had some. I don't think there is a Zener issue is the board is how do I put it, Questionable (bodged soldering, resistors tacked on wire links, hopefully it's version 1 of the board) in the places I have worked previously it would not have released, some how it has worked for close to nine years. Mind you testing it on the bench it seems to get VERY hot, getting to play with the Thermal Camera tomorrow. Seems like many things I have cured the result not the issue.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

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                      And never forget... "The cake is a lie"

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                      • G glennPattonWork3

                        Diagonsing, I am not too sure about looked for the burnt patch, see a componet that is white with black legs which has the designation D4. Replace diode with a 4001 plug in board, LCD comes alive! Joy, board is still getting a bit hotter than I would like. Also the board lives in a below ground cuppboard, not sure how lightning got to it?

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                        englebart
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                        I have had multiple lightning hits. One bolt hit a tree about 100ft from my house, found the copper DSL line in my yard and rode that into the modem. Thankfully the modem took the hit and saved the downstream network equipment. I have fiber optic cable now, so I hope that is future proofed from lightning. Second hit was a bit of a mystery, but it traveled on the coax and burned out a TV and it also got the dishwasher. TV provided a path?

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                          I have had multiple lightning hits. One bolt hit a tree about 100ft from my house, found the copper DSL line in my yard and rode that into the modem. Thankfully the modem took the hit and saved the downstream network equipment. I have fiber optic cable now, so I hope that is future proofed from lightning. Second hit was a bit of a mystery, but it traveled on the coax and burned out a TV and it also got the dishwasher. TV provided a path?

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                          glennPattonWork3
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                          Lightning strikes are weird. The second one what happened 'probably' was the coax to the TV (I'm guessing CRT?), the Antenna socket was inductively coupled to the Earth, which I'm guessing the Kitchen was next to meaning same wiring spur got the zap up the wiring and as it was in standby the switch mode was not powered up meaning the Earth and Ground were not connected (being switch by the power supply) as white good for certifaction have to have earth points all over them the neutral and earth line will be seperated and a 'spark jumped' between earth and negative taking the easiest path, most likely the board traces. Splat. :sigh: Lighting cool to watch, by make sure everything has a lighting protector (basically a couple MOVs) to take the hit. Sorry for the long answer I was thinking about it when I went to bed.

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                          • G glennPattonWork3

                            Hi All, Feeling Happy!! Why when ever I fix anything is it never night time or a thunder storm with forked lighting. Just need a white coat and I will be a "mad" scientist, while not not properly bats in the belfry insane just slightly deranged. I have fix the auto door lock/ clocking in mechanism for less £0.50, it was diode that had immolated itself. The question is why... Just grabbing everyone I can to show them it's alive!!! :-D

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                            BillWoodruff
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                            this one ? [^]

                            «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                            • B BillWoodruff

                              this one ? [^]

                              «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                              glennPattonWork3
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                              Yes, Yes, I need one also an Igor if there one floating around.

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