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  • H honey the codewitch

    It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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    Kenneth Haugland
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    If you go back a decade or more, I thought back then that the Q&A was quite toxic. IIRC some new guidelines were posted and enforced in order to make it a more pleasant experience for beginners.

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      honey the codewitch wrote:

      some therapy

      It seems in your case it works perfectly :laugh: However pay attention to the small prints - next session is a paid one!

      "If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg

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      jmaida
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      :) ditto

      "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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      • K Kenneth Haugland

        If you go back a decade or more, I thought back then that the Q&A was quite toxic. IIRC some new guidelines were posted and enforced in order to make it a more pleasant experience for beginners.

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        honey the codewitch
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        I'm glad I missed that. :~ I visited a decade ago but on a different account that mysteriously stopped working on me, but also I just lurked and didn't really visit Q&A.

        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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        • K Kenneth Haugland

          If you go back a decade or more, I thought back then that the Q&A was quite toxic. IIRC some new guidelines were posted and enforced in order to make it a more pleasant experience for beginners.

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          Daniel Pfeffer
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          True. And as for the Soapbox... Personally, I liked having a place where I could rant with (mostly) intelligent people, but I understand why the hamsters decided to remove it.

          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          • H honey the codewitch

            It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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            Marc Clifton
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            And you are also a big part of making this community a great place!

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            • H honey the codewitch

              It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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              Ron Anders
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              I too am grateful for this place for the same reasons. What still amazes me is how it retains it's friendly culture still, mostly anyway.

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              • H honey the codewitch

                It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                jschell
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                honey the codewitch wrote:

                I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere.

                I remember very long ago on a UsetNet forum where the author of one book (and several later) on the technical subject would routinely attack anyone that asked a question that was remotely simple on the forum for that subject. He would respond not just with RTFM but with often quite a bit of ire directed at the poster. Just surprised me that despite how good his books were at teaching that apparently actually answering questions (or just skipping the question) seemed beyond him.

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                  BillWoodruff
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                  Quote:

                  I'm grateful for this place.

                  i read this as "I'm grateful for the people who create this place." without critical intention: here, you found a place you could redefine a forum, and become a "star." :-D more power to you !

                  «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                    Quote:

                    I'm grateful for this place.

                    i read this as "I'm grateful for the people who create this place." without critical intention: here, you found a place you could redefine a forum, and become a "star." :-D more power to you !

                    «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    Yes, that is what I mean, when I say "this place" - I mean "this community", not just "this website" It is the people here who make the difference. Regardless of me. I'm glad I can come into this place, ask a question, share a thought, post an article, and for the most part, it's a positive experience.

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      Yes, that is what I mean, when I say "this place" - I mean "this community", not just "this website" It is the people here who make the difference. Regardless of me. I'm glad I can come into this place, ask a question, share a thought, post an article, and for the most part, it's a positive experience.

                      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                      BillWoodruff
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                      well, you altered my initial perceptions of you and your behavior, in the context of seeing/realizing the entire gestalt of the lounge was drifting into more trivia, less liveliness :) if you teach me, you are my mentor, if you challenge me, you may catalyze my transformation, if you point out my mistakes, you are my teacher. going forward, i keep thinking you and/or Marc Clinton could conjure a singularity that could give C# .NET highly compressed generic DSL creation tools, or decision table tools. :) ... yeah, i like to think of work other people could do: the vice of presumption! cheers, bill

                      «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                        Andre Oosthuizen
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                        Hitting the proverbial nail on the head!! I left such a community a few years back (one of the largest, now going through a moderator strike - aghumm :rolleyes: ) because of the 'victimization', 'mine is longer than yours' and plain out 'arrogance' where learning/teaching became a thing of the past and a 'I am the boss, do what I say' attitude ruled the day. Thank you CP for having us, we are not perfect either, most of us that is ;P , but the communal interaction and comradery is definitely something to write home about!

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                          charlieg
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                          This place is fantastic, but I'm trying to get my head around anyone trying to go mano a mano :) with the likes of you. Some of your posts are just intimidatingly complex.

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                            Keefer S
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                            I am in total agreement with your statement on all points. I recently got certified (PMP) as a Project Manager. I did well on the 180 question certification test, however there is supposedly a 1st time failure rate of up to 60% on the 210 test. I prepared diligently for the test and am happy to share my study/prep techniques. The PMP core values are built on responsibility, respect, honesty, and fairness. These values for me also mean helping out those around me that I interact with. This community has been awesome and thankfully I've seen very little condescending self-righteousness on here. I love it! Great post. :)

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                              VE2
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                              Me too! I'm 80 years old and after being involved with computers for some 40 years I don't program anymore...but I read this newsletter every day!

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                              • K Kenneth Haugland

                                If you go back a decade or more, I thought back then that the Q&A was quite toxic. IIRC some new guidelines were posted and enforced in order to make it a more pleasant experience for beginners.

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                                Lost User
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                                I still think Q&A is just a temporary thingy :)

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                • H honey the codewitch

                                  It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                                  MSBassSinger
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                                  Good observation. I love helping teach others what I know, and I like learning from others. Where I draw the line, and give up trying to share what I know, is when the person doesn’t want to learn or has an attitude similar to “OK, Boomer.” When I was young in the software development industry, I learned from older coworkers. Some of them were old, grumpy, WWII farts, but I learned to look beyond that, show respect, listen, learn, and build on that. I excelled in my work then and now because of that. They are dead now, but what they taught me lives on in my work, adapted for today’s newer technologies.

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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    I don't think anyone has said it yet, so as a long-time CP member I will: You're welcome. Chris and company deserve an immense amount of credit for providing resources for folks in the trenches. This is especially true for those of us in Microsoft houses, given the steady decline in the quantity and quality of MS support in the face of their yeast-colony growth in complexity. Culturally Code Project has always maintained a welcoming stance, and has occasionally made significant changes to ensure that remained the case. I've been here for over 20 years, and I've enjoyed it. It might be a little late, but welcome in.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      It's not perfect, but it's miles (or kilometers if you prefer) better than other communities out there online for the most part. Primadonnas in tech are a dime a dozen, and they haunt a lot of places online, not just the workplace. I recently ran into some on a discord server. They are so tiresome. I told them in my experience the real talent helps other people get good, and the punters waste everyone's time talking trash. It shouldn't bother me, but what does bother me about it is some people are so desperate to feel like they're better than other people that they can't even play well with others for any length of time. Get some therapy. I've seen it here, but it's nowhere near as bad as I've found elsewhere. Thanks to the regular contributors here who make this a positive place to be rather than turning everything into a d*** measuring contest.

                                      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx

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                                      Choroid
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                                      I joined here 9 years ago Total novice trying to use Java to make my printer print text. I did not know how to format my code when I posted the question. I had some unfriendly interactions on Stack Overflow so when Richard MacCutchan guided me first on how to post my code. Direct but Polite it was enjoyable Slow Forward a number of years and reading post in the Lounge and making a realization this forum has a lot of very talented people not only in programming computers but knowledge about their hobbies and thoughts on other aspects of life With no close friends that write code I am grateful for this place because of ALL who contribute their View and answers to questions YES Thank You to ALL of You

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                                        Me too! I'm 80 years old and after being involved with computers for some 40 years I don't program anymore...but I read this newsletter every day!

                                        73

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                                        dandy72
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                                        VE2 wrote:

                                        I'm 80 years old and after being involved with computers for some 40 years I don't program anymore

                                        I'm reading this (catching up with old threads), and thinking to myself, man, the stories this guy must have. I'm 51 and have nothing but a tremendous amount of respect for those who came before me. I don't remember seeing your name much in the lounge, so I'll say this: I encourage you to share your thoughts whenever you think you have something to contribute to a thread (or start new ones altogether). I'm sure you have some pearls of wisdom that you simply don't think of as such. We'll deal with any "ok boomer" type of response. They tend not to get very far. :-)

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                                          VE2 wrote:

                                          I'm 80 years old and after being involved with computers for some 40 years I don't program anymore

                                          I'm reading this (catching up with old threads), and thinking to myself, man, the stories this guy must have. I'm 51 and have nothing but a tremendous amount of respect for those who came before me. I don't remember seeing your name much in the lounge, so I'll say this: I encourage you to share your thoughts whenever you think you have something to contribute to a thread (or start new ones altogether). I'm sure you have some pearls of wisdom that you simply don't think of as such. We'll deal with any "ok boomer" type of response. They tend not to get very far. :-)

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                                          VE2
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                                          Thank you for your kind comments! I've seen quite a few changes along the way - from a walk-in Cray computer that filled a whole floor to my latest I just got today, a mini i9 that fits in my hand!

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