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    The two top categories that I feel that AI has the most beneficial use currently and in the future for the human species is: Medical (diagnosis and optimal procedure recommendations, in particular) Deep space exploration Every time I think of this subject, these two categories are always at the top of the list. There are literally thousands of non-beneficial categories and scenarios, but I won't go into those here for obvious reasons.

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      The two top categories that I feel that AI has the most beneficial use currently and in the future for the human species is: Medical (diagnosis and optimal procedure recommendations, in particular) Deep space exploration Every time I think of this subject, these two categories are always at the top of the list. There are literally thousands of non-beneficial categories and scenarios, but I won't go into those here for obvious reasons.

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      Slacker007 wrote:

      Medical

      An AI model is only as good as the data fed to it. Don't we have enough bungling doctors who couldn't read an X-ray even if their own lives were at stake?

      Slacker007 wrote:

      Deep space exploration

      Yup. Keep those AIs as far as possible from the rest of us.

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        The two top categories that I feel that AI has the most beneficial use currently and in the future for the human species is: Medical (diagnosis and optimal procedure recommendations, in particular) Deep space exploration Every time I think of this subject, these two categories are always at the top of the list. There are literally thousands of non-beneficial categories and scenarios, but I won't go into those here for obvious reasons.

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        Deep space exploration is a great option. Personally, I'm more concerned about what the people will be doing since I would imagine we're still a generation or two away from the robot uprising. :laugh: One thing's for sure, the economy is about to change with AI. Throughout history humans have always wanted to control others. Not all of it was bad. Some of it was, like with sl****y. But, there are quite a few directionless peeps out there that just exist. Eat, Poop, Procreate, Die. Historically, they got jobs, served the king, etc. and let someone else give them direction. That part of human nature isn't about to change. But, what is about to change is, we're about to have billions of people no longer needed to do mundane work. They already have a few fully automatic, robotic McDonald's in existence. The backbone of any economy - truckers - will end up being self-driving and automated. And so on. It's just a matter of time. The question is, what are we going to do with billions of directionless people once AI takes their job? What's currently being proposed is UBI btw, which will do more harm than good but I'll elaborate on that in a different post. Curious to know other's thoughts about what we're going to do.

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          Deep space exploration is a great option. Personally, I'm more concerned about what the people will be doing since I would imagine we're still a generation or two away from the robot uprising. :laugh: One thing's for sure, the economy is about to change with AI. Throughout history humans have always wanted to control others. Not all of it was bad. Some of it was, like with sl****y. But, there are quite a few directionless peeps out there that just exist. Eat, Poop, Procreate, Die. Historically, they got jobs, served the king, etc. and let someone else give them direction. That part of human nature isn't about to change. But, what is about to change is, we're about to have billions of people no longer needed to do mundane work. They already have a few fully automatic, robotic McDonald's in existence. The backbone of any economy - truckers - will end up being self-driving and automated. And so on. It's just a matter of time. The question is, what are we going to do with billions of directionless people once AI takes their job? What's currently being proposed is UBI btw, which will do more harm than good but I'll elaborate on that in a different post. Curious to know other's thoughts about what we're going to do.

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          I have said it before and it is common sense really, but there is a political war raging right now behind the scenes over which political cabal will control AI. That's all I am going to say, because the rest is political and I have been banned from this site twice already, I don't want a third go at it. :laugh: EVERTHING is political, even religion. AI is no exception.

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            The two top categories that I feel that AI has the most beneficial use currently and in the future for the human species is: Medical (diagnosis and optimal procedure recommendations, in particular) Deep space exploration Every time I think of this subject, these two categories are always at the top of the list. There are literally thousands of non-beneficial categories and scenarios, but I won't go into those here for obvious reasons.

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            I've been musing over how AI will control even more of Investment Management (when compared with the computer models used to manage investments). As AI controls more of businesses, and AI controls more of the investments into (and out of) those businesses I'm very curious to see what the results will be. I also am thinking how it will become even more difficult to raise children - already very difficult with today's technology.

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              I have said it before and it is common sense really, but there is a political war raging right now behind the scenes over which political cabal will control AI. That's all I am going to say, because the rest is political and I have been banned from this site twice already, I don't want a third go at it. :laugh: EVERTHING is political, even religion. AI is no exception.

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              Slacker007 wrote:

              I have been banned from this site twice already, I don't want a third go at it

              I have a hunch that you and I would agree on some of those taboo sentiments. Without getting political either, I'll just say that "indoor dwellers" that never really got out of the house and thus have no real-life experience tend to worship the TV. Generally speaking, TV is less interesting people watching fake stories about people pretending to be slightly more interesting. Thus, the more boring the person, the more exciting the almighty TV. It's why kids cling to it. They're still young and learning to develop their qualities that would make them interesting and experienced. The Internet is an extension of that. It's some people's God. The amount of people who argue online with absolutely no experience in the subject matter is crazy, for instance. These people that never develop past that stage also need the system to think. All of us depend on the system somewhat for survival, but not all of us are mentally subservient to it. But, quite a few are, and they'll defend their master violently if needed. All because critical thinking, looking inward, and accepting reality takes a bit of inner strength. They teach you in acting class that the goal of any show, play, etc. is to create conflict. In a movie the protagonist is supposed to overcome this conflict. However, it's the conflict that gives them reason. A purpose. Same goes for the news. Whether you're a conspiracy theorist or not, we can all agree that conflicts can be distracting. One has to wonder if there could be anything else going in the midst of a distraction. Anyone who can't even entertain the possibility of the almighty TV being wrong or leveraged will never change. It doesn't take long to spend time doing just a bit of research to find out all of the media is controled by a few people for instance - all of it. Don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to accept that fact.

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                I've been musing over how AI will control even more of Investment Management (when compared with the computer models used to manage investments). As AI controls more of businesses, and AI controls more of the investments into (and out of) those businesses I'm very curious to see what the results will be. I also am thinking how it will become even more difficult to raise children - already very difficult with today's technology.

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                AI will even influence how we think about money. Ever since the humanity thought up of trading something of value, whether it be a rock or a goat, for something else they considered valuable... money (goats are a form of monney) has always centered around the idea of intrinsic value. If UBI (Universal Basic Income) is the idea floating around to address tons of people being out of jobs due to AI. Forget the start of it, imagine the next 1,000 years of people getting used to getting money for nothing. The next round of new politicians will always promise new crap. Just like any other fake momentary system it gets out of hand. Then we end up with an inflated UBI based on people doing nothing for it (except giving up their freedom, but I digress). Which means, future money will have no intrinsic value. Which is impossible. Which means money will be a concept of the past, in the way we see it now. Also, curious to know how that would affect investments if we have no concept of money (value).

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                  I've been musing over how AI will control even more of Investment Management (when compared with the computer models used to manage investments). As AI controls more of businesses, and AI controls more of the investments into (and out of) those businesses I'm very curious to see what the results will be. I also am thinking how it will become even more difficult to raise children - already very difficult with today's technology.

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                  Craig Robbins wrote:

                  how AI will control even more of Investment Management

                  AI will control investment management under the parameters of its master. Now, whether or not those controls are in your best interest, or the management company, remains to be seen, but I think we both know that answer to this question. :sigh:

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                    The two top categories that I feel that AI has the most beneficial use currently and in the future for the human species is: Medical (diagnosis and optimal procedure recommendations, in particular) Deep space exploration Every time I think of this subject, these two categories are always at the top of the list. There are literally thousands of non-beneficial categories and scenarios, but I won't go into those here for obvious reasons.

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                    Maybe put an AI autonomous robot in a Tesla and shoot it into space to show the universe how cool we are?

                    I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.1.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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                      Maybe put an AI autonomous robot in a Tesla and shoot it into space to show the universe how cool we are?

                      I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.1.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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                      Mike Hankey wrote:

                      to show the universe how cool we are

                      The universe has been laughing at us for a very, very long time now. I can assure you, without a shadow of doubt, no Tesla is going to change that. :laugh:

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                        Mike Hankey wrote:

                        to show the universe how cool we are

                        The universe has been laughing at us for a very, very long time now. I can assure you, without a shadow of doubt, no Tesla is going to change that. :laugh:

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                        One alien to another passing by earth; Wanna stop see what's going on? Nah there's no intelligent life there.

                        I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.1.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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                          The two top categories that I feel that AI has the most beneficial use currently and in the future for the human species is: Medical (diagnosis and optimal procedure recommendations, in particular) Deep space exploration Every time I think of this subject, these two categories are always at the top of the list. There are literally thousands of non-beneficial categories and scenarios, but I won't go into those here for obvious reasons.

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                          One area I think it could be very useful in in analysing code in large and complex systems to help developers when debugging issues. I could really do with this sometimes, so that I could ask the system "how is this particular value for x generated" and I could be given a map of how that value was derived rather than have to spend potentially hours to get there. I work on systems where it can take hours and sometimes even weeks to debug and figure out an issue.

                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                            One area I think it could be very useful in in analysing code in large and complex systems to help developers when debugging issues. I could really do with this sometimes, so that I could ask the system "how is this particular value for x generated" and I could be given a map of how that value was derived rather than have to spend potentially hours to get there. I work on systems where it can take hours and sometimes even weeks to debug and figure out an issue.

                            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                            Another cool use will be robot girlfriends.

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                              Another cool use will be robot girlfriends.

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                              She is the latest in technology Almost mythology But she has a heart of stone She has an IQ of one thousand and one She has a jumpsuit on And she's also a telephone

                              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                                Slacker007 wrote:

                                I have been banned from this site twice already, I don't want a third go at it

                                I have a hunch that you and I would agree on some of those taboo sentiments. Without getting political either, I'll just say that "indoor dwellers" that never really got out of the house and thus have no real-life experience tend to worship the TV. Generally speaking, TV is less interesting people watching fake stories about people pretending to be slightly more interesting. Thus, the more boring the person, the more exciting the almighty TV. It's why kids cling to it. They're still young and learning to develop their qualities that would make them interesting and experienced. The Internet is an extension of that. It's some people's God. The amount of people who argue online with absolutely no experience in the subject matter is crazy, for instance. These people that never develop past that stage also need the system to think. All of us depend on the system somewhat for survival, but not all of us are mentally subservient to it. But, quite a few are, and they'll defend their master violently if needed. All because critical thinking, looking inward, and accepting reality takes a bit of inner strength. They teach you in acting class that the goal of any show, play, etc. is to create conflict. In a movie the protagonist is supposed to overcome this conflict. However, it's the conflict that gives them reason. A purpose. Same goes for the news. Whether you're a conspiracy theorist or not, we can all agree that conflicts can be distracting. One has to wonder if there could be anything else going in the midst of a distraction. Anyone who can't even entertain the possibility of the almighty TV being wrong or leveraged will never change. It doesn't take long to spend time doing just a bit of research to find out all of the media is controled by a few people for instance - all of it. Don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to accept that fact.

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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                The amount of people who argue online with absolutely no experience in the subject matter is crazy, for instance.

                                But, but, but... xkcd: Duty Calls[^]

                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                It doesn't take long to spend time doing just a bit of research to find out all of the media is controled by a few people for instance - all of it. Don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to accept that fact.

                                You are right... you only need a working brain, and sadly common sense is not that common

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                                  to show the universe how cool we are

                                  The universe has been laughing at us for a very, very long time now. I can assure you, without a shadow of doubt, no Tesla is going to change that. :laugh:

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                                  Slacker007 wrote:

                                  I can assure you, without a shadow of doubt, no Tesla is going to change that.

                                  I would say, it would make it even worse :rolleyes: ;P :laugh:

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    AI will even influence how we think about money. Ever since the humanity thought up of trading something of value, whether it be a rock or a goat, for something else they considered valuable... money (goats are a form of monney) has always centered around the idea of intrinsic value. If UBI (Universal Basic Income) is the idea floating around to address tons of people being out of jobs due to AI. Forget the start of it, imagine the next 1,000 years of people getting used to getting money for nothing. The next round of new politicians will always promise new crap. Just like any other fake momentary system it gets out of hand. Then we end up with an inflated UBI based on people doing nothing for it (except giving up their freedom, but I digress). Which means, future money will have no intrinsic value. Which is impossible. Which means money will be a concept of the past, in the way we see it now. Also, curious to know how that would affect investments if we have no concept of money (value).

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                                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                    Which means, future money will have no intrinsic value. Which is impossible. Which means money will be a concept of the past, in the way we see it now. Also, curious to know how that would affect investments if we have no concept of money (value).

                                    A nice Utopia is the way Star Trek "world" works

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      Deep space exploration is a great option. Personally, I'm more concerned about what the people will be doing since I would imagine we're still a generation or two away from the robot uprising. :laugh: One thing's for sure, the economy is about to change with AI. Throughout history humans have always wanted to control others. Not all of it was bad. Some of it was, like with sl****y. But, there are quite a few directionless peeps out there that just exist. Eat, Poop, Procreate, Die. Historically, they got jobs, served the king, etc. and let someone else give them direction. That part of human nature isn't about to change. But, what is about to change is, we're about to have billions of people no longer needed to do mundane work. They already have a few fully automatic, robotic McDonald's in existence. The backbone of any economy - truckers - will end up being self-driving and automated. And so on. It's just a matter of time. The question is, what are we going to do with billions of directionless people once AI takes their job? What's currently being proposed is UBI btw, which will do more harm than good but I'll elaborate on that in a different post. Curious to know other's thoughts about what we're going to do.

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                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      what are we going to do with billions of directionless people once AI takes their job?

                                      revolutions, wars, mutual annihilation.

                                      «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                                        The two top categories that I feel that AI has the most beneficial use currently and in the future for the human species is: Medical (diagnosis and optimal procedure recommendations, in particular) Deep space exploration Every time I think of this subject, these two categories are always at the top of the list. There are literally thousands of non-beneficial categories and scenarios, but I won't go into those here for obvious reasons.

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                                          She is the latest in technology Almost mythology But she has a heart of stone She has an IQ of one thousand and one She has a jumpsuit on And she's also a telephone

                                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                          You should at least give a reference to the song you quote: Yours Truly, 2095 - Electric Light Orchestra (ELO)

                                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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