Is it just me, or are...
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I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a high-end laptop/PC and would have no issue paying $6,000 USD for such. Is it worth it? Hell no!
Yeah... I mean... I won't go broke... but.. ya know... that's also the price of a car or one hell of a weekend with a call g*** (can't say and be kid sister friendly).
Jeremy Falcon
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My wife wants a new laptop -- she said her current one cost about $600 USD, and that she expects to pay around that. I told her I would expect to pay about $2000 USD if I ever buy one for myself (I have no plans to buy myself a laptop). I might build myself new desktop (mini-tower) PC soon, and probably $2000 USD would be about right, but I have no idea now that Fry's Electronics is gone ( :sigh: ) -- I suppose NewEgg may be in my future. Edit: My needs are simple, I'm a developer, I don't game, I don't watch video on a PC, I can make do with the on-board graphics just fine.
I'm considering upgrading my GPU (From an ancient GTX660Ti to a RTX 4060), and NewEgg want £10 more than Amazon for the same card, from the same manufacturer ... shipping is free on both as well.
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My wife wants a new laptop -- she said her current one cost about $600 USD, and that she expects to pay around that. I told her I would expect to pay about $2000 USD if I ever buy one for myself (I have no plans to buy myself a laptop). I might build myself new desktop (mini-tower) PC soon, and probably $2000 USD would be about right, but I have no idea now that Fry's Electronics is gone ( :sigh: ) -- I suppose NewEgg may be in my future. Edit: My needs are simple, I'm a developer, I don't game, I don't watch video on a PC, I can make do with the on-board graphics just fine.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I might build myself new desktop (mini-tower) PC soon, and probably $2000 USD would be about right, but I have no idea now that Fry's Electronics is gone ( :sigh: ) -- I suppose NewEgg may be in my future.
A lot of the price is the GPU. Apparently the price gouging that happened during the pandemic hasn't reverted back to sane prices. Probably never will. Starting to think you might be onto something since I don't need the latest and greatest GPU and a desktop gives you more customizability. Funny thing about laptops... I love them but never really haul them around. Only if I'm changing office locations, but that's not a daily thing. Can haul a tower too.
Jeremy Falcon
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...computers getting too expensive? So, here I am, trying to stop myself from buying a new laptop since my current one is about 5 years old. Ain't gonna lie, I'm this close to it. But for a new higher end laptop and monitor (to last another 5 years) it's about $5.6K USD once you add in the extended warranties so the company you buy from doesn't tell you to p1ss off if something goes wrong. That's like 6K... homes used to cost that much. Probably 1K of that is just the GPU. How on Earth do companies honestly expect non-techy folks to drop that kinda money?
Jeremy Falcon
The video cards are getting expensive as some mid-range systems. Top end cards are the price of a whole PC from a couple of years ago! Check out this video to see how ridiculously large they're getting: Testing the Nvidia RTX 4090 - YouTube[^]
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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The video cards are getting expensive as some mid-range systems. Top end cards are the price of a whole PC from a couple of years ago! Check out this video to see how ridiculously large they're getting: Testing the Nvidia RTX 4090 - YouTube[^]
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
That video is hilarious. Pretty soon, GPUs will be able to time travel too.
Jeremy Falcon
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Yeah... I mean... I won't go broke... but.. ya know... that's also the price of a car or one hell of a weekend with a call g*** (can't say and be kid sister friendly).
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
that's also the price of a car
Really? They sell cars that cheap? Very, very used I am guessing. Wow, I have shown my ignorance of such things. Ugh.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
that's also the price of a car
Really? They sell cars that cheap? Very, very used I am guessing. Wow, I have shown my ignorance of such things. Ugh.
Yeah, like a starter, teenager car. Then again, I might be showing my age. :laugh: Cuz you know, _back in my day..._
Jeremy Falcon
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My wife wants a new laptop -- she said her current one cost about $600 USD, and that she expects to pay around that. I told her I would expect to pay about $2000 USD if I ever buy one for myself (I have no plans to buy myself a laptop). I might build myself new desktop (mini-tower) PC soon, and probably $2000 USD would be about right, but I have no idea now that Fry's Electronics is gone ( :sigh: ) -- I suppose NewEgg may be in my future. Edit: My needs are simple, I'm a developer, I don't game, I don't watch video on a PC, I can make do with the on-board graphics just fine.
I have enough monitors, drives (internal and external), network accessories, cases, etc. I can get by with a new motherboard and cpu, for starters.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
computers getting too expensive?
yes. So are 3 egg omelets. pre pandemic: 3 egg omelets, home-fries, toast $8 US. post pandemic: $15+ pre pandemic: groceries for my family and I approx. $250 post pandemic: $500+ (for the same damn things we have been buying for the last 10 years) Everything on planet earth has doubled or tripled in price, maybe even more for some things.
Slacker007 wrote:
Everything on planet earth has doubled or tripled in price, maybe even more for some things.
It's called inflation. Without that, governments cannot pay their debts.
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I have enough monitors, drives (internal and external), network accessories, cases, etc. I can get by with a new motherboard and cpu, for starters.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
Right. And maybe new/more RAM. And probably a bigger M.2 drive.
Right. And maybe new RAM. And probably a larger M.2 drive.
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...computers getting too expensive? So, here I am, trying to stop myself from buying a new laptop since my current one is about 5 years old. Ain't gonna lie, I'm this close to it. But for a new higher end laptop and monitor (to last another 5 years) it's about $5.6K USD once you add in the extended warranties so the company you buy from doesn't tell you to p1ss off if something goes wrong. That's like 6K... homes used to cost that much. Probably 1K of that is just the GPU. How on Earth do companies honestly expect non-techy folks to drop that kinda money?
Jeremy Falcon
In Israel, a Lenovo laptop (Intel Core i9, 64GB RAM, NVidia RTX 4070) sells for about NIS 12,000 (USD 3,200). A 4K 31".5 screen (Samsung/Philips/Lenovo) can be had for under NIS 2,000 (USD 540). You are being robbed.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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...computers getting too expensive? So, here I am, trying to stop myself from buying a new laptop since my current one is about 5 years old. Ain't gonna lie, I'm this close to it. But for a new higher end laptop and monitor (to last another 5 years) it's about $5.6K USD once you add in the extended warranties so the company you buy from doesn't tell you to p1ss off if something goes wrong. That's like 6K... homes used to cost that much. Probably 1K of that is just the GPU. How on Earth do companies honestly expect non-techy folks to drop that kinda money?
Jeremy Falcon
Absolutely true! I priced the new 64-core Threadripper and it's over $6,000!
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I might build myself new desktop (mini-tower) PC soon, and probably $2000 USD would be about right, but I have no idea now that Fry's Electronics is gone ( :sigh: ) -- I suppose NewEgg may be in my future.
A lot of the price is the GPU. Apparently the price gouging that happened during the pandemic hasn't reverted back to sane prices. Probably never will. Starting to think you might be onto something since I don't need the latest and greatest GPU and a desktop gives you more customizability. Funny thing about laptops... I love them but never really haul them around. Only if I'm changing office locations, but that's not a daily thing. Can haul a tower too.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
A lot of the price is the GPU. Apparently the price gouging that happened during the pandemic hasn't reverted back to sane prices. Probably never will.
Not really. I paid 1015€ for my AMD Razer 6900XT and today I saw the 6950XT (following model) for 599€. And SSD M.2 have gone way cheaper too. 4TB WD Black 850X PCI4.0 for 198€ and I paid 225€ for my Crucial P5 PCI3 2TB (in an offer)
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
A lot of the price is the GPU. Apparently the price gouging that happened during the pandemic hasn't reverted back to sane prices. Probably never will.
Not really. I paid 1015€ for my AMD Razer 6900XT and today I saw the 6950XT (following model) for 599€. And SSD M.2 have gone way cheaper too. 4TB WD Black 850X PCI4.0 for 198€ and I paid 225€ for my Crucial P5 PCI3 2TB (in an offer)
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Then, I dunno how the price breakdown is. I just know that for the laptop I want, what used to be a $3k laptop is now is $4k for the same thing (high end at the time of purchase).
Jeremy Falcon
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In Israel, a Lenovo laptop (Intel Core i9, 64GB RAM, NVidia RTX 4070) sells for about NIS 12,000 (USD 3,200). A 4K 31".5 screen (Samsung/Philips/Lenovo) can be had for under NIS 2,000 (USD 540). You are being robbed.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
You are being robbed.
I didn't buy yet. Fortunately still sitting in my shopping cart. Figured I'd swing by CP first. Will check out Lenovo over here at least to see if I can get a deal. Thanks.
Jeremy Falcon
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Absolutely true! I priced the new 64-core Threadripper and it's over $6,000!
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Time we take up pole dancing, mate.
Jeremy Falcon
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It's just a high end laptop with 2TB drive and 64GB memory and a 28" 144Hz monitor to go with it. $600 of that is just extended warranties / replacement (which is crazy). And I'm sure a third of the remainder is the GPU. Wouldn't surprise me. I don't need the graphics card, but I do want the 64GB RAM. Seems like it's all or none though. Not too many years ago, this would've been a 3K purchase for the same thing.
Jeremy Falcon
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You must be a graphics designer. That's the only reason I can think to have that much memory in a laptop. The price you're seeing is a result of the memory and SSD, nothing else.
I do like me some multi-tasking and future proofing. When it comes to laptops especially, since most are non-upgradable with their parts, better to go large once every 5 years because the next few versions of OSes to release will always take more umph.
Jeremy Falcon
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Then, I dunno how the price breakdown is. I just know that for the laptop I want, what used to be a $3k laptop is now is $4k for the same thing (high end at the time of purchase).
Jeremy Falcon
I don't know if Europa vs US has something to do with the price...
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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...computers getting too expensive? So, here I am, trying to stop myself from buying a new laptop since my current one is about 5 years old. Ain't gonna lie, I'm this close to it. But for a new higher end laptop and monitor (to last another 5 years) it's about $5.6K USD once you add in the extended warranties so the company you buy from doesn't tell you to p1ss off if something goes wrong. That's like 6K... homes used to cost that much. Probably 1K of that is just the GPU. How on Earth do companies honestly expect non-techy folks to drop that kinda money?
Jeremy Falcon
i bought this refurbished desktop [^] for peanuts . maybe you can buy 35 of the same and have quite a shop .
