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OLED vs IPS... to 4K or not to 4K?

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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

    Can I find the model name somewhere in Windows?

    If you have the drivers for it installed, it'll be listed under device manager.

    Jeremy Falcon

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    You're right, I should have known that, but my brain is in weekend mode. :-D

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    • J Jeremy Falcon

      Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

      Can I find the model name somewhere in Windows?

      If you have the drivers for it installed, it'll be listed under device manager.

      Jeremy Falcon

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      Device manager only says "Generic PnP Monitor". Well, that's frustrating!

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        Device manager only says "Generic PnP Monitor". Well, that's frustrating!

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        I'll keep searching, thanks for trying at least. As an aside, just found out there's something called QLED now... which isn't as nice as OLED but maybe there's a 4K version under $4k... :omg:

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          I'll keep searching, thanks for trying at least. As an aside, just found out there's something called QLED now... which isn't as nice as OLED but maybe there's a 4K version under $4k... :omg:

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          Good luck!

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            I remember back in the CRT days when LCDs first came out. Everyone knew LCDs had a slow refresh rate in comparison (at the time). Eventually, LCDs became the norm, people are finally like woo hoo 120Hz even though back in the day we had that all along. But to make the switch you gave up that sweet, sweet refresh rate. Fast forward to today. We have IPS displays because we've come that far. Except IPS is old and crusty apparently. OLED is where it's at. Cool. Expect one thing... Why are there no 4K OLED computer monitors out there? I can find QHD ones but no 4k. Noooope. I've had a 4K monitor for years now... not gonna be easy to go back. So here's the question, is QHD on an OLED still crisper? I never had one yet, but I somehow find it hard to believe an up or downscaled resolution would be as crisp as a native 4k resolution. Or is OLED that much better that QHD is still ok when scaled? Keep in mind, I'm not getting this monitor to game on and I know OLED has deeper blacks, better contrast, etc.... but no 4K? :omg:

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            VA & TN was left off. ref: Panel Types: IPS vs TN vs VA vs OLED[^] OLED will have burn-in issues. Being a programmer, our screens tend to be static, so this is an issue. I have an OLED tablet and played the same game for 3 years on it. I can see the UI burned in and can't get rid of it. IPS is the best choice for Clarity and viewing angle. 4K is good if you want to see a lot of code on your screen. With Visual studio I have the size of text in my code window set to 90% and on a 4K screen, I can see 130 lines of code at a time. The question is size and width. What can your eyes handle. for 4K, 27" is good, 32" is best. If you have 2, then that is 8K. You could get one that rotates for your main screen, then you will have even more lines of code at a time. An alternative is to go 49"ultra wide @ 5K or DQHD 5120x1440 with an aspect Ratio: 32:9. That is like having 2 x 27"side by side without bezels. Best with 1800R curve (ref: 1000R vs. 1500R vs. 1800R Curved Monitors - What’s the difference? Which one is better?[^]). Now, this allows for a lot more. I have one, it's 1800R, and for me, it is like having 3 screens in one - no juggling windows on the screen, they're all there. I can have VS in the middle, browser on my right, and left has team viewer and word or acrobat open with specs on my left. I use Powertoys with custom preset Zones/layouts. VS in fullscreen can comfortably have 6 code windows side by side. Also, with 2 inputs, I can split screen and have my Macbook Pro for Mac OS on the left, and my dev box with Windows on the right. Dell has an 8K monitor but at over US$4K, not worth our time looking at it - not cost effective for coding. ref: 8K Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp UP3218K | Dell USA[^] I miss the vertical height of a 4K screen (still have one), and whilst 5120 is

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              I found this one : [https://www.lg.com/us/business/oled-pro-monitors/lg-32bp95e-b\](https://www.lg.com/us/business/oled-pro-monitors/lg-32bp95e-b) But its currently out of stock. It also has a 4K price tag, so there's that as well.

              Keep Calm and Carry On

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              Better off getting a small OLED TV, it is far cheaper with very little difference, as you do not need that level of color accuracy unless working with video editing software.

              Graeme


              "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                VA & TN was left off. ref: Panel Types: IPS vs TN vs VA vs OLED[^] OLED will have burn-in issues. Being a programmer, our screens tend to be static, so this is an issue. I have an OLED tablet and played the same game for 3 years on it. I can see the UI burned in and can't get rid of it. IPS is the best choice for Clarity and viewing angle. 4K is good if you want to see a lot of code on your screen. With Visual studio I have the size of text in my code window set to 90% and on a 4K screen, I can see 130 lines of code at a time. The question is size and width. What can your eyes handle. for 4K, 27" is good, 32" is best. If you have 2, then that is 8K. You could get one that rotates for your main screen, then you will have even more lines of code at a time. An alternative is to go 49"ultra wide @ 5K or DQHD 5120x1440 with an aspect Ratio: 32:9. That is like having 2 x 27"side by side without bezels. Best with 1800R curve (ref: 1000R vs. 1500R vs. 1800R Curved Monitors - What’s the difference? Which one is better?[^]). Now, this allows for a lot more. I have one, it's 1800R, and for me, it is like having 3 screens in one - no juggling windows on the screen, they're all there. I can have VS in the middle, browser on my right, and left has team viewer and word or acrobat open with specs on my left. I use Powertoys with custom preset Zones/layouts. VS in fullscreen can comfortably have 6 code windows side by side. Also, with 2 inputs, I can split screen and have my Macbook Pro for Mac OS on the left, and my dev box with Windows on the right. Dell has an 8K monitor but at over US$4K, not worth our time looking at it - not cost effective for coding. ref: 8K Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp UP3218K | Dell USA[^] I miss the vertical height of a 4K screen (still have one), and whilst 5120 is

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Thanks for this writeup, it really helped a lot. For me, gonna stick with IPS. Mainly because I won't be watching movies or playing video games on my computer... got the living room TV for that. Looked at the 32" IPS options too and was close to getting one, but turns out the few I checked out weighed 10 pounds more than 28" ones. Since I don't have the most sturdy desk, my display is tucked in a corner (corner desk), and I'm already using a (older) 28" I know I can get by with one. Been using the laptop's display as a secondary screen as well, so I can continue that route. At the end of the day, settling on this bad boy. I'll be coming from a TN display, so hopefully should see some nice color differences. I'll save the OLED for the living room. Thanks again man.

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                • Graeme_GrantG Graeme_Grant

                  Better off getting a small OLED TV, it is far cheaper with very little difference, as you do not need that level of color accuracy unless working with video editing software.

                  Graeme


                  "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                  That's the route I'm gonna do. Don't really play games on my laptop and the switch, ps5, etc. is in the living room anyway. They can use an OLED, but for work and coding just going with IPS.

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Thanks for this writeup, it really helped a lot. For me, gonna stick with IPS. Mainly because I won't be watching movies or playing video games on my computer... got the living room TV for that. Looked at the 32" IPS options too and was close to getting one, but turns out the few I checked out weighed 10 pounds more than 28" ones. Since I don't have the most sturdy desk, my display is tucked in a corner (corner desk), and I'm already using a (older) 28" I know I can get by with one. Been using the laptop's display as a secondary screen as well, so I can continue that route. At the end of the day, settling on this bad boy. I'll be coming from a TN display, so hopefully should see some nice color differences. I'll save the OLED for the living room. Thanks again man.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    Looked at the 32" IPS options too and was close to getting one, but turns out the few I checked out weighed 10 pounds more than 28" ones

                    If you own your place, then look at an arm mounted to the wall. You will get desk space back, no weight on your desk, and can position it more freely. If you get a dual monitor arm, you can reuse the old monitor. ;) PS: Watch the NITS (ref: What Is a Nit of Screen Brightness and How Many Do You Need? - Make Tech Easier[^]) of the screen. I would not go below 350. Below 350, the sun will flatten the colours.

                    Graeme


                    "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      That's the route I'm gonna do. Don't really play games on my laptop and the switch, ps5, etc. is in the living room anyway. They can use an OLED, but for work and coding just going with IPS.

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      I have a 4k 27"IPS LG display. I would not go back to TN or VA. You will see the difference!

                      Graeme


                      "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                        Looked at the 32" IPS options too and was close to getting one, but turns out the few I checked out weighed 10 pounds more than 28" ones

                        If you own your place, then look at an arm mounted to the wall. You will get desk space back, no weight on your desk, and can position it more freely. If you get a dual monitor arm, you can reuse the old monitor. ;) PS: Watch the NITS (ref: What Is a Nit of Screen Brightness and How Many Do You Need? - Make Tech Easier[^]) of the screen. I would not go below 350. Below 350, the sun will flatten the colours.

                        Graeme


                        "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        I'm in a rental, but I don't think the landlord would care if I did do that. The only catch is... I'm literally facing a corner of the room, so if it were mounted on a wall I'd have to turn my head at an angle. Note to self, Ikea desks suck. :laugh:

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                          I'm in a rental, but I don't think the landlord would care if I did do that. The only catch is... I'm literally facing a corner of the room, so if it were mounted on a wall I'd have to turn my head at an angle. Note to self, Ikea desks suck. :laugh:

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                          Check for Studs, that's all that you need. It may not be right in the corner, but a foot or two from the corner... See if a mate has a stud finder, otherwise they're not that expensive.

                          Graeme


                          "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            Looked at the 32" IPS options too and was close to getting one, but turns out the few I checked out weighed 10 pounds more than 28" ones

                            If you own your place, then look at an arm mounted to the wall. You will get desk space back, no weight on your desk, and can position it more freely. If you get a dual monitor arm, you can reuse the old monitor. ;) PS: Watch the NITS (ref: What Is a Nit of Screen Brightness and How Many Do You Need? - Make Tech Easier[^]) of the screen. I would not go below 350. Below 350, the sun will flatten the colours.

                            Graeme


                            "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            Actually, come to think of it... I could just stick an extra 2x4 under the desk for support. Sometimes you gotta redneck it. :laugh:

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                            • Graeme_GrantG Graeme_Grant

                              Check for Studs, that's all that you need. It may not be right in the corner, but a foot or two from the corner... See if a mate has a stud finder, otherwise they're not that expensive.

                              Graeme


                              "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              You've got me thinking... I haven't clicked buy yet since I'm spending way too much money. Got the new laptop chosen. May look into mounting the monitor. Thanks man.

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                Actually, come to think of it... I could just stick an extra 2x4 under the desk for support. Sometimes you gotta redneck it. :laugh:

                                Jeremy Falcon

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                                The good thing about an arm mount is that where it mounts does not need to be centre, you position the monitor where you want it to be. So if you have a bookcase next to the desk, you could bolt it to that!

                                Graeme


                                "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                                • Graeme_GrantG Graeme_Grant

                                  The good thing about an arm mount is that where it mounts does not need to be centre, you position the monitor where you want it to be. So if you have a bookcase next to the desk, you could bolt it to that!

                                  Graeme


                                  "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  Good to know... thanks.

                                  Jeremy Falcon

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                                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                    I wish I had saved the box for it, cause I've no idea what the name of the model is. All I know is that it's LG brand and its 32 inches. Can I find the model name somewhere in Windows?

                                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                    Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                                    I wish I had saved the box for it, cause I've no idea what the name of the model is.

                                    I can't quite believe I am writing this, but wouldn't you expect to find a model number on the back of the monitor somewhere, if not the front?

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