Samsung Monitor (Smart TV) woes
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I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythe
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I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythe
I have an LG OLED 55" used only as TV. Image quality: super, functionality: meah. Their OS is called webOS and it's only merit is to be annoying. Comes complete with LG channels which are about as useful as your Samsung ones. Besides, to see them you have to accept conditions like LG monitoring everything you see. Data is absolutely safe and there have been no leaks. You probably have also to give rights to your first born child or something; wouldn't know as I stayed out of it. The remote control is also some type of mouse that you wave in front of the screen just like you probably do with your magic wand; should come natural to you, being a witch, but not to mere mortals like me. On the bright side, it remembers last input source. Isn't that nice?
Mircea
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I have an LG OLED 55" used only as TV. Image quality: super, functionality: meah. Their OS is called webOS and it's only merit is to be annoying. Comes complete with LG channels which are about as useful as your Samsung ones. Besides, to see them you have to accept conditions like LG monitoring everything you see. Data is absolutely safe and there have been no leaks. You probably have also to give rights to your first born child or something; wouldn't know as I stayed out of it. The remote control is also some type of mouse that you wave in front of the screen just like you probably do with your magic wand; should come natural to you, being a witch, but not to mere mortals like me. On the bright side, it remembers last input source. Isn't that nice?
Mircea
Mircea Neacsu wrote:
On the bright side, it remembers last input source. Isn't that nice?
That's the main thing for me. Another person with a Gen 2 told me the remote has source buttons on it. Does yours? If so I could deal with the annoying OS.
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Mircea Neacsu wrote:
On the bright side, it remembers last input source. Isn't that nice?
That's the main thing for me. Another person with a Gen 2 told me the remote has source buttons on it. Does yours? If so I could deal with the annoying OS.
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Mine has one "source" button. You press it and select with the wand/mouse the source you want.
Mircea
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Mine has one "source" button. You press it and select with the wand/mouse the source you want.
Mircea
That's half of what I want at least. Probably as good as I'll get with the source selection on a smart TV. Thanks so much for your input. :)
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That's half of what I want at least. Probably as good as I'll get with the source selection on a smart TV. Thanks so much for your input. :)
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
honey the codewitch wrote:
Thanks so much for your input.
One is glad to be of service :)
Mircea
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I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythe
I have a 40" LG 4K TV as my primary monitor, and honestly I'd have to look up the specs to determine whether it's OLED or not. As far as I'm concerned, the display is nice, it's got plenty of configuration options to tweak the defaults further (which I don't believe I've ever touched, except maybe for decreasing the brightness - everybody it seems is using their monitors like staring at the sun is a good thing). I've connected it to my wifi router once - never more. I forgot why I did that, maybe there was an update I was explicitly looking for. The damned thing didn't present any option to *disconnect* from the wifi; in the end, I believe to prevent it from doing that again, I actually changed my wifi password to something the TV doesn't know. My dad has a 70" Sony in his basement, bought at the time 3D was still a big thing. And yes, it was connected to wifi, and yes, at one point an update simply got rid of the 3D samples library, which was doing a fine job of showcasing the capability. Bottom line - never, ever let a so-called smart TV anywhere near the internet, unless you want to start losing functionality at one point or another. *All* manufacturers are guilty of that.
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I have a 40" LG 4K TV as my primary monitor, and honestly I'd have to look up the specs to determine whether it's OLED or not. As far as I'm concerned, the display is nice, it's got plenty of configuration options to tweak the defaults further (which I don't believe I've ever touched, except maybe for decreasing the brightness - everybody it seems is using their monitors like staring at the sun is a good thing). I've connected it to my wifi router once - never more. I forgot why I did that, maybe there was an update I was explicitly looking for. The damned thing didn't present any option to *disconnect* from the wifi; in the end, I believe to prevent it from doing that again, I actually changed my wifi password to something the TV doesn't know. My dad has a 70" Sony in his basement, bought at the time 3D was still a big thing. And yes, it was connected to wifi, and yes, at one point an update simply got rid of the 3D samples library, which was doing a fine job of showcasing the capability. Bottom line - never, ever let a so-called smart TV anywhere near the internet, unless you want to start losing functionality at one point or another. *All* manufacturers are guilty of that.
I appreciate the warning, but part of the appeal to me is the ability to tickle netflix with a remote from across the room, and no fuss. Seems like such a small thing, but for reasons it's very important for this device to be able to allow me that. Sure I can *live* without it, and just use my PC for that, but it actually significantly diminishes the chances I'll even flip netflix to a car show when I lay down for a nap or do some chores for example (that's about 75% of the use case for me). If I can't do it from across the room with a button click or two, it's just going to degrade my experience in my space - a little thing with a shockingly big impact.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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I appreciate the warning, but part of the appeal to me is the ability to tickle netflix with a remote from across the room, and no fuss. Seems like such a small thing, but for reasons it's very important for this device to be able to allow me that. Sure I can *live* without it, and just use my PC for that, but it actually significantly diminishes the chances I'll even flip netflix to a car show when I lay down for a nap or do some chores for example (that's about 75% of the use case for me). If I can't do it from across the room with a button click or two, it's just going to degrade my experience in my space - a little thing with a shockingly big impact.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
honey the codewitch wrote:
part of the appeal to me is the ability to tickle netflix
...I was about to say, that's a job for your computer to do, not the TV. They do have a client for most operating systems...
honey the codewitch wrote:
If I can't do it from across the room with a button click or two, it's just going to degrade my experience in my space
...but then I take it back, that's a fair point. Still would make me nervous though. Unless you know all addresses (from the manufacturer) the TV might try to access to update its firmware, and then block them all right in your router. Or, I suppose, if your router is sophisticated enough, block *everything* by default for a specific device (the TV), except for specific items (like Netflix). I'm liking that idea...
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honey the codewitch wrote:
part of the appeal to me is the ability to tickle netflix
...I was about to say, that's a job for your computer to do, not the TV. They do have a client for most operating systems...
honey the codewitch wrote:
If I can't do it from across the room with a button click or two, it's just going to degrade my experience in my space
...but then I take it back, that's a fair point. Still would make me nervous though. Unless you know all addresses (from the manufacturer) the TV might try to access to update its firmware, and then block them all right in your router. Or, I suppose, if your router is sophisticated enough, block *everything* by default for a specific device (the TV), except for specific items (like Netflix). I'm liking that idea...
dandy72 wrote:
Unless you know all addresses (from the manufacturer) the TV might try to access to update its firmware, and then block them all right in your router. Or, I suppose, if your router is sophisticated enough, block everything by default for a specific device (the TV), except for specific items (like Netflix). I'm liking that idea...
Yeah that would be really nice.
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dandy72 wrote:
Unless you know all addresses (from the manufacturer) the TV might try to access to update its firmware, and then block them all right in your router. Or, I suppose, if your router is sophisticated enough, block everything by default for a specific device (the TV), except for specific items (like Netflix). I'm liking that idea...
Yeah that would be really nice.
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I'm a Pi-Hole user and didn't know it could do this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/jig9w9/want\_to\_block\_websites\_for\_a\_specific\_device/\](https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/jig9w9/want\_to\_block\_websites\_for\_a\_specific\_device/) *Now* I'm intrigued...
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I'm a Pi-Hole user and didn't know it could do this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/jig9w9/want\_to\_block\_websites\_for\_a\_specific\_device/\](https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/jig9w9/want\_to\_block\_websites\_for\_a\_specific\_device/) *Now* I'm intrigued...
That's interesting. I may have to check those out. Do you know if they're at least 2Gbit capable? (sustained)
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythe
I have a 65'' LG OLED that recently (around 2 weeks ago) started losing it's last selected input. It sounds like the same behavior you described. It now requires either an input selection with the DirecTV remote and when that doesn't work, looking for the TV remote to select the input. :sigh: I liked it better before the firmware update! :| Other than that, it's the third LG TV I've owned and they've all been great with the exception of the first which developed an annoying 'cold joint'...it was fine after it warmed up...now it's a garage/workout room TV! :laugh:
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I have a 65'' LG OLED that recently (around 2 weeks ago) started losing it's last selected input. It sounds like the same behavior you described. It now requires either an input selection with the DirecTV remote and when that doesn't work, looking for the TV remote to select the input. :sigh: I liked it better before the firmware update! :| Other than that, it's the third LG TV I've owned and they've all been great with the exception of the first which developed an annoying 'cold joint'...it was fine after it warmed up...now it's a garage/workout room TV! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
Thanks
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That's interesting. I may have to check those out. Do you know if they're at least 2Gbit capable? (sustained)
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Pi-Hole is software. I do believe someone's made an actual box out of it, but I have no idea. I just use the software in a small Linux VM dedicated to it.
Ah okay. Yeah, I don't want to run an extra computer for that. I just don't have the space for it. Edit: routing all my traffic through my dev PC is untenable for reasons.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythe
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I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythe
I can't speak for their OLED stuff - I have a LG 42" TV which is about ten years old, and an IPS 22" LG monitor of similar vintage (plus two Samsungs) though. Oh, and an LG soundbar on the PC. LG certainly make reliable displays, and the picture quality is fine (though not 4K) and with only a small niggle in the HMI in that the monitor controls are a mini joystick tucked behind the monitor where it's annoying to use they have been fine for us. But then, the Samsung kit has been fine as well ... two monitors, Herself's main tablet, Herself's phone - all pretty good.
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I appreciate the warning, but part of the appeal to me is the ability to tickle netflix with a remote from across the room, and no fuss. Seems like such a small thing, but for reasons it's very important for this device to be able to allow me that. Sure I can *live* without it, and just use my PC for that, but it actually significantly diminishes the chances I'll even flip netflix to a car show when I lay down for a nap or do some chores for example (that's about 75% of the use case for me). If I can't do it from across the room with a button click or two, it's just going to degrade my experience in my space - a little thing with a shockingly big impact.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
