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  • J Jorgen Andersson

    Have you tried a cold start (unplug the electrics for a minute)? Funny things can happen to a Samsung TV if it runs out of memory. Anyway, this seems to have happened to more people than you. Apparently the reset in the normal menu is a softish reset that does not reset all data on the TV. There's a harder reset if you enter the Service menu, but to reach that you need a special remote where you can enter number combinations, you can apparently buy one at amazon.

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    honey the codewitch
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    I tried a factory reset. This isn't a glitch. Somebody in a boardroom said this: "Our Samsung TV streaming service isn't getting used. How do we increase "consumer engagement" with our platform?" And some CTO or another idiot said "I know, let's roll out a firmware update that makes it switch to samsung TV every time you turn it on" That's what happened.

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      A $25 4k TiVo dongle would get you NF on a dumbed down TV. It comes with a very nice little remote with it's own 'source' button, and dedicated NF button.

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      honey the codewitch
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      that's an option, but I really don't like the idea of crippling this relatively new TV and then installing a bag on the side. Every time I use it it would irritate me that my almost new TV is hacked together with bubblegum and shoestring. I'd probably be happier getting rid of it and getting a TV that works properly (in other words, not a samsung)

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I can't speak for their OLED stuff - I have a LG 42" TV which is about ten years old, and an IPS 22" LG monitor of similar vintage (plus two Samsungs) though. Oh, and an LG soundbar on the PC. LG certainly make reliable displays, and the picture quality is fine (though not 4K) and with only a small niggle in the HMI in that the monitor controls are a mini joystick tucked behind the monitor where it's annoying to use they have been fine for us. But then, the Samsung kit has been fine as well ... two monitors, Herself's main tablet, Herself's phone - all pretty good.

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        honey the codewitch
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        My samsung TV was fine, until Samsung rolled a firmware update and deliberately made it unfine. :mad:

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        • J Jorgen Andersson

          Have you tried a cold start (unplug the electrics for a minute)? Funny things can happen to a Samsung TV if it runs out of memory. Anyway, this seems to have happened to more people than you. Apparently the reset in the normal menu is a softish reset that does not reset all data on the TV. There's a harder reset if you enter the Service menu, but to reach that you need a special remote where you can enter number combinations, you can apparently buy one at amazon.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          honey the codewitch
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          I missed the second part of your post, sorry. Me reading this again got me agitated and so I started skimming. Not your fault, it was mine. I'll look into what you said. Certainly it would be better than buying another TV.

          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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            I missed the second part of your post, sorry. Me reading this again got me agitated and so I started skimming. Not your fault, it was mine. I'll look into what you said. Certainly it would be better than buying another TV.

            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            Method five: 5 Ways to Reset a Samsung TV - wikiHow[^]

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            • J Jorgen Andersson

              Method five: 5 Ways to Reset a Samsung TV - wikiHow[^]

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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              Thanks!

              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                Thanks!

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                But before you try that, try to just simply disable the Samsung TV plus Cannot be removed but you can disable it.

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.

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                  Phil J Pearson
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                  I have an LG 4k TV (my 3rd LG in a row). Display quality is excellent. I don't use it as my main monitor (its main purpose is as a TV) but as a monitor on a mini-PC I have in the lounge. There are no issues with that. (There is an option to turn off overscan for the relevant input, which is important, and it remembers the setting.) The TV has good built-in apps for Netflix and other stuff. It remembers the last selected source. You can create "shortcuts" on the remote (you hold down a number for 2 seconds) and use one to select a particular source. The TV's OS and apps have been udated numerous times over the years and none of them have been intrusive. There are plenty of junk channels and apps available but they're not forced on you. Incidentally, you can turn WiFi (and wired EtherNet) on and off easily.

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                  • P Phil J Pearson

                    I have an LG 4k TV (my 3rd LG in a row). Display quality is excellent. I don't use it as my main monitor (its main purpose is as a TV) but as a monitor on a mini-PC I have in the lounge. There are no issues with that. (There is an option to turn off overscan for the relevant input, which is important, and it remembers the setting.) The TV has good built-in apps for Netflix and other stuff. It remembers the last selected source. You can create "shortcuts" on the remote (you hold down a number for 2 seconds) and use one to select a particular source. The TV's OS and apps have been udated numerous times over the years and none of them have been intrusive. There are plenty of junk channels and apps available but they're not forced on you. Incidentally, you can turn WiFi (and wired EtherNet) on and off easily.

                    Phil


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                    Thank you!

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.

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                      Andreas Mertens
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                      Are you wirelessly streaming your computer to the tv/monitor? I also have a Samsung 55", with a Dell Dock wired to it. No issues with it remembering the last source. I also have my Xbox connected as a separate source, and if it is the last source it comes up when I turn the tv on.

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        Ah okay. Yeah, I don't want to run an extra computer for that. I just don't have the space for it. Edit: routing all my traffic through my dev PC is untenable for reasons.

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                        Gotcha. I have Pi-Hole in a VM running Debian 11 (full desktop and UI and bells and whistles) with 2GB of RAM, but could run on something much smaller / less demanding. At one point in the past I had it running in a VM with only 384MB allocated to it. My net connection is so slow that routing all my traffic through *anything* is highly unlikely to overload it... :-)

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                        • A Andreas Mertens

                          Are you wirelessly streaming your computer to the tv/monitor? I also have a Samsung 55", with a Dell Dock wired to it. No issues with it remembering the last source. I also have my Xbox connected as a separate source, and if it is the last source it comes up when I turn the tv on.

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          Is it a Smart TV? This only affects recent smart TVs, AFAIK

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            Is it a Smart TV? This only affects recent smart TVs, AFAIK

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                            Yes it is. It even has that silly Samsung Channel, among other such streaming apps

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.

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                              Lost User
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                              All my TV's are hooked up via HDMI. My UHD monitor runs TV via a TV app on the PC, which is a (full screen or windowed) browser app. I assume your provider has a "TV app"? (Yes ... I also find "smart" TV's can play dumb)

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                                All my TV's are hooked up via HDMI. My UHD monitor runs TV via a TV app on the PC, which is a (full screen or windowed) browser app. I assume your provider has a "TV app"? (Yes ... I also find "smart" TV's can play dumb)

                                "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                I don't have a cable provider. I use streaming only, but I like having my remote, and I want to keep it.

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                                • A Andreas Mertens

                                  Yes it is. It even has that silly Samsung Channel, among other such streaming apps

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                                  honey the codewitch
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                                  Hmm, this started doing it *right after* a firmware update on the TV. I got notified of the update, and then it restarted my TV on the samsung channel. Ever since then it has ignored my last source setting in favor of samsung TV. It is possible the firmware update itself didn't make it that way directly, but knocked something loose somewhere else. someone else posted some ways to reset my TV. I have yet to try it, because I was having a terrible day yesterday and I didn't want to make it worse. meh.

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                                    Hmm, this started doing it *right after* a firmware update on the TV. I got notified of the update, and then it restarted my TV on the samsung channel. Ever since then it has ignored my last source setting in favor of samsung TV. It is possible the firmware update itself didn't make it that way directly, but knocked something loose somewhere else. someone else posted some ways to reset my TV. I have yet to try it, because I was having a terrible day yesterday and I didn't want to make it worse. meh.

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                                    Andreas Mertens
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                                    Understood. Don't mess with my settings, right? I detest when services that think they know better screw up what I have set up...

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                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      I have a 55" 4k QLED I bought last year that I use as my primary dev machine monitor. It saves space in my living area because it doubles as a nice widget for watching netflix and such, all from the remote. It's wall mounted behind my desk so when I'm not at it, it doubles as my TV as I suggested. This is somewhat important to me, for space considerations. I need the size because I use it for dev. I am not a fan of multi monitor setups, so I use this screen like 4 1080p monitors stacked together. If it wasn't 55" I'd have to grow the font and lose screen real estate. They updated the firmware last night without my consent and destroyed my TV's functionality. Now whenever you turn it on it no longer remembers your last input source. It goes to "Samsung TV", a "free" streaming service that I guarantee you nobody actually uses, and whose primary purpose seems to be giving Baywatch pretend relevance. It turns it on complete with sound. I contacted support about it. I didn't get anywhere, other than if I go through the TVs menus, reset to factory, and refuse any terms and conditions, i can get rid of the smart TV functionality altogether. I'm almost there, but I paid extra for the smart functionality, so I'm not going to be satisfied with that. This seems a lost cause, short of rooting the TV and replacing it with custom firmware, which is risky. I'm thinking of giving it to my sister, and buying an LG, but before I do: Does anyone here have experience with LG OLED Smart TVs? I figure some of you seem to like nice stuff, so maybe you have one. They're certainly in the "nice stuff" price point. I'm not buying samsung anything, ever again. Shame our entire kitchen is samsung. Not after we move. They've lost me. What they did to my TV is nothing short of asinine, and I won't do business with someone that makes terrible decisions like that. I've never owned an LG anything, except perhaps maybe a forgettable phone once upon a time. Are their TVs any good? Should I go with someone else? I want OLED, and 55". I figure if I'm throwing good money after bad at this point, I may as well go all in. I've got a $1500 USD budget or thereabouts but it's flexible - not set in stone. That's just the topish end of my price point for what i think is "reasonable" for such a device these days. I will happily take any advice, non samsung recommendations, or experience with LG OLEDs in response with thanks because it will be really helpful.

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                                      I've been using various TVs as monitors for a number of years. The big drawback is that they think that they are TVs and often have some start page that they like to power up on. Not the HDMIn port that I only and always want to use. When I enter my workroom and power up my desk a MCU with an IR LED attached sends out commands to power on the TV, waits a bit and sends commands to set the HDMI port. The Samsung TV tends to switch itself off periodically (in spite of settings telling it not to) so the MCU sends an unused button press every half hour to keep the TV awake. At the end of my session, the power goes off and in its dying throws the MCU sends a power off command to set the TV into standby. If your TV has IR this is a possible. No damage to the TV, and independent of upgrades (maybe). Andy

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                                        I've been using various TVs as monitors for a number of years. The big drawback is that they think that they are TVs and often have some start page that they like to power up on. Not the HDMIn port that I only and always want to use. When I enter my workroom and power up my desk a MCU with an IR LED attached sends out commands to power on the TV, waits a bit and sends commands to set the HDMI port. The Samsung TV tends to switch itself off periodically (in spite of settings telling it not to) so the MCU sends an unused button press every half hour to keep the TV awake. At the end of my session, the power goes off and in its dying throws the MCU sends a power off command to set the TV into standby. If your TV has IR this is a possible. No damage to the TV, and independent of upgrades (maybe). Andy

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                                        honey the codewitch
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                                        That's an interesting widget you made and a great potential IoT project for this site. My TV doesn't go to sleep until my PC does. In fact, before the firmware update I had very little trouble with it aside from the inconvenience of navigating an on screen menu to switch sources, and the cheapo directional thing on the remote which is erratic about registering presses. I'm not sure if the samsung smart TV remotes are IR. There is no visible IR transmitter on the widget, but I can control it over wifi, badly, with my phone, except powering it on, which makes it kind of useless. I'm getting an LG probably. It has source buttons on the remote, and nobody I've talked to has had any problems with them (other than old, eventually defective units) that would prevent their use as a monitor. Plus the 120Hz OLEDs are supposed to be visually fantastic, although that's almost certainly true of many other brands as well. I found one for $1100USD on amazon in the 55" size I want/need for my mount. I'll buy locally though, even i pay a bit more due to me being averse to shipping those things more than necessary. Thanks for your input!

                                        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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