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  • raddevusR raddevus

    I'm listening to the recently released book, Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks[^]. This is a fantastic, well-written, entertaining and instructive book. It starts out with the story of the first Internet virus or worm created by Robert Morris[^] which really was a science experiment gone wrong. He was subsequently awarded tenure at MIT. Anyways, the book is written by Scott Shapiro[^] who is a professor at Yale law school. The author learned assembly language and other technology so he could write the book and it absolutely shows that he is knolwedgable. If you love this kind of technology history and how these things came into being it is definitely an entertaining read that does a great job of explaining how the technology came about also. Also, does a great job of explaining the history without glorifying those who created malware. As a matter of fact, you will discover how that originally white-hat hackers in Bulgaria were writing novel code that could attach to .COM (old DOS executable type) and how they were writing code to find them and remove them. Really interesting. Have any of you read this book? tl;dr Also, this reminds me of a book that came out when I was just entering IT and development world. It was by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,

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    Calin Negru
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    Is that title of your title thread properly formulated? I feel something is missing but I’m not a native English speaker, I might be wrong. (It could be a marginal but legit way of expressing yourself)

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    • raddevusR raddevus

      I'm listening to the recently released book, Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks[^]. This is a fantastic, well-written, entertaining and instructive book. It starts out with the story of the first Internet virus or worm created by Robert Morris[^] which really was a science experiment gone wrong. He was subsequently awarded tenure at MIT. Anyways, the book is written by Scott Shapiro[^] who is a professor at Yale law school. The author learned assembly language and other technology so he could write the book and it absolutely shows that he is knolwedgable. If you love this kind of technology history and how these things came into being it is definitely an entertaining read that does a great job of explaining how the technology came about also. Also, does a great job of explaining the history without glorifying those who created malware. As a matter of fact, you will discover how that originally white-hat hackers in Bulgaria were writing novel code that could attach to .COM (old DOS executable type) and how they were writing code to find them and remove them. Really interesting. Have any of you read this book? tl;dr Also, this reminds me of a book that came out when I was just entering IT and development world. It was by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,

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      raddevus wrote:

      by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,

      Just noting he got famous for other things after that.

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      • raddevusR raddevus

        I'm listening to the recently released book, Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks[^]. This is a fantastic, well-written, entertaining and instructive book. It starts out with the story of the first Internet virus or worm created by Robert Morris[^] which really was a science experiment gone wrong. He was subsequently awarded tenure at MIT. Anyways, the book is written by Scott Shapiro[^] who is a professor at Yale law school. The author learned assembly language and other technology so he could write the book and it absolutely shows that he is knolwedgable. If you love this kind of technology history and how these things came into being it is definitely an entertaining read that does a great job of explaining how the technology came about also. Also, does a great job of explaining the history without glorifying those who created malware. As a matter of fact, you will discover how that originally white-hat hackers in Bulgaria were writing novel code that could attach to .COM (old DOS executable type) and how they were writing code to find them and remove them. Really interesting. Have any of you read this book? tl;dr Also, this reminds me of a book that came out when I was just entering IT and development world. It was by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,

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        raddevus wrote:

        It's just a hobby of mine to read this stuff. Very interesting.

        If you like this stuff you might like The Cuckoo's Egg[^]. I found it very interesting at the time. Cliff Stoll's other book, Silicon Snake Oil[^] is also interesting if you want to see how wrong even very intelligent people can be when looking into the future. Also, for me, a good listen was the BBC podcast The Lazarus Heist[^]. It's not so ancient history but I found it entertaining over a 10 hours drive.

        Mircea

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        • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

          raddevus wrote:

          It's just a hobby of mine to read this stuff. Very interesting.

          If you like this stuff you might like The Cuckoo's Egg[^]. I found it very interesting at the time. Cliff Stoll's other book, Silicon Snake Oil[^] is also interesting if you want to see how wrong even very intelligent people can be when looking into the future. Also, for me, a good listen was the BBC podcast The Lazarus Heist[^]. It's not so ancient history but I found it entertaining over a 10 hours drive.

          Mircea

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          Mircea Neacsu wrote:

          If you like this stuff you might like The Cuckoo's Egg[^].

          Yes, I recently (a couple of years ago) read The Cuckoo's Egg. Very interesting because Cliff Stoll ends that book mentioning the Morris Worm and how he ended up being involved with it also. That's why this new book is so good, because it kind of starts off where Stoll's great book ends. I just listened to more of it during lunch and this book continues to be really great. The research is fantastic!! Thanks for the additional resources. :thumbsup:

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          • raddevusR raddevus

            I'm listening to the recently released book, Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks[^]. This is a fantastic, well-written, entertaining and instructive book. It starts out with the story of the first Internet virus or worm created by Robert Morris[^] which really was a science experiment gone wrong. He was subsequently awarded tenure at MIT. Anyways, the book is written by Scott Shapiro[^] who is a professor at Yale law school. The author learned assembly language and other technology so he could write the book and it absolutely shows that he is knolwedgable. If you love this kind of technology history and how these things came into being it is definitely an entertaining read that does a great job of explaining how the technology came about also. Also, does a great job of explaining the history without glorifying those who created malware. As a matter of fact, you will discover how that originally white-hat hackers in Bulgaria were writing novel code that could attach to .COM (old DOS executable type) and how they were writing code to find them and remove them. Really interesting. Have any of you read this book? tl;dr Also, this reminds me of a book that came out when I was just entering IT and development world. It was by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,

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            Huh, Kindle, but paperback coming out in 2024? Bizarre.

            Latest Articles:
            A Lightweight Thread Safe In-Memory Keyed Generic Cache Collection Service A Dynamic Where Implementation for Entity Framework

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            • raddevusR raddevus

              I'm listening to the recently released book, Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks[^]. This is a fantastic, well-written, entertaining and instructive book. It starts out with the story of the first Internet virus or worm created by Robert Morris[^] which really was a science experiment gone wrong. He was subsequently awarded tenure at MIT. Anyways, the book is written by Scott Shapiro[^] who is a professor at Yale law school. The author learned assembly language and other technology so he could write the book and it absolutely shows that he is knolwedgable. If you love this kind of technology history and how these things came into being it is definitely an entertaining read that does a great job of explaining how the technology came about also. Also, does a great job of explaining the history without glorifying those who created malware. As a matter of fact, you will discover how that originally white-hat hackers in Bulgaria were writing novel code that could attach to .COM (old DOS executable type) and how they were writing code to find them and remove them. Really interesting. Have any of you read this book? tl;dr Also, this reminds me of a book that came out when I was just entering IT and development world. It was by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,

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              Your link leads to a tee shirt

              In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              • raddevusR raddevus

                Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                If you like this stuff you might like The Cuckoo's Egg[^].

                Yes, I recently (a couple of years ago) read The Cuckoo's Egg. Very interesting because Cliff Stoll ends that book mentioning the Morris Worm and how he ended up being involved with it also. That's why this new book is so good, because it kind of starts off where Stoll's great book ends. I just listened to more of it during lunch and this book continues to be really great. The research is fantastic!! Thanks for the additional resources. :thumbsup:

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                I've read it too. Very good. One memorable part was his physics exam and the question "Why is the sky blue?", repeatedly followed by "Could you be more specific?" Must read it again.

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                  Huh, Kindle, but paperback coming out in 2024? Bizarre.

                  Latest Articles:
                  A Lightweight Thread Safe In-Memory Keyed Generic Cache Collection Service A Dynamic Where Implementation for Entity Framework

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                  I think it may be only hardback right now. I saw a few copies of hardback at the library. You're right though, most tech books release directly in paperback. :thumbsup:

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                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                    Your link leads to a tee shirt

                    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                    That's odd, both links work from here. Maybe because they are us links on amazon or something. Interesting.

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                    • raddevusR raddevus

                      That's odd, both links work from here. Maybe because they are us links on amazon or something. Interesting.

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                      Both links work fine for me.

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                      • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                        raddevus wrote:

                        It's just a hobby of mine to read this stuff. Very interesting.

                        If you like this stuff you might like The Cuckoo's Egg[^]. I found it very interesting at the time. Cliff Stoll's other book, Silicon Snake Oil[^] is also interesting if you want to see how wrong even very intelligent people can be when looking into the future. Also, for me, a good listen was the BBC podcast The Lazarus Heist[^]. It's not so ancient history but I found it entertaining over a 10 hours drive.

                        Mircea

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                        The cuckoo's egg is definitely a great read.

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                          raddevus wrote:

                          by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,

                          Just noting he got famous for other things after that.

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                          That was the "infamous" part, longer time after he sold McAfee (the AV company) to Intel in 1994.

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                            I'm listening to the recently released book, Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks[^]. This is a fantastic, well-written, entertaining and instructive book. It starts out with the story of the first Internet virus or worm created by Robert Morris[^] which really was a science experiment gone wrong. He was subsequently awarded tenure at MIT. Anyways, the book is written by Scott Shapiro[^] who is a professor at Yale law school. The author learned assembly language and other technology so he could write the book and it absolutely shows that he is knolwedgable. If you love this kind of technology history and how these things came into being it is definitely an entertaining read that does a great job of explaining how the technology came about also. Also, does a great job of explaining the history without glorifying those who created malware. As a matter of fact, you will discover how that originally white-hat hackers in Bulgaria were writing novel code that could attach to .COM (old DOS executable type) and how they were writing code to find them and remove them. Really interesting. Have any of you read this book? tl;dr Also, this reminds me of a book that came out when I was just entering IT and development world. It was by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,

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                            Zero Day.... is definately worth a read too. [Zero Day: Amazon.co.uk: Russinovich, Mark: 9781250007308: Books](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zero-Jeff-Aiken-MARK-RUSSINOVICH/dp/1250007305/ref=d\_pd\_sim\_sccl\_2\_1/259-5949409-6643127?pd\_rd\_w=MMXiD&content-id=amzn1.sym.ea60994f-c371-4237-9b04-358e82765627&pf\_rd\_p=ea60994f-c371-4237-9b04-358e82765627&pf\_rd\_r=2KN83G9P094233QPT9J8&pd\_rd\_wg=neuuG&pd\_rd\_r=62c4b80e-ceaf-44fb-8f64-69bfea84e828&pd\_rd\_i=1250007305&psc=1) Written by Mark Russinovich (Yes that mark, the one of sys-internals fame) it had to be one of the most scary works of fiction I as a technically minded person have read! I know a few non-techs that have read it, they enjoyed it for the fiction it is, I read it and I remember vividly thinking the processes in my head as to just how many of the plot lines in the book could come true and actually be achieved. It still has a very healthy dose of fiction & fantasy in it however, excellent read all round. PS: Sorry for the link but you know what amazon are like /me rolls eyes.

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                              Is that title of your title thread properly formulated? I feel something is missing but I’m not a native English speaker, I might be wrong. (It could be a marginal but legit way of expressing yourself)

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                              [The] title [of the book] made me think [it: the book] might be [hype: an exaggeration], but [the book is] actually fantastic! I filled in the implied words. I write emails like this all of the time and then have to go back and fill in the implied words on review.

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