So YT has declared war on adblockers.
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt -
Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I rarely watch YouTube on anything but a Google TV, so I really don't know what you're talking about.
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Seems to be spreading, many sites now require you to unblock them.
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Watch YT with Opera One (built in blocking) or use UBlock Origin plugin for Chromium/FireFox - they work around YT...
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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Watch YT with Opera One (built in blocking) or use UBlock Origin plugin for Chromium/FireFox - they work around YT...
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
I use uBlock Origin - YT are deliberately changing code several times a day to make their lives complicated (and uBlock is a volunteer thing ...) Google it and you'll see what I mean.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt -
I use uBlock Origin - YT are deliberately changing code several times a day to make their lives complicated (and uBlock is a volunteer thing ...) Google it and you'll see what I mean.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
They're also blocking Edge's "strict tracking prevention" mode. But then Google's top search result for "youtube" has apparently been returning sponsored links, including one that claims to point to youtube.com, but actually takes you to a full-screen takeover tech support scam site. :doh: Apologies for the tw@tter link, but it's the best source I could find: https://twitter.com/ericlaw/status/1712531148356661494
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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I use uBlock Origin - YT are deliberately changing code several times a day to make their lives complicated (and uBlock is a volunteer thing ...) Google it and you'll see what I mean.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Opera One works well...
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
There are some tools like Invidious e.g. the one at yewtu.be which allow watching YouTube videos without advertising and without tracking. You have to know which video you want because recommendations are not personalised :)
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I never was inside the code of an adblocker, and know little about their nature. So I ask from a lack of knowledge/understanding: Is is difficult/impossible to write an adblocker that pretends to accept ads, possibly by drawing a full blown screen image on a virtual screen not displayed to the user, but so that ad code may interrogate this virtual screen, and it behaves as if it was real? The non-ad-code is run for the real, physical screen image. This would of course require a few extra CPU cycles, and a little RAM space, but would it be possible to do it that way? The information provider would get their ad money: The ad was displayed on a virtual screen, although I didn't see it. (I most likely wouldn't have bought the advertised product/service anyway!) In the paper paper days, the papers often had ad inserts that I could snap out and throw into the paper waste basket without a glance on it. The paper got their advertising money, and noone blamed me for "stealing". I want something similar for ads in web papers. I'll accept that ads are sent to me, but I do not feel obliged to look at them before throwing them away. Just like I did in the paper age.
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I pay for YT premium... of course, I still have to deal with in video ads. That whole pay model for premium users never worked. So, people still pay and have to deal with content creators doing in-video ads. It's too much IMO.
Jeremy Falcon
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page
Youtube right? Far as I can tell I don't see any ads except for the 1/2 that sometimes appear before a video starts?
uBlock shows how many ads it blocked on the current page: YT is showing 10 today, but I've seen 53 before. I have nothing against ad supported models, but when you force that many ads on me, I'm not whitelisting you. And if you won't show me content without a greedy heap of crap being thrown at me, I'll bugger off elsewhere. It's like those GDPR banners which forces you to visit each of their vendors and deselect them individually: I'm not doing that, I'm not there any more and I'm not coming back. You get greedy and you lose visitors.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I never was inside the code of an adblocker, and know little about their nature. So I ask from a lack of knowledge/understanding: Is is difficult/impossible to write an adblocker that pretends to accept ads, possibly by drawing a full blown screen image on a virtual screen not displayed to the user, but so that ad code may interrogate this virtual screen, and it behaves as if it was real? The non-ad-code is run for the real, physical screen image. This would of course require a few extra CPU cycles, and a little RAM space, but would it be possible to do it that way? The information provider would get their ad money: The ad was displayed on a virtual screen, although I didn't see it. (I most likely wouldn't have bought the advertised product/service anyway!) In the paper paper days, the papers often had ad inserts that I could snap out and throw into the paper waste basket without a glance on it. The paper got their advertising money, and noone blamed me for "stealing". I want something similar for ads in web papers. I'll accept that ads are sent to me, but I do not feel obliged to look at them before throwing them away. Just like I did in the paper age.
That's an interesting idea, but if (say) an ad is supposed to last for 30 seconds, and you send it to the virtual window you've provided for it...I'm not sure YT would immediately start sending you the actual video (the one you're interested in) without waiting for the entire ad to play back (or at least been streamed in its entirety). So, the user is facing an empty screen while the ad is "playing" on the virtual/hidden window...?
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I use uBlock Origin - YT are deliberately changing code several times a day to make their lives complicated (and uBlock is a volunteer thing ...) Google it and you'll see what I mean.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I've been using both Chrome + UBlock Origin and Opera One heavily with YT this morning and both have not had Google complain or show ads... Touch Wood!
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I am using add blocker and can't see any changes in last days... Wonder when it will hit me too...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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On my mobile browser (any browser), refreshing the page as soon as the ad before the video starts playing makes it go away. No ad blocker necessary. Is it the same everywhere, I wonder? It may be a regional thing. Doesn't work on desktop.
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Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page, selling my view statistics, and effectively getting all their data for free (though they do pay contributors who get to certain subscriber / view counts) they have apparently decided that adblockers are a major menace to society (and profits) and I should pay them £12 per month to not see ads. Well, that's me not watching YT any more then. Sod 'em - the quality has been dropping for quite a while anyway.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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If it's worth viewing at all, it's worth viewing offline. No ads get injected, unless it's part of the original video.
YUP, spot on. That's why I make regular use of the "yt-dlp" tool. I have a play-list in my account, and as I go through the day anything I spot while working that I want to watch, just get's added to that playlist. Then at the end of the day I simply use "yt-dlp" to download the play list into my DNLA media server then at bed time, lie in bed and watch the days videos. There are the odd one or two that can't be downloaded here and there, but those are mostly music videos, and ones provided by large chains like vevo and time-warner, but since I don't really care about those, I'm happy to just skip them. For the most part it's channels like element-14, Microsoft developers, Microchip etc etc that I watch, ones that as a general rule DON'T monetize their channels, and so I don't feel bothered about them not getting ad-revenue (YT still injects ad's into the non monatized channels these days) I've recently gone through my subscriptions lists and removed all the monatized channels I subscribed too, because honestly, the channels that got stupid are all the ones who started raking in silly amounts of money while not keeping to their original agenda, so I don't feel sad not watching them anymore. I've noticed too that when they started the pop-ups for ad-blockers some weeks ago, the cross was instantly there and could be closed immediately, also if you opened the tab in the back-ground (Middle click) then swapped back to the tab you where on, the pop-up would still load etc, then you could just swap to tab, hit the cross and gone. Now they've started putting a little timer on the cross, and you have to wait 30 seconds before you can click it to close the pop-up... not only that, but if you swap tabs, the timer gets paused, and if the pop-up has not yet shown it waits until you swap back to the tab before it continues to be shown. If you hit F12/Inspect and try to close the pop-up that way while the timer is on, the pop-up comes straight back and the timer restarts... so they are obviously watching and monitoring for all the ways that folks are trying to avoid and close the pop-ups as quick as possible. What does seem to work however is a simple refresh. I've noticed that the pop-up only shows about once in every 5 videos, so as soon as you see it, just hit F5 and the video reloads without so much as a burp, and auto plays normally. If they can play games, then so can I! :-)
