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The decline of software quality: A symptom of a weaker society

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Muse Mind[^]:

    Why is software quality declining in the age of abundance and innovation?

    Things were better in the old days: a saying older than the old days

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      Muse Mind[^]:

      Why is software quality declining in the age of abundance and innovation?

      Things were better in the old days: a saying older than the old days

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      David ONeil
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      Kent Sharkey wrote:

      Why is software quality declining in the age of abundance and innovation?

      I'm surprised they didn't answer, "Because nobody gets enough sleep anymore with all their 'wokeness.'" :rolleyes:

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        Muse Mind[^]:

        Why is software quality declining in the age of abundance and innovation?

        Things were better in the old days: a saying older than the old days

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        Dave Kreskowiak
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        But it's Agile! We deploy more bugs faster!

        Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles. Dave Kreskowiak

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          But it's Agile! We deploy more bugs faster!

          Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles. Dave Kreskowiak

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          TNCaver
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          And because we use TDD and Unit Testing, too, we think there aren't any!

          There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
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          A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
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            Muse Mind[^]:

            Why is software quality declining in the age of abundance and innovation?

            Things were better in the old days: a saying older than the old days

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            Joe Woodbury
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            Muse Mind[^]:Why is software quality declining in the age of abundance and innovation?

            While there are many causes, I believe the most important is the reduction of qualified human testers.

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              Muse Mind[^]:Why is software quality declining in the age of abundance and innovation?

              While there are many causes, I believe the most important is the reduction of qualified human testers.

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              Nelek
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              Joe Woodbury wrote:

              I believe the most important is the reduction of qualified human testers.

              Some times you get to wonder if there were tests at all...

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                Muse Mind[^]:

                Why is software quality declining in the age of abundance and innovation?

                Things were better in the old days: a saying older than the old days

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                Jon McKee
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                Personally, I think it has to do with the shift from software designed by engineers to software designed by management. They decide what's "necessary" and "acceptable"; they decide the stack; they decide which engineers work on what; they decide everything now. And frankly they are not qualified to decide any of that. It gets worse. What would you guess is the natural result of a system where software engineers are treated as little more than fingers to type whatever nonsense management wants? It's the devaluing of software talent. In fact, talent poses a problem for this new system because talent sees the flaws in what management wants. This inevitably leads to the talent being let go. To management, pointing out that zero-day that has serious impacts but would require equally serious amounts of development time to fix isn't improving things - it's problematic. So now you've got systems designed by management, built by people that don't know any better, and shipped out to customers that have given up on ever receiving a quality software product. And now management thinks AI is going to bail them out. Sorry, but even AI can't turn bad ideas into good implementations. /rant

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                  Personally, I think it has to do with the shift from software designed by engineers to software designed by management. They decide what's "necessary" and "acceptable"; they decide the stack; they decide which engineers work on what; they decide everything now. And frankly they are not qualified to decide any of that. It gets worse. What would you guess is the natural result of a system where software engineers are treated as little more than fingers to type whatever nonsense management wants? It's the devaluing of software talent. In fact, talent poses a problem for this new system because talent sees the flaws in what management wants. This inevitably leads to the talent being let go. To management, pointing out that zero-day that has serious impacts but would require equally serious amounts of development time to fix isn't improving things - it's problematic. So now you've got systems designed by management, built by people that don't know any better, and shipped out to customers that have given up on ever receiving a quality software product. And now management thinks AI is going to bail them out. Sorry, but even AI can't turn bad ideas into good implementations. /rant

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                  Pity I can't vote more than once per comment... this deserves a 50

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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