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  • raddevusR raddevus

    This presenter is like a stand-up comedian for Devs who just rips on programming languages. Spoiler alert: He begins with COBOL. :rolleyes: The Worst Programming Language Ever - Mark Rendle - NDC Oslo 2021 - YouTube[^] There's some really funny stuff in there. Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

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    raddevus wrote:

    Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

    I've heard of some people who do that so frequently that they get impatient/irritated in face-to-face conversations to the point where they might snap at people, because they're sooooo slow, comparatively speaking, in making their point... I can see some validity in that claim. I wouldn't go down that road, even if only because it just sounds so unnatural.

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    • raddevusR raddevus

      This presenter is like a stand-up comedian for Devs who just rips on programming languages. Spoiler alert: He begins with COBOL. :rolleyes: The Worst Programming Language Ever - Mark Rendle - NDC Oslo 2021 - YouTube[^] There's some really funny stuff in there. Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

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      Thank you for ruining an otherwise productive day :laugh: The guy is hilarious and, yes, I listened at normal speed - wanted to enjoy the talk but that didn't increase my productivity.

      Mircea

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      • raddevusR raddevus

        This presenter is like a stand-up comedian for Devs who just rips on programming languages. Spoiler alert: He begins with COBOL. :rolleyes: The Worst Programming Language Ever - Mark Rendle - NDC Oslo 2021 - YouTube[^] There's some really funny stuff in there. Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

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        Re: COBOL. (I found the presenter "pompous"). The current crop of "best in class" languages still can't do a MOVE CORRESPONDING ("reflection" in .NET but you still have to write it). Some still can't do a REDEFINES (of storage). "RECORD" support ?

        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        • raddevusR raddevus

          This presenter is like a stand-up comedian for Devs who just rips on programming languages. Spoiler alert: He begins with COBOL. :rolleyes: The Worst Programming Language Ever - Mark Rendle - NDC Oslo 2021 - YouTube[^] There's some really funny stuff in there. Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

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          I actually enjoyed my time with Cobol, I've just finished a personal project in Cobol, it connects to a Postgresql datasource using embedded SQL(oceSQL) and generates reasonably good reports of my music collection, it was good fun to write and I'd forgotten how good Cobol is at text handling. Some people just love knocking languages. He was quite humorous though :thumbsup:

          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          • raddevusR raddevus

            This presenter is like a stand-up comedian for Devs who just rips on programming languages. Spoiler alert: He begins with COBOL. :rolleyes: The Worst Programming Language Ever - Mark Rendle - NDC Oslo 2021 - YouTube[^] There's some really funny stuff in there. Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Mark's a mate. I shall pass on that you enjoyed it.

            Advanced TypeScript Programming Projects

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              Re: COBOL. (I found the presenter "pompous"). The current crop of "best in class" languages still can't do a MOVE CORRESPONDING ("reflection" in .NET but you still have to write it). Some still can't do a REDEFINES (of storage). "RECORD" support ?

              "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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              raddevus
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              I guessed that there would be some opposition from the COBOL literate among CP. Yes, it is a bit pompous to judge any old tech since the people who created the original tech were working under constraints that the current generation of people couldn't even imagine.

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                I actually enjoyed my time with Cobol, I've just finished a personal project in Cobol, it connects to a Postgresql datasource using embedded SQL(oceSQL) and generates reasonably good reports of my music collection, it was good fun to write and I'd forgotten how good Cobol is at text handling. Some people just love knocking languages. He was quite humorous though :thumbsup:

                In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                raddevus
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                Yes, many tools used by craftsmen are often just not understood by the people who follow. I do however, like how he takes all of the "worst of all languages" and piles them together to make his BS language. It serves nicely to point out the weaknesses that programmers have had to deal with. Like dealing with NULL -- maybe in 2215 they will finally get rid of NULL and be like, "oh those idiots in the past with all their null!" :laugh:

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                  Mark's a mate. I shall pass on that you enjoyed it.

                  Advanced TypeScript Programming Projects

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                  raddevus
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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  Mark's a mate.

                  Very cool. He is really funny and I believe his British accent makes it a bit funnier for some reason (probably because I was an avid Monty Python viewer when I was younger). :laugh: Very cool way that he makes the BS language from all the broken pieces of numerous languages. I especially liked the tab/spaced comment lines. Reminds me of Python* and use of whitespace. Ridiculous!! *How many people out there have I angered now. :rolleyes:

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                  • raddevusR raddevus

                    This presenter is like a stand-up comedian for Devs who just rips on programming languages. Spoiler alert: He begins with COBOL. :rolleyes: The Worst Programming Language Ever - Mark Rendle - NDC Oslo 2021 - YouTube[^] There's some really funny stuff in there. Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

                    I mostly do the same. I also listen to podcasts at 1.8x, occasionally 2.0x, to the extent that when occasionally I start one at 1.0x it sound slowed down!

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                    • raddevusR raddevus

                      This presenter is like a stand-up comedian for Devs who just rips on programming languages. Spoiler alert: He begins with COBOL. :rolleyes: The Worst Programming Language Ever - Mark Rendle - NDC Oslo 2021 - YouTube[^] There's some really funny stuff in there. Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

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                      The presentation was excellent! And COBOL still gets my vote.

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      • raddevusR raddevus

                        This presenter is like a stand-up comedian for Devs who just rips on programming languages. Spoiler alert: He begins with COBOL. :rolleyes: The Worst Programming Language Ever - Mark Rendle - NDC Oslo 2021 - YouTube[^] There's some really funny stuff in there. Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

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                        Rage
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                        raddevus wrote:

                        Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

                        This is apparently a trend. Very representative of those times where noone has the time to listen to each other properly. Silence is also important.

                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                          raddevus wrote:

                          Crank the playback speed to 1.5X. I listen to all my videos that way.

                          This is apparently a trend. Very representative of those times where noone has the time to listen to each other properly. Silence is also important.

                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                          Rage wrote:

                          Very representative of those times where noone has the time to listen to each other properly.

                          I guess it is indicative of the times. But, for me, I don't mind slowness (and even appreciate it) when I'm interacting in real life (IRL) but when something is pre-recorded it just has a feeling of slowness. IRL interactions are almost always better.

                          Rage wrote:

                          Silence is also important.

                          I agree. And for those times, I don't speed up the youtube video playback. Instead, I turn it off. :laugh:

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