What the heck does "serverless" mean?
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honey the codewitch wrote:
app that runs entirely in a browser
Something like "thin client", isn't it?
No idea. I'm grasping over here. It's like "semantic web" - people can explain it to me, and I still don't understand it. I was hoping maybe someone here could unstupid me but apparently it will remain a mystery. Oh well, as it's not my arena anyway. :laugh:
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It seems to be all the rage in web circles. I'm picturing an app that runs entirely in a browser and connects via web based APIs to do its back end processing, but that's my wild guess. How close am I? I've never gotten a clear answer out of google.
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It seems to be all the rage in web circles. I'm picturing an app that runs entirely in a browser and connects via web based APIs to do its back end processing, but that's my wild guess. How close am I? I've never gotten a clear answer out of google.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
I understand it as not having a dedicated server.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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It seems to be all the rage in web circles. I'm picturing an app that runs entirely in a browser and connects via web based APIs to do its back end processing, but that's my wild guess. How close am I? I've never gotten a clear answer out of google.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
Just means "someone else's server" Like he said, "marketing BS"
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
app that runs entirely in a browser
Something like "thin client", isn't it?
Amarnath S wrote:
Something like "thin client", isn't it?
It would be more like thick client. Keep in mind, everything is thin client on the web when compared to desktop software. But serverless would be akin to thick client.
Jeremy Falcon
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I understand it as not having a dedicated server.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
There's always a server; otherwise, there would be no way to deliver the site to a user outside of shipping them a USB drive, etc. However, the payload delivered does all of its processing on the client once it's delivered. It doesn't have its own backend server in the traditional sense where it's making API calls to its own backend. External API calls are cool though, but the idea is all of the processing needed is done on the client and nothing else.
Jeremy Falcon
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Serverless computing - Wikipedia[^]:
Serverless computing is a cloud computing execution model in which the cloud provider allocates machine resources on demand, taking care of the servers on behalf of their customers. "Serverless" is a misnomer in the sense that servers are still used by cloud service providers to execute code for developers.
So basically, it's marketing BS. :)
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No idea. I'm grasping over here. It's like "semantic web" - people can explain it to me, and I still don't understand it. I was hoping maybe someone here could unstupid me but apparently it will remain a mystery. Oh well, as it's not my arena anyway. :laugh:
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
It's funny that you mention "what is serverless" because I started reading the book below a few days ago. Read the 1st 3 chapters and i'm still not exactly sure. :laugh: You need to read this entire book, Serverless as a Game Changer: How to Get the Most Out of the Cloud[^] then you still won't know what it is. :rolleyes:
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It seems to be all the rage in web circles. I'm picturing an app that runs entirely in a browser and connects via web based APIs to do its back end processing, but that's my wild guess. How close am I? I've never gotten a clear answer out of google.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
Here's what it actually means -- it means having someone else manage your servers where your stuff runs... From the book, Serverless as a Game Changer: How to Get the Most Out of the Cloud[^]
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Serverless Means Not Our Uptime One of the simplest definitions of Serverless, and the principal way I think about fully Serverless applications, is that the responsibility for keeping applications running is not the responsibility of the organization that developed the applications.
Yes, that's marketing -- not really technology!
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Just means "someone else's server" Like he said, "marketing BS"
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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There's always a server; otherwise, there would be no way to deliver the site to a user outside of shipping them a USB drive, etc. However, the payload delivered does all of its processing on the client once it's delivered. It doesn't have its own backend server in the traditional sense where it's making API calls to its own backend. External API calls are cool though, but the idea is all of the processing needed is done on the client and nothing else.
Jeremy Falcon
of course. But in the good old days, we had to manage our own hardware/servers (or hire an external company to host the hardware ) If we needed extra power, we just bought extra hardware/servers. I think that was the case for CodeProject at one point; they had off-siteserver racks. I can't find the page with the description of the rat cage.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Just means "someone else's server" Like he said, "marketing BS"
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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That's what I learned from "Cloud Computing for Dummies": "cloud" = There is no frigging cloud; it's someone else's computer. "serverless" = There is always a frigging server; it's a cloud server. :laugh:
Mircea
That's exactly what I tell my non-techy friends and family when they ask what "the cloud" means. I tell them to substitute the phrase "somebody else's computer" for "the cloud" and they'll know all they need to know. And "serverless" is just "somebody else's server". Not that there's anything wrong with that! :laugh:
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It seems to be all the rage in web circles. I'm picturing an app that runs entirely in a browser and connects via web based APIs to do its back end processing, but that's my wild guess. How close am I? I've never gotten a clear answer out of google.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
The "centralized versus distributed" debate is an ongoing source of techno-marketing hype. Mainframes gave way to workstations gave way to servers gave way to desktops gave way to the cloud.
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of course. But in the good old days, we had to manage our own hardware/servers (or hire an external company to host the hardware ) If we needed extra power, we just bought extra hardware/servers. I think that was the case for CodeProject at one point; they had off-siteserver racks. I can't find the page with the description of the rat cage.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
That's not the point. The point is there is still a server, but the code doesn't execute on the server. The topic was what is serverless, not how to manage a server.
Jeremy Falcon
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The "centralized versus distributed" debate is an ongoing source of techno-marketing hype. Mainframes gave way to workstations gave way to servers gave way to desktops gave way to the cloud.
Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.Real talk. There's a time and place for both concepts IMO. Anytime peeps talk about a blanket one way for all things, is usually when it's fluff.
Jeremy Falcon
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Here's what it actually means -- it means having someone else manage your servers where your stuff runs... From the book, Serverless as a Game Changer: How to Get the Most Out of the Cloud[^]
Quote:
Serverless Means Not Our Uptime One of the simplest definitions of Serverless, and the principal way I think about fully Serverless applications, is that the responsibility for keeping applications running is not the responsibility of the organization that developed the applications.
Yes, that's marketing -- not really technology!
Technically you can use lambda functions and be "serverless". But there's no server in the traditional sense at all. I didn't read the link mind you, but if they're suggesting it's just a server on the cloud executing code then that's not accurate.
Jeremy Falcon
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Serverless computing - Wikipedia[^]:
Serverless computing is a cloud computing execution model in which the cloud provider allocates machine resources on demand, taking care of the servers on behalf of their customers. "Serverless" is a misnomer in the sense that servers are still used by cloud service providers to execute code for developers.
So basically, it's marketing BS. :)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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It seems to be all the rage in web circles. I'm picturing an app that runs entirely in a browser and connects via web based APIs to do its back end processing, but that's my wild guess. How close am I? I've never gotten a clear answer out of google.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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It seems to be all the rage in web circles. I'm picturing an app that runs entirely in a browser and connects via web based APIs to do its back end processing, but that's my wild guess. How close am I? I've never gotten a clear answer out of google.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
It means: someone else's server.
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