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    Gerry Schmitz wrote:

    And I have to keep listening to that it's a "trillion dollar industry".

    A fool and his money ...

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    fgs1963
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    Tsk tsk... The same could be said about automobiles circa 1900. Or personal computers circa 1980. Or the web circa 1993. The potential of AI is undeniably profound.

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      No appreciation for sarcasm, innuendo, puns, jokes, plays on words, history. The homogenizing of civilization. Having a conversation where "AI" is the mediator is exhausting. You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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      Waht auobt wehn the lrettes are regnarrad?

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        Tsk tsk... The same could be said about automobiles circa 1900. Or personal computers circa 1980. Or the web circa 1993. The potential of AI is undeniably profound.

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        fgs1963 wrote:

        The potential of AI is undeniably profound.

        Well that does not really mean anything. Yes AI has potential, but it is far too early to say whether that will be good or bad for the world.

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          fgs1963 wrote:

          The potential of AI is undeniably profound.

          Well that does not really mean anything. Yes AI has potential, but it is far too early to say whether that will be good or bad for the world.

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          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

          it is far too early to say whether that will be good or bad for the world.

          Agreed, in fact the same can still be said of the 3 examples I provided. I just find developers whining about the current state of AI as equally ridiculous as those touting AI as the answer to everything.

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            Waht auobt wehn the lrettes are regnarrad?

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            Mike Hankey
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            That's DAI - Dyslexic AI They're working on it!

            As the aircraft designer said, "Simplicate and add lightness". PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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              Richard MacCutchan wrote:

              it is far too early to say whether that will be good or bad for the world.

              Agreed, in fact the same can still be said of the 3 examples I provided. I just find developers whining about the current state of AI as equally ridiculous as those touting AI as the answer to everything.

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              fgs1963 wrote:

              developers whining about the current state of AI

              When have I done that?

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                No appreciation for sarcasm, innuendo, puns, jokes, plays on words, history. The homogenizing of civilization. Having a conversation where "AI" is the mediator is exhausting. You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".

                "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                AI is just a bunch of nested if-statements :laugh:

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                  fgs1963 wrote:

                  developers whining about the current state of AI

                  When have I done that?

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                  fgs1963
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                  Not you - the original post. And others...

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                    Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                    it is far too early to say whether that will be good or bad for the world.

                    Agreed, in fact the same can still be said of the 3 examples I provided. I just find developers whining about the current state of AI as equally ridiculous as those touting AI as the answer to everything.

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                    Re: "whining". You seems easily "satisfied".

                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                      No appreciation for sarcasm, innuendo, puns, jokes, plays on words, history. The homogenizing of civilization. Having a conversation where "AI" is the mediator is exhausting. You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".

                      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                      Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                      You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".

                      Consider your human interactions. Is this same truth not in action in all of those too? :rolleyes: Co-workers, Managers (you must comply with their guidelines), herself (oh, you're surely complying with those guidelines :laugh: ), the bank teller, fast-food restaurant worker ("you want fries with that?")...need I mention more? :rolleyes:

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                        No appreciation for sarcasm, innuendo, puns, jokes, plays on words, history. The homogenizing of civilization. Having a conversation where "AI" is the mediator is exhausting. You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".

                        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                        It isn't intelligent, if you believe that nonsense then you fall for marketing. It does not deduce, nor produce. It repeats, based on input - and garbage in.. It can be used to make nice pictures; just don't expect any deep philosophic insights yet.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          No appreciation for sarcasm, innuendo, puns, jokes, plays on words, history. The homogenizing of civilization. Having a conversation where "AI" is the mediator is exhausting. You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".

                          "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                          Probably more appropriate to note that the AI application you were using was stupid, in your opinion. To consider that AI has great potential is easy, all my life, it has been said that I am 90% potential. :) Like all things technology related, there is the good and the bad. Like everything on the Internet, it is too easy to be anonymous. Dreams are free. Goals are expensive.

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                            No appreciation for sarcasm, innuendo, puns, jokes, plays on words, history. The homogenizing of civilization. Having a conversation where "AI" is the mediator is exhausting. You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".

                            "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                            GIGO....

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                              Tsk tsk... The same could be said about automobiles circa 1900. Or personal computers circa 1980. Or the web circa 1993. The potential of AI is undeniably profound.

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                              jschell
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                              fgs1963 wrote:

                              The potential of AI is undeniably profound.

                              True. As was recognized at least in the 1950s. However "AI" as it is currently used is a marketing term. It has no real comparison to what was intended by the phrase "Artificial Intelligence" as it was used up to the point in the early 2000s.

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                                No appreciation for sarcasm, innuendo, puns, jokes, plays on words, history. The homogenizing of civilization. Having a conversation where "AI" is the mediator is exhausting. You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".

                                "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                jschell
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                                The term "Artificial Intelligence" had a specific meaning starting in the 1950s. The term now however is used as a marketing term. The products and attempts (or dreams) of monetization is hoping to build on the claim that this is somehow moving towards that reality. I see no evidence of that. I consider the best demonstration of what real AI would look like is in the movie "I, Robot" with Will Smith. He is going to work and a robot is running down the street with a purse. Avoiding people and cars. Will Smith thinks it is nefarious but it turns out the woman that owns the robot forgot her purse (with medicine?) and the robot went to retrieve it. And as depicted in the moving that robot even then did not fit the model of being actually intelligent. So myself I will wait to get excited until I see real common place behavior like that.

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                                  fgs1963 wrote:

                                  The potential of AI is undeniably profound.

                                  True. As was recognized at least in the 1950s. However "AI" as it is currently used is a marketing term. It has no real comparison to what was intended by the phrase "Artificial Intelligence" as it was used up to the point in the early 2000s.

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                                  fgs1963
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                                  jschell wrote:

                                  However "AI" as it is currently used is a marketing term.

                                  True, at least 98.796% of the time (IMHO). But... there are some highly funded groups working on the real deal. Combine that with the "potential" of quantum computing and we may be on the cusp of a societal sea change.

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                                    GIGO....

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                                    raddevus
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                                    Salvatore Terress wrote:

                                    GIGO....

                                    This same concept holds true for all human "intelligence" too. :rolleyes: The world may just get into more & worse trouble, since AI can speed up stupidity. :laugh:

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                                      GIGO....

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                                      theoldfool
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                                      Not here. GISO (garbage in salad out) :-D

                                      >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                                        What gave you to understand that it would be otherwise? Always remember, the key word is "artificial".

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                                        Member 8002925
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                                        At last it doesn't get violent in a discussion about nearly anything as do many today, and definitely doesn't get its feeling hurt (though it seemed to when I told it it was a fancy expert system with lots of memory and storage space) HAH

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                                          Probably more appropriate to note that the AI application you were using was stupid, in your opinion. To consider that AI has great potential is easy, all my life, it has been said that I am 90% potential. :) Like all things technology related, there is the good and the bad. Like everything on the Internet, it is too easy to be anonymous. Dreams are free. Goals are expensive.

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                                          Member 8002925
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                                          Agreed!! Fro what it ism, firs tof all you have to be a good "question asker" as the AI doesn't have intuitive contextual abilities. that said, it (for the work....yes real work) I have done' with it, its pretty cool.

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