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  • FreedMallocF FreedMalloc

    There was an article in yesterday's CP daily news about the last Windows update installing some HP software even when there was no HP hardware present. MS said they were looking into it. Maybe your new phantom printer was added with that update, perhaps with some additional HP software.

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    FreedMalloc wrote:

    perhaps with some additional HP soft malware.

    FTFY

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      FreedMalloc wrote:

      perhaps with some additional HP soft malware.

      FTFY

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      "HP" and "malware" in the same sentence. Now you're just being redundant.

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        This morning I tried to print from my Windows desktop and Windows listed the printers I can target. Included in the list was an unknown HP printer! Checking the Control Panel and sure enough the list of printers included a HP device. Now here is the thing: Years ago, in the days of XP, I bought a HP scanner. When Windows 7 came out, the scanner driver was incompatible with 7 and HP refused to provide a driver for Win 7. So since that time HP products were banned from our house. There is no HP printer in our house or connected to our network! Why did Windows install a totally unknown HP printer on my machine, probably with the last update? :mad: I managed to remove the printer from my setup, but this really p**** me off.

        Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!

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        Before uninstalling, did you try printing to it? (better if you did not security-wise. “Please, send x Bitcoin to wallet y by date z”. It could also be some sort of honey pot looking for credentials…

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        • FreedMallocF FreedMalloc

          There was an article in yesterday's CP daily news about the last Windows update installing some HP software even when there was no HP hardware present. MS said they were looking into it. Maybe your new phantom printer was added with that update, perhaps with some additional HP software.

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          this. Occurrences like this make me shudder. We simply have no idea what MS pushes out under the context of "security" updates. But it's going to be fine, because the EULA says so. Then comes pulls from github, updates for linux, and I suspect no one is watching the store.

          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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          • C Cp Coder

            This morning I tried to print from my Windows desktop and Windows listed the printers I can target. Included in the list was an unknown HP printer! Checking the Control Panel and sure enough the list of printers included a HP device. Now here is the thing: Years ago, in the days of XP, I bought a HP scanner. When Windows 7 came out, the scanner driver was incompatible with 7 and HP refused to provide a driver for Win 7. So since that time HP products were banned from our house. There is no HP printer in our house or connected to our network! Why did Windows install a totally unknown HP printer on my machine, probably with the last update? :mad: I managed to remove the printer from my setup, but this really p**** me off.

            Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!

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            charlieg
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            Yeah, HP went bye bye in my house last year. I simply refuse to use hardware that has to call home to see if it's allowed to print. Both the wireless laser and the inkjet went in the trash. I now have two Brother printers and am quite happy (with the printers).

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              Yeah, HP went bye bye in my house last year. I simply refuse to use hardware that has to call home to see if it's allowed to print. Both the wireless laser and the inkjet went in the trash. I now have two Brother printers and am quite happy (with the printers).

              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              Cp Coder
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              Yes! Agreed! I have been using my Brother Laser printer for more than a decade without any issues. For color work I love my Canon inkjet. It is model MG7700 that can also print images on printable CDs and DVDs. I consider my setup absolutely ideal for a home user.

              Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!

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                this. Occurrences like this make me shudder. We simply have no idea what MS pushes out under the context of "security" updates. But it's going to be fine, because the EULA says so. Then comes pulls from github, updates for linux, and I suspect no one is watching the store.

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                jschell
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                Raspberry Pi computer. Control everything yourself. Get one for email. One for a very simple spreadsheet. Another to play tic-tac-toe. Good to go right?

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                • C Cp Coder

                  This morning I tried to print from my Windows desktop and Windows listed the printers I can target. Included in the list was an unknown HP printer! Checking the Control Panel and sure enough the list of printers included a HP device. Now here is the thing: Years ago, in the days of XP, I bought a HP scanner. When Windows 7 came out, the scanner driver was incompatible with 7 and HP refused to provide a driver for Win 7. So since that time HP products were banned from our house. There is no HP printer in our house or connected to our network! Why did Windows install a totally unknown HP printer on my machine, probably with the last update? :mad: I managed to remove the printer from my setup, but this really p**** me off.

                  Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!

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                  Kent Sharkey
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                  The Windows Update team. :sigh: :sigh: Windows Update accidentally renames all printers to HP M101-M106 on Windows 11, Windows 10[^]

                  TTFN - Kent

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                    Raspberry Pi computer. Control everything yourself. Get one for email. One for a very simple spreadsheet. Another to play tic-tac-toe. Good to go right?

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                    I think only a few of us really understand how fragile today's world is. Looking at what MS is doing over the last 5 years, I see entropy increasing there. There is simply no reason why a 3rd party vendor shows up coming from Microsoft. But you do you.

                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      The Windows Update team. :sigh: :sigh: Windows Update accidentally renames all printers to HP M101-M106 on Windows 11, Windows 10[^]

                      TTFN - Kent

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                      Cp Coder
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                      Thanks for this!:thumbsup:

                      Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!

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                      • C charlieg

                        I think only a few of us really understand how fragile today's world is. Looking at what MS is doing over the last 5 years, I see entropy increasing there. There is simply no reason why a 3rd party vendor shows up coming from Microsoft. But you do you.

                        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                        jschell
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                        charlieg wrote:

                        There is simply no reason why a 3rd party vendor shows up coming from Microsoft....But you do you.

                        Yes. Complexity. I can even hypothesize about the scenario. The developer was testing with the driver in the code space. It worked. Checked it in. Reviewers did their less than complete job (in my experience that is quite common) and so it went into the build.

                        charlieg wrote:

                        I think only a few of us really understand how fragile today's world is

                        Versus in the good ol' days? When exactly was that? What date?

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                          charlieg wrote:

                          There is simply no reason why a 3rd party vendor shows up coming from Microsoft....But you do you.

                          Yes. Complexity. I can even hypothesize about the scenario. The developer was testing with the driver in the code space. It worked. Checked it in. Reviewers did their less than complete job (in my experience that is quite common) and so it went into the build.

                          charlieg wrote:

                          I think only a few of us really understand how fragile today's world is

                          Versus in the good ol' days? When exactly was that? What date?

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                          charlieg
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                          Easy - Sun OS, Solaris, HPUX, AIX, OpenVMS. They did not push arbitrary updates under the guise of "security" - meaning oh crap, we wrote more bugs. And we want you to have the latest advertisements. So, somehow Microsoft managed to push out software for users that don't even use the hardware. I wonder what else is being pushed out under the guise of page after page of user agreements.

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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