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  • B BernardIE5317

    https://phys.org/news/2023-11-uncovers-link-musical-moral-compass.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly-nwletter[^]

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    Like music says something about personality? I'd never date someone doing classic or folk.

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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    • B BernardIE5317

      https://phys.org/news/2023-11-uncovers-link-musical-moral-compass.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly-nwletter[^]

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      Ya ... everyday I come to a Crossroads: Orinoco Flow or Stranglehold. Autobahn or Hot Rod Lincoln. Message in a Bottle, or The Letter. Grazing in the Grass, or Incense and Peppermints ...

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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      • K k5054

        Yes, but you have to play the record backwards. Same is true for the Beatles "White Album", I think.

        "A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants" Chuckles the clown

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        How do you do that today, when you access all your music from a streaming service? Even with CDs, it takes some effort. The only way I can think of is to read the music into a sound editor capable of reversing a clip. At least the simple ones do not have that capability. You could of course write your own program (this is, after all, a site for programmers :-)) to do it, but then you first have to decode the file from whatever compression format, and, unless you do the compressed-to-wav yourself so you have the file in memory, you will have to learn the details of the .wav format. It can be arranged, yes it can be arranged.

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        • D dandy72

          Heavy metal was just the first thing that came to mind. I might as well have picked reggae. :-) It's not the music. If someone decides to go on a killing spree, he's already got a screw loose, and that's what should be examined (for one, what meds was he on? Is that ever asked?) - but it's easier to blame music. And music, unlike Big Pharma, doesn't sponsor the news. Same with video games. You don't become proficient at using a weapon no matter how many hours you put in using a mouse or Xbox controller.

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          trønderen
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          dandy72 wrote:

          If someone decides to go on a killing spree, he's already got a screw loose

          I don't think we are supposed to discuss current international politics in The Lounge, so let's not pick up that one.

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            Like music says something about personality? I'd never date someone doing classic or folk.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            Long time ago ... I entered a tech. U where the Student Union had a strong radio amateur ('ham') group. Holding a ham license, I applied for membership. Like so many student groups, they have strict rules for accepting new members, far beyond just signing up. So I was called to an interview, to verify that I would fit into the group. At that time, I listened a lot to classical music, and it happened that I had already bought a concert ticket conflicting with the time for the interview. So I returned a reply, asking if the interview could be moved to a different time. I didn't hear anything more from the ham group for several weeks. In the meantime, I had heard from a friend of mine already a member of the ham group that there had been a discussion whether someone who listens to classical music would fit into the group. When they after several weeks came up with a new time for an interview, I decided: If it was considered seriously to refuse to accept my membership in the ham group because of my musical taste, then I guess that the social environment in that group would not be one where I would enjoy myself, regardless of which musical taste we are talking about. So I reported back that I was no longer interested. I guess that (e.g. based on chromosomes) being dated by you would be outside my interests anyway. Even if it was, after your remark I would turn it down anyway, for similar reasons. My classical music period was over decades ago, but now that you state that I would have been rejected anyway if I had kept my sense of classical music, You make me suspect that for you, friendships are similar: You couldn't be a close friend to someone doing classical or folk (regardless of XY). Then I say: OK, so let's not be close friends, then. A friendship requiring identical musical tastes sounds rather fragile to me. You might be joking. But even if you are joking, I can very well imagine people of that attitude (ref. that ham group). If you tell me that you are joking, I might want to introduce some of my favorite folk music to you ... :-)

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              Long time ago ... I entered a tech. U where the Student Union had a strong radio amateur ('ham') group. Holding a ham license, I applied for membership. Like so many student groups, they have strict rules for accepting new members, far beyond just signing up. So I was called to an interview, to verify that I would fit into the group. At that time, I listened a lot to classical music, and it happened that I had already bought a concert ticket conflicting with the time for the interview. So I returned a reply, asking if the interview could be moved to a different time. I didn't hear anything more from the ham group for several weeks. In the meantime, I had heard from a friend of mine already a member of the ham group that there had been a discussion whether someone who listens to classical music would fit into the group. When they after several weeks came up with a new time for an interview, I decided: If it was considered seriously to refuse to accept my membership in the ham group because of my musical taste, then I guess that the social environment in that group would not be one where I would enjoy myself, regardless of which musical taste we are talking about. So I reported back that I was no longer interested. I guess that (e.g. based on chromosomes) being dated by you would be outside my interests anyway. Even if it was, after your remark I would turn it down anyway, for similar reasons. My classical music period was over decades ago, but now that you state that I would have been rejected anyway if I had kept my sense of classical music, You make me suspect that for you, friendships are similar: You couldn't be a close friend to someone doing classical or folk (regardless of XY). Then I say: OK, so let's not be close friends, then. A friendship requiring identical musical tastes sounds rather fragile to me. You might be joking. But even if you are joking, I can very well imagine people of that attitude (ref. that ham group). If you tell me that you are joking, I might want to introduce some of my favorite folk music to you ... :-)

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              It is called sarcasm. There "might" be a difference between me and people listening to folk. And who would have forseen that is a part of the profile that ad agencies build up? I mean, those must be the most ethical agencies that exist? It is not like they would place profit over morals? :suss:

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              I guess that (e.g. based on chromosomes) being dated by you would be outside my interests anyway. Even if it was, after your remark I would turn it down anyway, for similar reasons. My classical music period was over decades ago

              Girl, that is determined by chromosomes, and whether or not we could reproduce. It had nothing to do with gender, nor music, but biology.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              • M Maximilien

                9 out of 10 dentists say you are correct. :-\

                CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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                A survey found that 88.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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                • K k5054

                  Yes, but you have to play the record backwards. Same is true for the Beatles "White Album", I think.

                  "A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants" Chuckles the clown

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                  Actually the most likely murder (or serious injury) was by the parents whose expensive record deck's precision tone arm and pickup had been damaged by some fool forcibly spinning the turntable backwards! :)

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                  • M Maximilien

                    "If you torture the data enough, it will confess to anything." (Ronald H. Coase) ([link](https://medium.com/@timothyakinyomi/if-you-torture-the-data-long-enough-it-will-confess-to-anything-492786c30169) )

                    CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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                    nehathomas
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                    nice

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                    • B BernardIE5317

                      https://phys.org/news/2023-11-uncovers-link-musical-moral-compass.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly-nwletter[^]

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                      Ha! Good luck. I already sold mine. :-D

                      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                      • A Amarnath S

                        [Obligatory reference](https://a.co/d/az6vZcq)

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                        "Statistics are used by rascals to convince fools" Author unknown (to me).

                        >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                        • D dandy72

                          Didn't read the article, but I'm guessing someone is still trying to claim heavy metal will make you want to murder your parents and such...?

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                          dandy72 wrote:

                          someone is still trying to claim heavy metal will make you want to murder your parents and such.

                          Definitely. Or whatever else they don't like.

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                          • T trønderen

                            dandy72 wrote:

                            If someone decides to go on a killing spree, he's already got a screw loose

                            I don't think we are supposed to discuss current international politics in The Lounge, so let's not pick up that one.

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                            Ted Bundy. Not current at all. His actions were not caused by porn. That was nonsense peddle by him to the evangelical riding the media wave to promote his own agenda. Bundy was hoping to escape the death penalty. And thus perhaps to escape - again. But also wasn't caused by the cheerleader catalogs. Which were in the car Bundy was driving when arrested.

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                            • T trønderen

                              How do you do that today, when you access all your music from a streaming service? Even with CDs, it takes some effort. The only way I can think of is to read the music into a sound editor capable of reversing a clip. At least the simple ones do not have that capability. You could of course write your own program (this is, after all, a site for programmers :-)) to do it, but then you first have to decode the file from whatever compression format, and, unless you do the compressed-to-wav yourself so you have the file in memory, you will have to learn the details of the .wav format. It can be arranged, yes it can be arranged.

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                              trønderen wrote:

                              How do you do that today, when you access all your music from a streaming service?

                              Good question. It must prove that digital copies are just an international conspiracy which is attempting to hide the true messages contained in the media. Makes one wonder though what podcasts played in reverse might say.

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                                I have one?

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                                don't ask me . ask Google .

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                                • T trønderen

                                  dandy72 wrote:

                                  If someone decides to go on a killing spree, he's already got a screw loose

                                  I don't think we are supposed to discuss current international politics in The Lounge, so let's not pick up that one.

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                                  I must've missed something on the news, 'cuz I thought we were talking about the claims that some music genres turn people into psychopaths.

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                                  • T trønderen

                                    How do you do that today, when you access all your music from a streaming service? Even with CDs, it takes some effort. The only way I can think of is to read the music into a sound editor capable of reversing a clip. At least the simple ones do not have that capability. You could of course write your own program (this is, after all, a site for programmers :-)) to do it, but then you first have to decode the file from whatever compression format, and, unless you do the compressed-to-wav yourself so you have the file in memory, you will have to learn the details of the .wav format. It can be arranged, yes it can be arranged.

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                                    trønderen wrote:

                                    The only way I can think of is to read the music into a sound editor capable of reversing a clip. At least the simple ones do not have that capability.

                                    *If* you have a file you can read (and not a stream), Audacity can reverse a clip.

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                                      trønderen wrote:

                                      The only way I can think of is to read the music into a sound editor capable of reversing a clip. At least the simple ones do not have that capability.

                                      *If* you have a file you can read (and not a stream), Audacity can reverse a clip.

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                                      It is a secret but I am positive you can copy any stream to a file.

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                                      • J jschell

                                        It is a secret but I am positive you can copy any stream to a file.

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                                        dandy72
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                                        Good luck finding the end of a live, continuous stream. :-p But I know what you mean. That's how, after all, streams end up on pirate sites.

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                                        • D dandy72

                                          Good luck finding the end of a live, continuous stream. :-p But I know what you mean. That's how, after all, streams end up on pirate sites.

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                                          Just noting, far as I recall, the hidden messages were never at the end. Nor the beginning.

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