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  • J jschell

    From CP newsletter. Interpol operation arrests 3,500 cybercriminals, seizes $300 million[^] "Another emerging scam tool is AI and deep fake tools to generate synthetic content that appears realistic to the targets or even the voice of a person close to them." I have gotten a couple of calls where a person claims to have been arrested and they need bail. Now there is no way I am going to fall for the gift card and meeting on a corner somewhere since I know exactly how bail works. But still if I know the voice on the other end that is going to get complicated. Since other scenarios where gift card and corner might apply (like a claimed kidnapping.) I would probably still call the police. But perhaps time to look into a 'key phrase' for the relatives. Or at least the ones that I would give money to in the first place.

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    Gary Wheeler
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    jschell wrote:

    look into a 'key phrase' for the relatives

    When my daughter was little, we had a phrase we taught her. If she wasn't with us (visiting a friend, school, etc.) she knew she had to hear that phrase before going anywhere or doing anything with anyone else. We never actually needed it, but she still remembers the phrase (she's 32 now :-D).

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      jschell wrote:

      look into a 'key phrase' for the relatives

      When my daughter was little, we had a phrase we taught her. If she wasn't with us (visiting a friend, school, etc.) she knew she had to hear that phrase before going anywhere or doing anything with anyone else. We never actually needed it, but she still remembers the phrase (she's 32 now :-D).

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      Is she married and did you teach it to the husband? Otherwise, she failed.

      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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        Is she married and did you teach it to the husband? Otherwise, she failed.

        I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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        Gary Wheeler
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        Hmm. I'm going to assume you're making a joke here, and not insulting my daughter's intelligence. She's a smart one, and will :elephant: your *cough* stuff *cough* up.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        • J jschell

          From CP newsletter. Interpol operation arrests 3,500 cybercriminals, seizes $300 million[^] "Another emerging scam tool is AI and deep fake tools to generate synthetic content that appears realistic to the targets or even the voice of a person close to them." I have gotten a couple of calls where a person claims to have been arrested and they need bail. Now there is no way I am going to fall for the gift card and meeting on a corner somewhere since I know exactly how bail works. But still if I know the voice on the other end that is going to get complicated. Since other scenarios where gift card and corner might apply (like a claimed kidnapping.) I would probably still call the police. But perhaps time to look into a 'key phrase' for the relatives. Or at least the ones that I would give money to in the first place.

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          Marc Clifton
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          I got a text message that I owed the "Well Care" walking clinic some moola with a link to pay. I called the clinic directly to confirm that it was a legitimate text message and the amounts matched. While convenient, frankly, I wouldn't even trust a bill if it came in the mail nowadays!

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          • J jschell

            From CP newsletter. Interpol operation arrests 3,500 cybercriminals, seizes $300 million[^] "Another emerging scam tool is AI and deep fake tools to generate synthetic content that appears realistic to the targets or even the voice of a person close to them." I have gotten a couple of calls where a person claims to have been arrested and they need bail. Now there is no way I am going to fall for the gift card and meeting on a corner somewhere since I know exactly how bail works. But still if I know the voice on the other end that is going to get complicated. Since other scenarios where gift card and corner might apply (like a claimed kidnapping.) I would probably still call the police. But perhaps time to look into a 'key phrase' for the relatives. Or at least the ones that I would give money to in the first place.

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            Lost User
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            One doesn't know their "relatives" that well if one needs a "key phrase". "Who was there" or "where did we", etc. seems more reasonable and more fluid.

            "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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            • M MarkTJohnson

              Is she married and did you teach it to the husband? Otherwise, she failed.

              I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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              obermd
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              Hopefully she did so she and her husband can teach it to their children.

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              • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                Someone recently tried to phish me, and they had a human at the end of an 800 number as part of the scam. Someone is paying for that number, so I reported it to the FBI. It was pretty convincing if you missed a minor detail in the originating email, the same detail that got it through the google filters, and that was that it originated from a gmail address. I don't want anyone falling victim to them, that's why I reported them. /snitch

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                charlieg
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                fbi? good luck with that circus

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                  fbi? good luck with that circus

                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  They make it pretty easy actually.

                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                  • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                    They make it pretty easy actually.

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    I'm sure they make it easy to submit stuff. What they do with it is completely up to conjecture. It's a corrupt organization.

                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      Hmm. I'm going to assume you're making a joke here, and not insulting my daughter's intelligence. She's a smart one, and will :elephant: your *cough* stuff *cough* up.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      MarkTJohnson
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                      You didn't see the Joke icon on the post? I'm a programmer, it doesn't take much skill to :elephant: my stuff up. Bad knees, nerve impingement in the left shoulder, my 3 yr old granddaughter can mess me up.

                      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                      • M MarkTJohnson

                        You didn't see the Joke icon on the post? I'm a programmer, it doesn't take much skill to :elephant: my stuff up. Bad knees, nerve impingement in the left shoulder, my 3 yr old granddaughter can mess me up.

                        I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        MarkTJohnson wrote:

                        You didn't see the Joke icon on the post?

                        Nope. Sorry if I sounded testy. It doesn't take much to make me go full-bore Papa Bear :-O.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        • J jschell

                          From CP newsletter. Interpol operation arrests 3,500 cybercriminals, seizes $300 million[^] "Another emerging scam tool is AI and deep fake tools to generate synthetic content that appears realistic to the targets or even the voice of a person close to them." I have gotten a couple of calls where a person claims to have been arrested and they need bail. Now there is no way I am going to fall for the gift card and meeting on a corner somewhere since I know exactly how bail works. But still if I know the voice on the other end that is going to get complicated. Since other scenarios where gift card and corner might apply (like a claimed kidnapping.) I would probably still call the police. But perhaps time to look into a 'key phrase' for the relatives. Or at least the ones that I would give money to in the first place.

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                          I've heard on other social media of AI voice-alike scams. But I had a learning experience last week, (the learning being not to be so stupid). Got a text from an unknown number "Hi Dad, I broke my phone, lost all my contacts; this is my new number". I assumed my son (my daughter doesn't usually do stuff like break her phone) so I texted back "OK; weren't they backed up?" Got a reply "I thought so, but seems not". At that point I actually deleted my son's old number and added the new, then wondered "Maybe it's my daughter?" so stupidly texted back "are you Adam or Beth?" (I used their real names, not Adam/Beth). Got a text back "Adam". So all seemed very normal, not suspicious. Told my wife who immediately called "Adam" on his old number, and had a perfectly normal chat, no prob with the phone at all. Stupid me. Anyway, if I ever get something like that again, I'll just call back on the number I have for them. Also had emails recently saying "We have a delivery for you today - will you be in between 1 and 2pm?" Well... that's too blatantly stupid for even me to fall for! :laugh: :laugh: Take care, folks!

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                            I'm sure they make it easy to submit stuff. What they do with it is completely up to conjecture. It's a corrupt organization.

                            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                            jschell
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                            charlieg wrote:

                            It's a corrupt organization.

                            Opinion. And a political one at that. In contrast one example of the FBI shutting done cybercrime. One of the many types of crimes that they investigate and which leads to prosecution. FBI seizes Genesis Market, a cybercrime forum used for large-scale identity theft | CNN Politics[^]

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                              I've heard on other social media of AI voice-alike scams. But I had a learning experience last week, (the learning being not to be so stupid). Got a text from an unknown number "Hi Dad, I broke my phone, lost all my contacts; this is my new number". I assumed my son (my daughter doesn't usually do stuff like break her phone) so I texted back "OK; weren't they backed up?" Got a reply "I thought so, but seems not". At that point I actually deleted my son's old number and added the new, then wondered "Maybe it's my daughter?" so stupidly texted back "are you Adam or Beth?" (I used their real names, not Adam/Beth). Got a text back "Adam". So all seemed very normal, not suspicious. Told my wife who immediately called "Adam" on his old number, and had a perfectly normal chat, no prob with the phone at all. Stupid me. Anyway, if I ever get something like that again, I'll just call back on the number I have for them. Also had emails recently saying "We have a delivery for you today - will you be in between 1 and 2pm?" Well... that's too blatantly stupid for even me to fall for! :laugh: :laugh: Take care, folks!

                              Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                              jschell
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                              DerekT-P wrote:

                              Also had emails recently saying...

                              I got a text 'from' UPS which said they had a problem with the delivery and I needed to click the link. Of course I knew that was stupid and I just deleted it. However I was in fact expecting a delivery that very day and that reminded me of that. So I checked and there was my package. If I hadn't gotten that spam I probably wouldn't have checked until the next day.

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                              • L Lost User

                                One doesn't know their "relatives" that well if one needs a "key phrase". "Who was there" or "where did we", etc. seems more reasonable and more fluid.

                                "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                jochance
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                                Other people can potentially discover 'historical' things though. They won't 'crack' the inanity of "The lazy fox jumps over the big brown hog at midnight in ballet slippers before foie gras with the fellas...."

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                                • J jschell

                                  charlieg wrote:

                                  It's a corrupt organization.

                                  Opinion. And a political one at that. In contrast one example of the FBI shutting done cybercrime. One of the many types of crimes that they investigate and which leads to prosecution. FBI seizes Genesis Market, a cybercrime forum used for large-scale identity theft | CNN Politics[^]

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                                  jochance
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                                  They've had a few times I think that they have either hacked and patched vulnerable machines or hacked the hackers and stole money back.

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