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  • A Amarnath S

    Would "code extract" be acceptable?

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    BernardIE5317
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    thank you . yes a very good term . assuming of course it was indeed extracted . kind regards

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      greetings kind regards this is a specimen of a pet peeve i wish to trouble your kind selves with for no logical reason i can think of . i have always been irritated with the use of the term "snippet" upon reference to a brief sample of code . i have finally found what i believe is a superior term for no other reason than it does not irritate me id est "specimen" . perhaps i will be successful in changing the common nomenclature as i believe i may have been some years ago id est late 70s early 80s whilst the term "excellent" entered common usage . well i am stating here and now i believe i and not Keanu Reeves may have been the responsible party . kind regards "Back to regularly scheduled program"

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      You remind me of a high school English teacher I had (circa 1981) who railed against the over-use of the word "awesome" at that time.

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      • B BernardIE5317

        greetings kind regards this is a specimen of a pet peeve i wish to trouble your kind selves with for no logical reason i can think of . i have always been irritated with the use of the term "snippet" upon reference to a brief sample of code . i have finally found what i believe is a superior term for no other reason than it does not irritate me id est "specimen" . perhaps i will be successful in changing the common nomenclature as i believe i may have been some years ago id est late 70s early 80s whilst the term "excellent" entered common usage . well i am stating here and now i believe i and not Keanu Reeves may have been the responsible party . kind regards "Back to regularly scheduled program"

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        jschell
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        BernardIE5317 wrote:

        i have finally found what i believe is a superior term

        Not that I see. From google

        Specimen: an example of something such as a product or piece of work, regarded as typical of its class or group

        snippet: a small piece or brief extract.

        The correct usage for the second would be when one presents code which cannot, by itself, successfully compile. And to my mind, as with the definition, implies that is 'small'. Consider the 'specimen' in the following Largest and heaviest animals - Wikipedia[^] "with the largest known specimen being 33.6 m (110.2 ft) long and the largest weighted specimen being 190 tonnes" That is using the word to refer to an entire animal. (Not small.) And it implies the possibility that other specimens might exist which could be larger. Following is a paper related to programming which is using 'specimen' which fits the definition above also but which presumably also provides code that can compile. (Pay wall I believe but synopsis provides information.) A specimen of parallel programming: parallel merge sort implementation: ACM Inroads: Vol 1, No 4[^]

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          You remind me of a high school English teacher I had (circa 1981) who railed against the over-use of the word "awesome" at that time.

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          I'm with him/her on awesome - the Oxford vs Cambridge boat race is oarsome :-)

          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          • J jschell

            BernardIE5317 wrote:

            i have finally found what i believe is a superior term

            Not that I see. From google

            Specimen: an example of something such as a product or piece of work, regarded as typical of its class or group

            snippet: a small piece or brief extract.

            The correct usage for the second would be when one presents code which cannot, by itself, successfully compile. And to my mind, as with the definition, implies that is 'small'. Consider the 'specimen' in the following Largest and heaviest animals - Wikipedia[^] "with the largest known specimen being 33.6 m (110.2 ft) long and the largest weighted specimen being 190 tonnes" That is using the word to refer to an entire animal. (Not small.) And it implies the possibility that other specimens might exist which could be larger. Following is a paper related to programming which is using 'specimen' which fits the definition above also but which presumably also provides code that can compile. (Pay wall I believe but synopsis provides information.) A specimen of parallel programming: parallel merge sort implementation: ACM Inroads: Vol 1, No 4[^]

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Or a specimen may simply be something (whole or in part) to be studied, examined, or tested. They have jars for that.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              Or a specimen may simply be something (whole or in part) to be studied, examined, or tested. They have jars for that.

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              DerekT P
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              Exactly. Imagine going for a job interview and being asked to provide a specimen ... (Maybe it's just a UK thing, but the above phrase almost inevitably implies of wee.)

              Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                Exactly. Imagine going for a job interview and being asked to provide a specimen ... (Maybe it's just a UK thing, but the above phrase almost inevitably implies of wee.)

                Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                At least that wouldn't be misogynist as well as weird.

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                • L Lost User

                  If all those foreigners had not been so keen to pillage our land we would have a nice pure language by now.

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  Hmm, possibly so, but which language would that be?

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                  • B BernardIE5317

                    perhaps that is why i am troubled by the use of the term as i have encountered it id est in explanatory articles of this or that C++ feature a brief code sample / specimen is presented of discussed feature w/ no indication of being from a larger text . if it were a true snippet i would prefer the term "excerpt" . so as far as i am concerned it is not a snippet a term i have never encountered prior to reading said C++ articles but rather a sample / specimen . also "snippet" sounds like a tool in a woman's sewing basket or perhaps a kind of bird . as for proper spelling i take some pleasure in e-mailing companies of spelling mistakes i find on their web sites .

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                    Mircea Neacsu
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                    I'm not sure Richard was referring to the spelling of the "snippet" or, in general with the spelling/formatting of your message(s). Do you abhor capital letters and find a sadistic pleasure in placing a space before the period? :laugh: Please, do take it with a grain/bag of salt, as a friendly ribbing at a time of joy and relaxation. Cheers,

                    Mircea

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                    • L Lost User

                      If all those foreigners had not been so keen to pillage our land we would have a nice pure language by now.

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                      StarNamer work
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                      I've a suspicion that the keenness on pillaging was the other way round during an attempt to paint the entire world map pink. :)

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                      • M Mircea Neacsu

                        I'm not sure Richard was referring to the spelling of the "snippet" or, in general with the spelling/formatting of your message(s). Do you abhor capital letters and find a sadistic pleasure in placing a space before the period? :laugh: Please, do take it with a grain/bag of salt, as a friendly ribbing at a time of joy and relaxation. Cheers,

                        Mircea

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                        BernardIE5317
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                        greetings & kind regards it did not occur to myself the Honorable Mr. MacCutchan was referring to the spelling/formatting of my message . i do not abhor capital letters nor do i find sadistic pleasure in placing a space before the period . it is simply that i find it more pleasing to the eye .

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                        • B BernardIE5317

                          greetings & kind regards it did not occur to myself the Honorable Mr. MacCutchan was referring to the spelling/formatting of my message . i do not abhor capital letters nor do i find sadistic pleasure in placing a space before the period . it is simply that i find it more pleasing to the eye .

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                          Mircea Neacsu
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                          Beauty is in the eye of the beholder 😀

                          Mircea

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                            Beauty is in the eye of the beholder 😀

                            Mircea

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                            BernardIE5317
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                            you are of course correct . it appears I or | or l or i must suffer the known sufferings of others for the sake of this minor pleasure . period .

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                              My pet peeve: individuals who use lower case letters for first person singular

                              "A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants" Chuckles the clown

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                              BernardIE5317
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                              I or | or l or i am sorry i am causing your kind self this irritation .

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                              • J jschell

                                BernardIE5317 wrote:

                                i have finally found what i believe is a superior term

                                Not that I see. From google

                                Specimen: an example of something such as a product or piece of work, regarded as typical of its class or group

                                snippet: a small piece or brief extract.

                                The correct usage for the second would be when one presents code which cannot, by itself, successfully compile. And to my mind, as with the definition, implies that is 'small'. Consider the 'specimen' in the following Largest and heaviest animals - Wikipedia[^] "with the largest known specimen being 33.6 m (110.2 ft) long and the largest weighted specimen being 190 tonnes" That is using the word to refer to an entire animal. (Not small.) And it implies the possibility that other specimens might exist which could be larger. Following is a paper related to programming which is using 'specimen' which fits the definition above also but which presumably also provides code that can compile. (Pay wall I believe but synopsis provides information.) A specimen of parallel programming: parallel merge sort implementation: ACM Inroads: Vol 1, No 4[^]

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                                BernardIE5317
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                                greetings kind regards from Miriam Webster : a : an individual, item, or part considered typical of a group, class, or whole b : a portion or quantity of material for use in testing, examination, or study 'b' suits my purpose as stated i find the term utilized upon discussion / study of brief samples / specimens of code intended to be exemplar of more general usage .

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                                • A Amarnath S

                                  Would "code extract" be acceptable?

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                                  jmaida
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                                  extract is a very good term when used as noun. but the terms snippet and sample would be understood equally as well. def: noun something extracted. a passage taken from a book, article, etc.; excerpt; quotation.

                                  "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                  • B BernardIE5317

                                    greetings & kind regards it did not occur to myself the Honorable Mr. MacCutchan was referring to the spelling/formatting of my message . i do not abhor capital letters nor do i find sadistic pleasure in placing a space before the period . it is simply that i find it more pleasing to the eye .

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                                    koshikaa Screening
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                                    Our corner room was airy and pleasing to the eye. "A piece has got to be pleasing to the eye. The Neon is a surprisingly pleasing to the eye.

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                                      Hmm, possibly so, but which language would that be?

                                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Well, certainly not what we now know as English.

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                                      • S StarNamer work

                                        I've a suspicion that the keenness on pillaging was the other way round during an attempt to paint the entire world map pink. :)

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Well most nations/cultures have been doing it from time immemorial. In relative terms the Mongol and Roman empires were as big; only lack of technology stopped them at the borders of Europe/Asia./

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                                        • B BernardIE5317

                                          greetings kind regards from Miriam Webster : a : an individual, item, or part considered typical of a group, class, or whole b : a portion or quantity of material for use in testing, examination, or study 'b' suits my purpose as stated i find the term utilized upon discussion / study of brief samples / specimens of code intended to be exemplar of more general usage .

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                                          Lost User
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                                          BernardIE5317 wrote:

                                          from Miriam Webster

                                          Well if you will use a foreign dictionary ... :laugh:

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