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    I just saw an ad on CP for Grammerly, a service that helps you with your writing by correcting spelling and grammar mistakes. But imagine what it must be capable of in this age of Generative AI. It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level. Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online! :-\

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

      I just saw an ad on CP for Grammerly, a service that helps you with your writing by correcting spelling and grammar mistakes. But imagine what it must be capable of in this age of Generative AI. It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level. Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online! :-\

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      Amarnath S
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      My New Year wish: May all of us be granted the ability to clearly distinguish between AI concoctions and NI (natural intelligence) creations.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        I just saw an ad on CP for Grammerly, a service that helps you with your writing by correcting spelling and grammar mistakes. But imagine what it must be capable of in this age of Generative AI. It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level. Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online! :-\

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        Daniel Pfeffer
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        Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

        Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online!

        Do you actually mean to say that there is anything trustworthy online today? :-\

        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          I just saw an ad on CP for Grammerly, a service that helps you with your writing by correcting spelling and grammar mistakes. But imagine what it must be capable of in this age of Generative AI. It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level. Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online! :-\

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

          It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level.

          Would that user be able to correctly recognize that the suggested structure was better versus just AI gibberish?

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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            I just saw an ad on CP for Grammerly, a service that helps you with your writing by correcting spelling and grammar mistakes. But imagine what it must be capable of in this age of Generative AI. It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level. Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online! :-\

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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            Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

            Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online!

            Written that way, you make it sound like the "trustworthiness" criteria depends upon whether something's been written by a human vs an AI. I don't have that much faith in my fellow humans...

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              Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

              Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online!

              Written that way, you make it sound like the "trustworthiness" criteria depends upon whether something's been written by a human vs an AI. I don't have that much faith in my fellow humans...

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              What I meant was that people tend to judge the trustworthiness of what they read based upon the language used. So people who write at 4th grade level can now sound like they are more credible.

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                I just saw an ad on CP for Grammerly, a service that helps you with your writing by correcting spelling and grammar mistakes. But imagine what it must be capable of in this age of Generative AI. It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level. Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online! :-\

                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                trønderen
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                Many times, I have read texts that were written as if by a 4th grader, judged by grammar, orthography and other linguistic criteria - yet, by contents, being top notch. Some excellent engineers (IT people included) spends their mental capacity on structuring problems and solutions in a technical manner, using tools for that purpose. Writing prose like a full time author is not their focus; they do it poorly. If this makes you reject the high quality contents (rather than form) of their text, I think that using a tool to improve the form, so that you will not reject the contents, is a great idea. Go back a couple of generations: Lots of text was produced by hand writing. Publishers received hand written manuscripts, I have seen several old handwritten master's thesis. Technical reports used to have figures and illustrations drawn by hand. My hand writing is terrible, my drawings even worse. If I were to present anything in hand writing/drawing, I know that a lot of people would not take seriously, but as a child's work, simply because of the terrible hand writing and drawings. When computers were becoming more widespread, in my younger days, very few of my classmates had any experience with typewriters. I had, having given up to teach myself an acceptable handwriting. On the other hand, I always read far more books than most of my classmates, so I always mastered the language quite well. Nowadays, everyone uses keyboards and PC drawing programs, hiding the fact that their writing/drawing abilities may be at the level of a 4th grader. You may think that is bad, too, because it reduces your option to reject the writing based on (graphical) form. Most people would strongly prefer to read what I write in a typed form, rather than in my handwriting, though :-) Even for the language aspects, we have had tools to improve it. When did spelling checkers first arrive? I saw them about 40 years ago. Good grammar checkers came a few years later, but they have been standard tools in text processing systems for 30 years. What are you referring to, other than a more fancy spelling and grammar checker? Are you calling for the banning of all sorts of simple spelling and grammar checkers as well, so that it can be relieved that some professional expert is not a linguistic expert, does not write like a professional author, and so that you can reject his professional expertise on those grounds? I will rather that his professional expertise is communicated in a form where I am not all th

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                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                  I just saw an ad on CP for Grammerly, a service that helps you with your writing by correcting spelling and grammar mistakes. But imagine what it must be capable of in this age of Generative AI. It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level. Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online! :-\

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                  Yes, but I want sarcasm and innuendo when I can't be direct. AI is not up for it yet in my experience; it just babbles on about guidelines. Then again, some don't appreciate sophistication; it implies a certain political bent in the speaker; and vise versa.

                  "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                    I just saw an ad on CP for Grammerly, a service that helps you with your writing by correcting spelling and grammar mistakes. But imagine what it must be capable of in this age of Generative AI. It could do things like suggest a more sophisticated sentence structure, and be able to word it correctly even if the author writes on a 4th grade level. Right now, we're probably reading articles composed by AI, or significantly enhanced by AI. Pretty soon, you won't be able to trust anything you read online! :-\

                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    Mr. The Codewitch translates documents in several languages. He uses Grammarly to check his work, but one of the languages he translates is Western Juxtlahuacan Mixtec an indigenous language from Mexico, - and it's not common except in one part of Mexico. It crashes Grammarly. :laugh:

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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