Last night's snowfall
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I hope this news report is accessible internationally: Agder nedsnødd: Klarer ikke åpne skolene[^] ("Agder snowed down: Cannot open schools"). The text is in Norwegian, but you don't need to read the article to enjoy the video clip in the first image. (If the web page is inaccessible: One guy is shoveling snow down from a roof - the snow goes significantly above his head. The third image shows the news reporter climbing through a window to get out of the house - the door cannot be opened. [They update the story now and then, and have replaced this photo with another one]) This is from Norway's southernmost county, Agder - a district where most winters bring at most a couple inches of snow to the costal towns. They were not at all prepared for this.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I hope this news report is accessible internationally: Agder nedsnødd: Klarer ikke åpne skolene[^] ("Agder snowed down: Cannot open schools"). The text is in Norwegian, but you don't need to read the article to enjoy the video clip in the first image. (If the web page is inaccessible: One guy is shoveling snow down from a roof - the snow goes significantly above his head. The third image shows the news reporter climbing through a window to get out of the house - the door cannot be opened. [They update the story now and then, and have replaced this photo with another one]) This is from Norway's southernmost county, Agder - a district where most winters bring at most a couple inches of snow to the costal towns. They were not at all prepared for this.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I hope this news report is accessible internationally: Agder nedsnødd: Klarer ikke åpne skolene[^] ("Agder snowed down: Cannot open schools"). The text is in Norwegian, but you don't need to read the article to enjoy the video clip in the first image. (If the web page is inaccessible: One guy is shoveling snow down from a roof - the snow goes significantly above his head. The third image shows the news reporter climbing through a window to get out of the house - the door cannot be opened. [They update the story now and then, and have replaced this photo with another one]) This is from Norway's southernmost county, Agder - a district where most winters bring at most a couple inches of snow to the costal towns. They were not at all prepared for this.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I hope this news report is accessible internationally: Agder nedsnødd: Klarer ikke åpne skolene[^] ("Agder snowed down: Cannot open schools"). The text is in Norwegian, but you don't need to read the article to enjoy the video clip in the first image. (If the web page is inaccessible: One guy is shoveling snow down from a roof - the snow goes significantly above his head. The third image shows the news reporter climbing through a window to get out of the house - the door cannot be opened. [They update the story now and then, and have replaced this photo with another one]) This is from Norway's southernmost county, Agder - a district where most winters bring at most a couple inches of snow to the costal towns. They were not at all prepared for this.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I hope this news report is accessible internationally: Agder nedsnødd: Klarer ikke åpne skolene[^] ("Agder snowed down: Cannot open schools"). The text is in Norwegian, but you don't need to read the article to enjoy the video clip in the first image. (If the web page is inaccessible: One guy is shoveling snow down from a roof - the snow goes significantly above his head. The third image shows the news reporter climbing through a window to get out of the house - the door cannot be opened. [They update the story now and then, and have replaced this photo with another one]) This is from Norway's southernmost county, Agder - a district where most winters bring at most a couple inches of snow to the costal towns. They were not at all prepared for this.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
trønderen wrote:
roof - the snow goes significantly above his head ... bring at most a couple inches of snow to the costal towns.
Myself I would be concerned, for all of the buildings, that the roofs might start collapsing. Perhaps the roofs are designed for these rare events. I can see from the video that the pitch on that roof is not one I would expect for such events.
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I hope this news report is accessible internationally: Agder nedsnødd: Klarer ikke åpne skolene[^] ("Agder snowed down: Cannot open schools"). The text is in Norwegian, but you don't need to read the article to enjoy the video clip in the first image. (If the web page is inaccessible: One guy is shoveling snow down from a roof - the snow goes significantly above his head. The third image shows the news reporter climbing through a window to get out of the house - the door cannot be opened. [They update the story now and then, and have replaced this photo with another one]) This is from Norway's southernmost county, Agder - a district where most winters bring at most a couple inches of snow to the costal towns. They were not at all prepared for this.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
In this part of the UK 2cm and the wheels fall off, People start driving in panic to the supermarkets, trains get stuck (crew can't, don't want to work)
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trønderen wrote:
roof - the snow goes significantly above his head ... bring at most a couple inches of snow to the costal towns.
Myself I would be concerned, for all of the buildings, that the roofs might start collapsing. Perhaps the roofs are designed for these rare events. I can see from the video that the pitch on that roof is not one I would expect for such events.
Collapsing roofs are certainly a known phenomenon, but mostly with high mountain cabins where the entire building may be covered by a few meters of snow, with noone present to do the shoveling.(*) Not in coast towns with the Gulf stream passing by :-) And, the roofs collapsing are probably old ones. In my childhood (1960s), building standards required that roofs could, as a minimum handle at least 200 kg of snow per square meter. Today, the requirement is 300 kg/sqm. If you have a moderate size house of 100 sqm, there may be 30 tons of snow on you roof without risking anything. That is the amount of snow you get from 300 mm of precipitation (with none of it melting or blowing away). Newly fallen snow, still dry, may have a weight of 50 kg/cubic meter, so 300 mm of precipitation might give you 6 meters of dry snow (until it is compressed). I guess that Norwegian building standards are rather extreme in this respect. (*) A friend of mine has a high mountain cabin, where they get their drinking water from a well. One particularly snowy winter some years ago, they couldn't possibly dig a vertical shaft down to the well - they dug a sloping tunnel and a snow cave over the well. That winter, one of their cabin neighbors didn't see a trace of his cabin on the snow mesa, so he tried to do a quick triangulation from the surrounding mountains before starting to dig down. They did hit a roof, and happily dug on, down to the main entrance door ... to discover that this was the cabin next to theirs.:-) In the high mountains, you must be prepared for such disappointments. And you should build your cabin with a significantly stronger roof than the minimum requirements.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Collapsing roofs are certainly a known phenomenon, but mostly with high mountain cabins where the entire building may be covered by a few meters of snow, with noone present to do the shoveling.(*) Not in coast towns with the Gulf stream passing by :-) And, the roofs collapsing are probably old ones. In my childhood (1960s), building standards required that roofs could, as a minimum handle at least 200 kg of snow per square meter. Today, the requirement is 300 kg/sqm. If you have a moderate size house of 100 sqm, there may be 30 tons of snow on you roof without risking anything. That is the amount of snow you get from 300 mm of precipitation (with none of it melting or blowing away). Newly fallen snow, still dry, may have a weight of 50 kg/cubic meter, so 300 mm of precipitation might give you 6 meters of dry snow (until it is compressed). I guess that Norwegian building standards are rather extreme in this respect. (*) A friend of mine has a high mountain cabin, where they get their drinking water from a well. One particularly snowy winter some years ago, they couldn't possibly dig a vertical shaft down to the well - they dug a sloping tunnel and a snow cave over the well. That winter, one of their cabin neighbors didn't see a trace of his cabin on the snow mesa, so he tried to do a quick triangulation from the surrounding mountains before starting to dig down. They did hit a roof, and happily dug on, down to the main entrance door ... to discover that this was the cabin next to theirs.:-) In the high mountains, you must be prepared for such disappointments. And you should build your cabin with a significantly stronger roof than the minimum requirements.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
looked like 1 meter depth of snow in your clip. yeah, roof strengths vary considerably from say northern MN to southern states. I do not recall the specs but when last up in MN, roofing failures were a topic in local news. perhaps an indication standards were not strictly applied. The family home built in early 1900's was overly sturdy to be on the safe side.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger
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looked like 1 meter depth of snow in your clip. yeah, roof strengths vary considerably from say northern MN to southern states. I do not recall the specs but when last up in MN, roofing failures were a topic in local news. perhaps an indication standards were not strictly applied. The family home built in early 1900's was overly sturdy to be on the safe side.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger
I think you are right for the second half of the clip, with several guys with are working with plain shovels. The guy in the start of the clip is working where the snow is more like 2m deep, and that is probably due to turbulence from the surrounding roofs that have made the snow land there; it is not the average snow depth. Nevertheless, the 2m of snow on that roof has to be removed!
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I think you are right for the second half of the clip, with several guys with are working with plain shovels. The guy in the start of the clip is working where the snow is more like 2m deep, and that is probably due to turbulence from the surrounding roofs that have made the snow land there; it is not the average snow depth. Nevertheless, the 2m of snow on that roof has to be removed!
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Collapsing roofs are certainly a known phenomenon, but mostly with high mountain cabins where the entire building may be covered by a few meters of snow, with noone present to do the shoveling.(*) Not in coast towns with the Gulf stream passing by :-) And, the roofs collapsing are probably old ones. In my childhood (1960s), building standards required that roofs could, as a minimum handle at least 200 kg of snow per square meter. Today, the requirement is 300 kg/sqm. If you have a moderate size house of 100 sqm, there may be 30 tons of snow on you roof without risking anything. That is the amount of snow you get from 300 mm of precipitation (with none of it melting or blowing away). Newly fallen snow, still dry, may have a weight of 50 kg/cubic meter, so 300 mm of precipitation might give you 6 meters of dry snow (until it is compressed). I guess that Norwegian building standards are rather extreme in this respect. (*) A friend of mine has a high mountain cabin, where they get their drinking water from a well. One particularly snowy winter some years ago, they couldn't possibly dig a vertical shaft down to the well - they dug a sloping tunnel and a snow cave over the well. That winter, one of their cabin neighbors didn't see a trace of his cabin on the snow mesa, so he tried to do a quick triangulation from the surrounding mountains before starting to dig down. They did hit a roof, and happily dug on, down to the main entrance door ... to discover that this was the cabin next to theirs.:-) In the high mountains, you must be prepared for such disappointments. And you should build your cabin with a significantly stronger roof than the minimum requirements.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
trønderen wrote:
didn't see a trace of his cabin on the snow mesa, so he tried to do a quick triangulation from the surrounding mountains before starting to dig down. They did hit a roof, and happily dug on, down to the main entrance door ... to discover that this was the cabin next to theirs
I would be curious as to why they even tried digging??? Must be real need to 'get away for the weekend to the cabin' to do that? Maybe a new use for an Apple Air Tag?
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Collapsing roofs are certainly a known phenomenon, but mostly with high mountain cabins where the entire building may be covered by a few meters of snow, with noone present to do the shoveling.(*) Not in coast towns with the Gulf stream passing by :-) And, the roofs collapsing are probably old ones. In my childhood (1960s), building standards required that roofs could, as a minimum handle at least 200 kg of snow per square meter. Today, the requirement is 300 kg/sqm. If you have a moderate size house of 100 sqm, there may be 30 tons of snow on you roof without risking anything. That is the amount of snow you get from 300 mm of precipitation (with none of it melting or blowing away). Newly fallen snow, still dry, may have a weight of 50 kg/cubic meter, so 300 mm of precipitation might give you 6 meters of dry snow (until it is compressed). I guess that Norwegian building standards are rather extreme in this respect. (*) A friend of mine has a high mountain cabin, where they get their drinking water from a well. One particularly snowy winter some years ago, they couldn't possibly dig a vertical shaft down to the well - they dug a sloping tunnel and a snow cave over the well. That winter, one of their cabin neighbors didn't see a trace of his cabin on the snow mesa, so he tried to do a quick triangulation from the surrounding mountains before starting to dig down. They did hit a roof, and happily dug on, down to the main entrance door ... to discover that this was the cabin next to theirs.:-) In the high mountains, you must be prepared for such disappointments. And you should build your cabin with a significantly stronger roof than the minimum requirements.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.