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Are we back in the 60s?

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  • M MarkTJohnson

    Yeah, but just think if they did still teach that. How to think and approach a problem is more useful than "use this or that framework". I used to have a template for drawing the things.

    I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    I agree. I'm glad that when I took my first programming class (BASIC in 1983) we had to submit flow charts.

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    • M MarkTJohnson

      Yeah, but just think if they did still teach that. How to think and approach a problem is more useful than "use this or that framework". I used to have a template for drawing the things.

      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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      Andy Allinger
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      From the point of view of an amateur, flow charts are a good thing. They emphasize the logic of how to solve the problem. OOPS emphasizes the bureaucratic details of instantiating objects, constructor functions, templates and dependencies. 60's music was better, too.

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        From the point of view of an amateur, flow charts are a good thing. They emphasize the logic of how to solve the problem. OOPS emphasizes the bureaucratic details of instantiating objects, constructor functions, templates and dependencies. 60's music was better, too.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Andy Allinger wrote:

        60's music was better

        Continues to be better. Anything up to about 1990.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          I just saw on one of my state's official websites: Computer Programmers -- Convert project specifications and statements of problems and procedures to detailed logical flow charts for coding into computer language. (Emphasis mine.) Glad I'm a Software Developer rather than one of those.

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          Mike Hankey
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          Go with the flow man. :)

          As the aircraft designer said, "Simplicate and add lightness". PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            Go with the flow man. :)

            As the aircraft designer said, "Simplicate and add lightness". PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Don't ( START ) with me.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              I just saw on one of my state's official websites: Computer Programmers -- Convert project specifications and statements of problems and procedures to detailed logical flow charts for coding into computer language. (Emphasis mine.) Glad I'm a Software Developer rather than one of those.

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              Brisingr Aerowing
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              I make flow charts for the code I write for the OpenComputers Minecraft mod. Makes it easier to implement. I also make flow charts for all the various processing stuff I have to set up to figure out what I need and how to lay it out.

              What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                I just saw on one of my state's official websites: Computer Programmers -- Convert project specifications and statements of problems and procedures to detailed logical flow charts for coding into computer language. (Emphasis mine.) Glad I'm a Software Developer rather than one of those.

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                charlieg
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                I smell money :)

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Andy Allinger wrote:

                  60's music was better

                  Continues to be better. Anything up to about 1990.

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                  David ONeil
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                  Good music continues to be made. You might have to look for it. Look through KEXP's playlists - you will likely find something you like: [https://www.youtube.com/@kexp\](https://www.youtube.com/@kexp)

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    I just saw on one of my state's official websites: Computer Programmers -- Convert project specifications and statements of problems and procedures to detailed logical flow charts for coding into computer language. (Emphasis mine.) Glad I'm a Software Developer rather than one of those.

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                    RickZeeland
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                    Amusing, but as others already mentioned it can useful for learning purposes. This looks interesting: Flowgorithm is a free beginner's programming language that is based on simple graphical flowcharts. Flowgorithm - Flowchart Programming Language[^]

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      I just saw on one of my state's official websites: Computer Programmers -- Convert project specifications and statements of problems and procedures to detailed logical flow charts for coding into computer language. (Emphasis mine.) Glad I'm a Software Developer rather than one of those.

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                      jschell
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                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      state's official websites:

                      Did you consider that they might be using COBOL. And not Object COBOL but actual COBOL. Quite a few years ago I had to extensively modify an older C application and realized I could no longer even think in structured programming. I had to use a model that allowed me to simulate OO via C. A junior programmer thought that was cool and I didn't explain it was just a hack so I could implement it.

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