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  • C Chris Maunder

    I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Richard Andrew x64
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    I wouldn't call it obsessed. I would call it addicted. If you find that you're doing this to the exclusion of other activities you used to enjoy, then I would be concerned.

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      GKP1992
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      and my own short attention span (squirrel!)

      I suffer from this issue. Getting any significant work done usually takes me about twice as long, due to which I usually burn the midnight oil just to stay competitive with my peers. I wonder how have you handled yourself and if you can share some insight. Thanks.

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      • C Chris Maunder

        I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        BernardIE5317
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        Not quite as much. Also you are fortunate. I have on occasion raised my arms in exaltation upon some final success.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          Bruno van Dooren
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          I was. But I detoxed. I still love coding. But it no longer usurps my life.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            ChandraRam
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            On this site... is this a trick question? :)

            Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              destynova
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              Yep! I've been out of a job for over a year, but still love coding. Woke up early and knew I wouldn't get back to sleep, so I came down before 5am and started looking at some SAT-solving code. Took a little diversion to test something out in the K language (a somewhat obscure descendant of APL). It's good to unplug periodically, but... this stuff is fun!

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              • C CPallini

                Refactoring could be obsessive for me, kind of: "it works, but I really have to fix it".

                "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                Alister Morton
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                BTDTGTTS!

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  jan larsen
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                  Yeah, it happens now and then. But last time, it went a little wild, and I had to have the doctor tell me that what I experienced was stress symptoms. I was so focused, that I wasn't able to realize why i couldn't sleep, and why my heart was beating so bloody loud. Since then, I try to keep my coding within business hours.

                  "God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    I started at 5 this morning. I'll log off in a couple of hours (it's currently 4PM in the UK). So yes, I get the obsession.

                    Advanced TypeScript Programming Projects

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                    Peter Shaw
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                    I think it goes with the territory. I have to admit these days I do get bored with the run of the mill stuff, but it's generally the run of the mill stuff that pays my bills. Something new and exciting comes along however, good luck in getting me out of my seat!!!!

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      agolddog
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                      I'd get that way when I was still working. I think it's a good sign--it means you really care about your software and craft--as long as it doesn't become an obsession.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Steve Naidamast
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                        When I have an issue with my development projects I will just keep at it until it is resolved. Even at 73 years of age I will keep going for a straight 8 hours trying to resolve something. Then, of course, I will sleep quite well in the evenings. Nonetheless, I code all day on my current endeavors...

                        Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Owen Lawrence
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                          I was up 'till 3am the other night debugging an ESP32 OTA update issue. I just couldn't leave it knowing I still had something in mind that could potentially fix the problem. Thankfully I did fix it but still had enough sense left to avoid deploying it to the remote devices until I had some sleep. So yeah, it's normal. Perhaps a bit uncharitable, but I thought Python's whitespace treatment was supposed to save you from ever having ugly code. - Owen -

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Mycroft Holmes
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                            Not any more - retired - and I don't miss it even a little.

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                            • S Steve Naidamast

                              When I have an issue with my development projects I will just keep at it until it is resolved. Even at 73 years of age I will keep going for a straight 8 hours trying to resolve something. Then, of course, I will sleep quite well in the evenings. Nonetheless, I code all day on my current endeavors...

                              Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                              jschell
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                              Steve Naidamast wrote:

                              for a straight 8 hours trying to resolve something.

                              I can remember going for about 24 hours one time. And that wasn't even something that I liked doing even then.

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                                Steve Naidamast wrote:

                                for a straight 8 hours trying to resolve something.

                                I can remember going for about 24 hours one time. And that wasn't even something that I liked doing even then.

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                                Steve Naidamast
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                                I got you beat... :) 48 hours straight to get a spreadsheet interface completed on deadline...

                                Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  jochance
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                                  It's weird how much we talk about SoC and breaking this stuff into independent microservices. Meanwhile, you literally cannot get a foundational codebase going without venturing into 23 different 'disciplines' and sorting every detail from top to bottom of the 'sample starter project'. (I'm not talking about CP.AI; I haven't played with it yet). The little I've ventured into PyTorch and NVIDIA CUDA stuff owing to the huggingface stuff... yeah I'll keep rolling my microsoftian ball up mountains for now. There's too much world in all the mostly-python-dominated ML stuff for me to feel like I can take a substantial bite. I'm already eating bakeries out of other cakes and getting Google's "go fish" graphic. Praise for the work, but I do not envy it. :)

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    Yes. Everytime I use a broken website. It makes me scream

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Gary R Wheeler
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                                    This explains much. I live in Ohio in the U.S. and I've wondered what that sound was.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      I've been burning the candle at both ends fighting PyTorch, everything NVIDIA, Python, and my own short attention span (squirrel!). In updating the dashboard for CodeProject.AI I've been refactoring a bunch of truly ugly code and as these things go, you pull on a thread and you just...keep...pulling. After two consecutive nights of dreaming about the code I realised I probably should unplug for a day. Right after I fix just one more thing... So am I a little odd or does this happen to you guys occasionally? Or am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      Gary R Wheeler
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                                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                                      am I just lucky to be working on something that grabs me like this?

                                      You're lucky. Due to workforce reductions the last few years and the long development time for our products, I'm currently spending most of my time maintaining legacy stuff, little of which I wrote. This is frustrating, tedious, and boring. In one case in particular I have a profound need to find the original developer's grave and desecrate it after downing a pot of coffee. The last time I got to develop something new was back in November, and then the challenge was to implement a desired 'feature' in such a way that the customer's piss-off was minimized. I just :love: making my app do corporate CYA.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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