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  • D dandy72

    Filtering on some properties, I mean. I'm looking at hard drives, and I can set filters for drives of various capacities, but it tops off at "8TB and up". Thing is, they have 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20TB drives now (and probably larger ones too), so even when selecting the highest capacity option, there's still a lot of stuff I'm not interested in coming back for me to wade through. Same with NVMe drives; it tops off at 1TB, but there also are 2, 4 and 8TB drives. I realize drives of certain sizes might not have existed when they wrote the code behind this...but how long should it take Amazon to update their filters to add those capacities? Think the same problem exists when it comes to pant sizes?

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    Amazon search drives me crazy. When you try to search for something very specific, you get a pages of crap that is not relevant. For instance, I remodeled the master bat and built a walk in shower and tiled the walls with a decorative tile that was uneven. So I searched for a shelving unit that could be installed with screws. Instead I get pages and pagers of units that use suction cups that will only work on smooth surfaces and then not very well. But if you don't use their search engine you get better results.

    "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      Amazon search drives me crazy. When you try to search for something very specific, you get a pages of crap that is not relevant. For instance, I remodeled the master bat and built a walk in shower and tiled the walls with a decorative tile that was uneven. So I searched for a shelving unit that could be installed with screws. Instead I get pages and pagers of units that use suction cups that will only work on smooth surfaces and then not very well. But if you don't use their search engine you get better results.

      "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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      Whenever Amazon's own search fails me, Bing's or Google's rarely does - searching Amazon's own site ("site:amazon.com [same keywords]")

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      • D dandy72

        Filtering on some properties, I mean. I'm looking at hard drives, and I can set filters for drives of various capacities, but it tops off at "8TB and up". Thing is, they have 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20TB drives now (and probably larger ones too), so even when selecting the highest capacity option, there's still a lot of stuff I'm not interested in coming back for me to wade through. Same with NVMe drives; it tops off at 1TB, but there also are 2, 4 and 8TB drives. I realize drives of certain sizes might not have existed when they wrote the code behind this...but how long should it take Amazon to update their filters to add those capacities? Think the same problem exists when it comes to pant sizes?

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        Amarnath S
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        Sponsored links seem to take prime spots on Amazon. (No, I still don't have Amazon Prime subscription).

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        • D dandy72

          Whenever Amazon's own search fails me, Bing's or Google's rarely does - searching Amazon's own site ("site:amazon.com [same keywords]")

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          charlieg
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          bing's search is so anally insane as to be an embarrassment. Google is not far behind. Amazon is just elephanting stupid. I *think* the problem is that both track your history and cookies. I don't have time to test this, but when I get a chance, I'll google or amazon search things from a clean VM. Hell, they might even be tracking my IP so that might not work.

          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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            Sponsored links seem to take prime spots on Amazon. (No, I still don't have Amazon Prime subscription).

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            Amarnath S wrote:

            No, I still don't have Amazon Prime subscription

            Ditto and at the subscription price I never will!

            "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              Amazon search drives me crazy. When you try to search for something very specific, you get a pages of crap that is not relevant. For instance, I remodeled the master bat and built a walk in shower and tiled the walls with a decorative tile that was uneven. So I searched for a shelving unit that could be installed with screws. Instead I get pages and pagers of units that use suction cups that will only work on smooth surfaces and then not very well. But if you don't use their search engine you get better results.

              "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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              But Bezos knows best!

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                But Bezos knows best!

                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                Mike Hankey
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                He's rich enough, he doesn't need my Tithe.

                "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                  Amarnath S wrote:

                  No, I still don't have Amazon Prime subscription

                  Ditto and at the subscription price I never will!

                  "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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                  In the UK it's a very good deal £7.99 a month for free delivery and video/music ( I watch a lot of tennis )

                  In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                    In the UK it's a very good deal £7.99 a month for free delivery and video/music ( I watch a lot of tennis )

                    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                    Here in the colonies it is $14.99/mo., we don't download music and most of the shipping on stuff we buy is free after $35. So there is no point in us getting it at that price.

                    "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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                    • D dandy72

                      Filtering on some properties, I mean. I'm looking at hard drives, and I can set filters for drives of various capacities, but it tops off at "8TB and up". Thing is, they have 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20TB drives now (and probably larger ones too), so even when selecting the highest capacity option, there's still a lot of stuff I'm not interested in coming back for me to wade through. Same with NVMe drives; it tops off at 1TB, but there also are 2, 4 and 8TB drives. I realize drives of certain sizes might not have existed when they wrote the code behind this...but how long should it take Amazon to update their filters to add those capacities? Think the same problem exists when it comes to pant sizes?

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                      The filters only sort of work anyway. Promoted products often get around the filters and some marketplace options are often ambiguous enough (deliberately or otherwise) to get around them.

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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                        Here in the colonies it is $14.99/mo., we don't download music and most of the shipping on stuff we buy is free after $35. So there is no point in us getting it at that price.

                        "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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                        MikeCO10
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                        In this colony, the wife has several things she likes to watch on Prime Video and read lots of Kindle books, including Thursday night football. :laugh: And free next day shipping can take the place of me having to run to the store for some things.

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                          In this colony, the wife has several things she likes to watch on Prime Video and read lots of Kindle books, including Thursday night football. :laugh: And free next day shipping can take the place of me having to run to the store for some things.

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                          If it works for y'all then it's worth it.

                          "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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                          • D dandy72

                            Filtering on some properties, I mean. I'm looking at hard drives, and I can set filters for drives of various capacities, but it tops off at "8TB and up". Thing is, they have 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20TB drives now (and probably larger ones too), so even when selecting the highest capacity option, there's still a lot of stuff I'm not interested in coming back for me to wade through. Same with NVMe drives; it tops off at 1TB, but there also are 2, 4 and 8TB drives. I realize drives of certain sizes might not have existed when they wrote the code behind this...but how long should it take Amazon to update their filters to add those capacities? Think the same problem exists when it comes to pant sizes?

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                            Just a symptom of doing/selling everything. Very hard to list all the specifications for all the things as filters. If they made some kind of internal UI to do it, they'd still have the problem of needing a bunch of different people to do entry and all of those may not really understand what they are doing (maybe predictable AMZN isn't going to pay top dollar for "data entry"), and others may not even be acting in good faith. Also, I think there is the issue that sellers/vendors get some degree of control over their own listings? Even dealing with the much smaller subset of "this stuff" (newegg) - it's a hard problem to solve.

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                            • D dandy72

                              Filtering on some properties, I mean. I'm looking at hard drives, and I can set filters for drives of various capacities, but it tops off at "8TB and up". Thing is, they have 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20TB drives now (and probably larger ones too), so even when selecting the highest capacity option, there's still a lot of stuff I'm not interested in coming back for me to wade through. Same with NVMe drives; it tops off at 1TB, but there also are 2, 4 and 8TB drives. I realize drives of certain sizes might not have existed when they wrote the code behind this...but how long should it take Amazon to update their filters to add those capacities? Think the same problem exists when it comes to pant sizes?

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                              jschell
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                              dandy72 wrote:

                              Think the same problem exists when it comes to pant sizes?

                              I might be pushing the 4TB pant size. But I am certainly not at the 20TB size yet. So I am good.

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                              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                Here in the colonies it is $14.99/mo., we don't download music and most of the shipping on stuff we buy is free after $35. So there is no point in us getting it at that price.

                                "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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                                jschell
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                                I use Prime for the Video. Otherwise I would cancel it.

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                                  Just a symptom of doing/selling everything. Very hard to list all the specifications for all the things as filters. If they made some kind of internal UI to do it, they'd still have the problem of needing a bunch of different people to do entry and all of those may not really understand what they are doing (maybe predictable AMZN isn't going to pay top dollar for "data entry"), and others may not even be acting in good faith. Also, I think there is the issue that sellers/vendors get some degree of control over their own listings? Even dealing with the much smaller subset of "this stuff" (newegg) - it's a hard problem to solve.

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                                  jschell
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                                  jochance wrote:

                                  Very hard to list all the specifications for all the things as filters.

                                  Yep. Myself I could not care less what color the USB block is. But I have no doubt some people care about that quite a bit.

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                                    jochance wrote:

                                    Very hard to list all the specifications for all the things as filters.

                                    Yep. Myself I could not care less what color the USB block is. But I have no doubt some people care about that quite a bit.

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                                    jschell wrote:

                                    Myself I could not care less what color the USB block is.

                                    That's part of what annoys me. You get filters that are completely useless, but the truly useful ones get neglected.

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                                    • D dandy72

                                      Filtering on some properties, I mean. I'm looking at hard drives, and I can set filters for drives of various capacities, but it tops off at "8TB and up". Thing is, they have 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20TB drives now (and probably larger ones too), so even when selecting the highest capacity option, there's still a lot of stuff I'm not interested in coming back for me to wade through. Same with NVMe drives; it tops off at 1TB, but there also are 2, 4 and 8TB drives. I realize drives of certain sizes might not have existed when they wrote the code behind this...but how long should it take Amazon to update their filters to add those capacities? Think the same problem exists when it comes to pant sizes?

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                                      Ralf Quint
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                                      Well, that something exists doesn't necessarily mean that someone is able to offer it for sale...

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                                        Well, that something exists doesn't necessarily mean that someone is able to offer it for sale...

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                                        dandy72
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                                        Ralf Quint wrote:

                                        that something exists doesn't necessarily mean that someone is able to offer it for sale

                                        Maybe if the individual merchants were in charge of the filters I'd agree. But Amazon does have the drives in the capacities I mentioned. They're for sale, they're in stock and they have plenty. They just get lost in the search results because their filters suck.

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