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Ahh ... plagiarists and cheats don't always get what they want.

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Yeah but back in those days I could guarantee lasting three hours between pees. :sigh:

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    dandy72
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    These are highschool and college kids we're talking about. Not us old timers who have bladder control issues...

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    • G glennPattonWork3

      For 3 hour plus exams we were allowed two drinks (sealed containers) and snacks (sealed containers) also there was mascots allowed on the desk (one student in Control Systems Engineering desk was buried by small bears(!))

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      dandy72
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      glennPattonWork3 wrote:

      mascots allowed on the desk

      I suppose that's how things start. Why? Emotional support? Watch people bringing in their pets now. Scratch that. I'm certain it's already been done. I don't look to google it.

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        glennPattonWork3 wrote:

        mascots allowed on the desk

        I suppose that's how things start. Why? Emotional support? Watch people bringing in their pets now. Scratch that. I'm certain it's already been done. I don't look to google it.

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        In the old days they would have been called talismans. New language for old concepts.

        I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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        • G glennPattonWork3

          For 3 hour plus exams we were allowed two drinks (sealed containers) and snacks (sealed containers) also there was mascots allowed on the desk (one student in Control Systems Engineering desk was buried by small bears(!))

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          StarNamer work
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          In my day, I think you were allowed to use your own pen and, for appropriate exams, your own slide rule!

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          • D dandy72

            Wait, people were allowed to go to the bathroom during the exam and used their phone from there? Never mind the phone, back in my day, you weren't allowed to leave a 3-hour exam to go to the bathroom.

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            Sander Rossel
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            I was about to say the same thing. We we're allowed a bathroom break, but only one person at a time and no phones :~ It seems this cheating could've been fixed a lot more easy...

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              Wait, people were allowed to go to the bathroom during the exam and used their phone from there? Never mind the phone, back in my day, you weren't allowed to leave a 3-hour exam to go to the bathroom.

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              den2k88
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              In the days before mine there were exams lasting 8 hours, they had measures in check to allow for the lunch break (2 hours, we ARE italians) and two bathroom breaks. Architecture still had them.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                But they do get what they need sometimes: Teacher's cunning question catches out 14 students cheating in final exam[^] :-D

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                GuyThiebaut
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                Reminds me of a big company I joined in my third year at university as part of my sandwhich degree. There was a whole assessment day as part of the application process and one of the tests on that day was an IQ test. The sheet I was handed had all the answers written on it in pencil, so I put my hand up and explained that the answers were on the sheet when the invigilator approached me. The invigilator quietly told me to just carry on. I wonder if I got the place because I was honest rather than the results of the IQ test(I'm not the best with IQ tests).

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                • O obermd

                  Ah, 14 potential future Harvard presidents. :sigh:

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                  GuyThiebaut
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                  ...and a Nobel Laureate or two I believe :laugh:

                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    But they do get what they need sometimes: Teacher's cunning question catches out 14 students cheating in final exam[^] :-D

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    seismofish
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                    Trust the Express to recycle old news :thumbsdown: Professor Catches Cheating Students by Adding a Trick Question to Exam was published in April last year but I'm pretty sure I've seen the story even before then. <°}}}>«<

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                    • A Amarnath S

                      I remember in a Robotics course, two students had used a so-called 3D Rotation Matrix as [1 1 1; 1 1 1; 1 1 1]. When asked by my Prof whether they had copied from each other, the vehemently said No. But when asked how could the use the same erroneous Rotation Matrix, they had to admit one copied from the other. Learning: If you copy from someone, at least make sure the solution is correct. Addendum: A proper 3D Rotation Matrix has to satisfy several properties including the one where the cross product of the first two columns should be the third column, and so on. Further the magnitude of each column should be 1.

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                      I had the same thing marking OU assignments many years ago. I had about 20 papers to mark and at one point thought I'd incorrectly put one in the wrong pile as I was sure I'd seen it before (it had a few unique errors that stood out). I also did my marking in the pub, but that's another story... So, two almost identical papers. After being reported they claimed they didn't know each other, despite sitting beside each other at every tutorial. They were told there were 60 marks available for the joint paper and would they care to let us know how the wished the marks proportioned between them. They stuck to their story and got 30 marks each, along with a final warning.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        But they do get what they need sometimes: Teacher's cunning question catches out 14 students cheating in final exam[^] :-D

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        Oh Reddit is hyperlinked, so can read the original story... NOPE ok, maybe somewhere else links the reference article... NOPE in the comments of 60+ people ... NOPE wtf oh, this reddit post is 4 years old, no wonder they don't want to reference it. there is recycle, and then there is I don't know how to do reporting. unless its a bot article, which when the search on their site for author doesn't work. 🤷 interesting read, as well as the original. [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProRevenge/comments/e8f0z1/not\_my\_revenge\_but\_my\_professor\_against\_cheaters/\](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProRevenge/comments/e8f0z1/not\_my\_revenge\_but\_my\_professor\_against\_cheaters/)

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          But they do get what they need sometimes: Teacher's cunning question catches out 14 students cheating in final exam[^] :-D

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          Jalapeno Bob
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                          Back when I was a college student, I worked for a professor as one of his research assistants. We were tasked with researching material for him to present to his freshman classes. We smelled that there was a lot of cheating going on, so we came up with a solution: The questions and answers were in a file on the computer. We added an algorithm using a random number generator which scrambled the order of the questions. For each exam, :-D :-D we also printed a sheet with the correct order of questions. You should have heard the howls at the frat houses when the students who cheated, which turned out to be more than half of them, got their exams back. :-D :-D :-D

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                          • G GuyThiebaut

                            Reminds me of a big company I joined in my third year at university as part of my sandwhich degree. There was a whole assessment day as part of the application process and one of the tests on that day was an IQ test. The sheet I was handed had all the answers written on it in pencil, so I put my hand up and explained that the answers were on the sheet when the invigilator approached me. The invigilator quietly told me to just carry on. I wonder if I got the place because I was honest rather than the results of the IQ test(I'm not the best with IQ tests).

                            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                            ― Christopher Hitchens

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                            dandy72
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                            GuyThiebaut wrote:

                            sandwhich degree.

                            Where do you work now, Subway? :-)

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                              GuyThiebaut wrote:

                              sandwhich degree.

                              Where do you work now, Subway? :-)

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                              GuyThiebaut
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                              Yes, because I can't even spell "sandwich"!

                              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                                Yes, because I can't even spell "sandwich"!

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                                dandy72
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                                At least you didn't spell it "sandwitch"... :-D

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