win11 dismay: can't have vertical taskbar?!
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
I feel your pain. Of course you want a vertical taskbar, screen height is the most valuable asset of a computer. Only idiots remove features and call it an upgrade. Fortunately there is a third-party solution[^] that I'm happy about. For as long as it continues to work that is.
Luc Pattyn [My Articles] The Windows 11 taskbar is a disgrace; a third-party add-on is needed to reverse the deterioration. I decline such a downgrade.
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
Did the upgrade keep a copy of the old OS around, maybe in case you want to reverse the upgrade? It usually will delete these backup files in a few days automatically.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
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I feel your pain. Of course you want a vertical taskbar, screen height is the most valuable asset of a computer. Only idiots remove features and call it an upgrade. Fortunately there is a third-party solution[^] that I'm happy about. For as long as it continues to work that is.
Luc Pattyn [My Articles] The Windows 11 taskbar is a disgrace; a third-party add-on is needed to reverse the deterioration. I decline such a downgrade.
MS has also caught this disease that Google had for a long time, of removing features and killing products entirely :sigh:
Cheers, Vikram.
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MS has also caught this disease that Google had for a long time, of removing features and killing products entirely :sigh:
Cheers, Vikram.
No no, MS does not remove anything, the morph it or let it slide into oblivion where it's left to confuse all future peoples :)
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Windows does remove windows.old after about 2 weeks. At least for me (W8.1 -> W10 upgrade) it was like that. [Edit] And because I'm suspicious/paranoid(?), I cross checked it. And Windows actually deleted those files ;)
The best part is that Microsoft doesn't tell you this. If after two weeks of dealing with Windows 11 crap, they conveniently delete it. There is a special place in he$$ for some of the decision makers are Microsoft.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
lol, you just catching up. welcome to the choir. i have to go check out that link that was posted.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Did the upgrade keep a copy of the old OS around, maybe in case you want to reverse the upgrade? It usually will delete these backup files in a few days automatically.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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The best part is that Microsoft doesn't tell you this. If after two weeks of dealing with Windows 11 crap, they conveniently delete it. There is a special place in he$$ for some of the decision makers are Microsoft.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Not my expirience. Delete your previous version of Windows - Microsoft Support[^]
technically did not happen to me, MS upgraded my wife's laptop (overnight no less). By the time she told me, the file was gone. I run Professional, she runs Windows 10 Home... so maybe that is it.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
Hey raddevus, When you performed the upgrade, did it offer you the choice between upgrading the current OS or installing Win 11 as a clean install?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
the new coders at microsoft don't know how to do that please forgive them, rest of the people just keep the cloud hosting going...
Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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the new coders at microsoft don't know how to do that please forgive them, rest of the people just keep the cloud hosting going...
Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
I don't blame the programmers at all because they don't call the shots. It's the product managers (and above) who make those decisions which continue to be abysmal. I remember the marketing campaign when W10 was coming out. It was supposed to be the last operating system we would ever need. Right. :rolleyes:
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I don't blame the programmers at all because they don't call the shots. It's the product managers (and above) who make those decisions which continue to be abysmal. I remember the marketing campaign when W10 was coming out. It was supposed to be the last operating system we would ever need. Right. :rolleyes:
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
.... with this AI thing things like taskbar even loose the relevance... soon its like the movie her... since once apple have local ai and intels new chips......
Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
raddevus wrote:
I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop
I'm currently irritated that for the first time ever, I am being forced to retire *perfectly good hardware in order to run a new O/S that I don't really want. :sigh: Unfortunately, I'm still maintaining LOB desktop applications and need to test on that environment. (especially now that one customer is reporting print preview issues that are specific to Win11) < /ms-rant> * 7 y/o laptop (i7 + 16GB) and a 5 y/o desktop (AMD A12-9800 Radeon R7 + 12GB) Hmmm, after writing this I realize that while that hardware doesn't feel old, it really does match my replacement cycle of 5-6 years. Wow, time sure flies! :omg: It doesn't really matter though as yesterday I ordered a new desktop system (AMD Ryzen 5 + 16GB) with lots of room for expansion. It was the most money I've paid for a PC in decades, but it should last for awhile. I found it amusing that not one reviewer discussed performance for work...either developers don't leave reviews, they don't buy 'gaming' rigs, or most consumers are just looking for a pretty toy to play with.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
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raddevus wrote:
I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop
I'm currently irritated that for the first time ever, I am being forced to retire *perfectly good hardware in order to run a new O/S that I don't really want. :sigh: Unfortunately, I'm still maintaining LOB desktop applications and need to test on that environment. (especially now that one customer is reporting print preview issues that are specific to Win11) < /ms-rant> * 7 y/o laptop (i7 + 16GB) and a 5 y/o desktop (AMD A12-9800 Radeon R7 + 12GB) Hmmm, after writing this I realize that while that hardware doesn't feel old, it really does match my replacement cycle of 5-6 years. Wow, time sure flies! :omg: It doesn't really matter though as yesterday I ordered a new desktop system (AMD Ryzen 5 + 16GB) with lots of room for expansion. It was the most money I've paid for a PC in decades, but it should last for awhile. I found it amusing that not one reviewer discussed performance for work...either developers don't leave reviews, they don't buy 'gaming' rigs, or most consumers are just looking for a pretty toy to play with.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
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My pc is my tool to work. Therefore I'm willing to spend every about 5 years to bring up my tool to the latest state of art. To be honest, because I spend on every upgrade more then I need, the upgrade frequency becomes about 8 years.
curious - do you spec and build your own systems? I won't buy Dell, HP, ffs never Asus, etc. If I'm building a desktop, I do it myself. Doing so allows me to be careful with what goes into the box. If it's a laptop, ports, SSD #, and max ram. I work with people who have to live with corporate IT generic laptops. They get to the point where they just give up caring. If their equipment goes down, they still get paid.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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raddevus wrote:
I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop
I'm currently irritated that for the first time ever, I am being forced to retire *perfectly good hardware in order to run a new O/S that I don't really want. :sigh: Unfortunately, I'm still maintaining LOB desktop applications and need to test on that environment. (especially now that one customer is reporting print preview issues that are specific to Win11) < /ms-rant> * 7 y/o laptop (i7 + 16GB) and a 5 y/o desktop (AMD A12-9800 Radeon R7 + 12GB) Hmmm, after writing this I realize that while that hardware doesn't feel old, it really does match my replacement cycle of 5-6 years. Wow, time sure flies! :omg: It doesn't really matter though as yesterday I ordered a new desktop system (AMD Ryzen 5 + 16GB) with lots of room for expansion. It was the most money I've paid for a PC in decades, but it should last for awhile. I found it amusing that not one reviewer discussed performance for work...either developers don't leave reviews, they don't buy 'gaming' rigs, or most consumers are just looking for a pretty toy to play with.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
I'm guessing the old systems didn't support TPM 2.0? I had to switch to the firmware TPM on my system to upgrade.
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Wow, I finally upgraded to win11 on my laptop ( Ryzen 7 4700, 16GB ram) and I've just discovered that you can no longer move the taskbar to the left or right side of the screen (vertical). I've done this for quite some time now because screen widths have increased but you have less vertical space. And, yes, I know I can make it hide itself (really dislike waiting on it to appear). How to set the Windows 11 taskbar vertical?[^] Short answer: You can't Customization is a bad idea if you think about it. People far smarter than me have discovered what is best and I just need to conform. :rolleyes: Also: Disk Space I had 42GB free before upgrading and now I have 22GB free. Wow, is there 20GB of new stuff in win11 -- I guess it's all the pretty colors, right? EDIT Oh, I found 30.9GB of temporary files - 26.9GB from the old system. I'm going to delete them now, because I live dangerously. :) EDIT 2 Why is Win11 showing that I have an update that references a Win10 update? :confused::confused: See snapshot here[^].
After a couple hours of searching and playing with alternatives, I went with StartAllBack. It can do left and right, and it is the only program I found that allows the old folder-interface that allows the easiest access to your programs. It isn't as nice as Start10 was, since the folder interface is below the main part of the window, and must be expanded from root, but at least it is there.
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